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"Super-DMCA" Outlaws Ph.D. Thesis

zenquest writes "SecurityFocus reports in this article that a recently-enacted Michigan law makes the graduate work of Niels Provos illegal. (His honeyd project was discussed here a few months back.) According to the article, "Among other things, residents of the Great Lakes State can no longer knowingly "assemble, develop, manufacture, possess, deliver, offer to deliver, or advertise" any device or software that conceals "the existence or place of origin or destination of any telecommunications service." It's also a crime to provide written instructions on creating such a device or program. Violators face up to four years in prison." Provos has had to move his website and research papers to a server in the Netherlands. Similar bills are under consideration in seven states, and have become law in six others. The EFF has more information about the individual states. So, does this mean that Caller-ID block now illegal, as well?"

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  1. Less than 6 hours by k98sven · · Score: 3, Informative

    ..between reposts now.

    Is someone keeping statistics on this?
    Perhaps we could extrapolate CmdrTaco's repost-delay and figure out approximately when he will lose all near-memory and become like the guy in the film Memento?

  2. Which is more illegal, NAT or DNS? by Limburgher · · Score: 4, Informative
    NAT conceals IP addresses from software, which DNS sets up an obscuring layer betwixt the IP addresses and the user for purposes of convenience. In both cases, the IP address is hidden, though still discoverable using the proper methods.

    Add to this caller ID blocking, and most importantly, Anonymous Cowards.

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  3. Re:Quick Question... by WPIDalamar · · Score: 2, Informative

    That's one of the main complaints about these new laws. Normal things like NAT aren't allowed.

    The proposed MA (massachusetts) one is slightly less worse ... it at least says you have to do it with the intent of performing unauthorized actions.

    Unfortunatly, they don't define unauthorized, so it's assumed your service provider determines what's authorized. Your ISP says no nat.. BAMN you're breaking the law. Someone else's ISP is ok with it, they're not (even tho they're doing the same exact thing).

  4. write your rep & colorado by skydude_20 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Two things to note, first, if you haven't, please write your state senators and reps right now, either to stop the chance of this happening or hoping that in states that its too late, that they might review and amend.
    Second, for all you fellow Coloradans, this is currently in the works (SuperDMCA), I think it's going to pass the senate without issue, so please those of you write your reps and senators and stop this one while we still can.
    Thanks.

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    1. Re:write your rep & colorado by zenquest · · Score: 2, Informative
  5. maryland bill vs michigan bill ? by karavak · · Score: 2, Informative

    According to EFF some states have had S-DMCA since 2000. Am I reading the site wrong and that those dates are not referring to S-DMCA but something else?

    Also, I live and work in Maryland where according to info on EFF, this bill has been in effect since 2001 and I heard nothing about it and it hasn't caused any problems with NAT's, proxies, etc.

    Has it been around for a while and now they are trying to enforce it in some places but not in others?

    I tried to review the michigan and Maryland bills but I'm not a lawyer and my legal speak is pretty bad so I'm wondering what the big difference is.

  6. Re:Why does he think he can just move it? by kinnell · · Score: 2, Informative
    if I live in Michigan (which I don't), would it be illegal for me to view the docs on the web? I mean, once having viewed them, I would have a cached copy on my computer.

    ISTR a while ago, when they were trying to work out how to apply copyrighting of images published on the internet, they decided that a copy in the cache is not legally a copy - it's only a copy when you deliberately save it to your hard drive. Otherwise, there is no way to enforce copyright protection of online images and publish them, short of illegalising caching mechanisms, which would be absurd. So copies in your cache are legally invisible, sort of.

    Disclaimer: IANAL

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  7. Georgia House Bill 867 by wolf- · · Score: 4, Informative

    For those in the State of Georgia interested in putting forth an opposition to this legislature, my office number is 770.719.3852. My email for this will be hsb867@lobosoft.com.

    I just called our four representatives for District 48. One of them has called me back so far, and said that honestly, single phone calls are in no way as efffective as collective opposition.

    So, if you are a small business owner, a computer consultant, or even just an individual who is looking at a felony record if this passes, email me.

    To find out who your representative is Georgia, you can visit Polling Place and Elected Officials finder at the secretary of states website.

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  8. Re:outrageous by AutumnLeaf · · Score: 2, Informative

    Please turn down the volume knob on your rhetoric.

    Kosovo was a NATO action in which the US participated, initiated in response to active ethnic cleansing by the serbs. It is not an apples to apples comparison.

    Iraq was not actively engaged in ethnic cleansing when we initiated action against them, and our "coalition" does not have the sanction of a governing world political organization (unless you consider the US a governing world political organization).

    Clinton did not bring shame to the presidency. He brought shame to himself, and to those who supported him (in our country). In other countries, people wondered what the big deal was. The idea of mistresses is more commonly accepted elsewhere. And she wasn't even a mistriss.

    The presidency is the presidency. It has no shame.

    Clinton missile attacks were also in response to ethnic cleansing (at least military action by Iraq against Kurds.) They amounted to little more than a "shot across the bow." In fact, my research on them makes me think that the target selection was so "weak" that I'm sure Saddam was laughing at the cowardice of the US.

    Let me guess.... you're "still right." That's okay. "You're right dude! You are so right! Damn... you are right again!"

    Feel better now?

    p.s. Most Gulf War II dissenters probably don't actively oppose the Kosovo actions or the Iraq missile strikes because they don't remember the relevant details enough to feel comfortable discussing them... so they waffle.

  9. Then get a different provider by pauljlucas · · Score: 2, Informative
    Sure enough, by the letter of the law, NATs would be illegal. It prohibits owning or creating any technology that is used to knowingly modify a communications sevice in ways unauthorized by the service provider.
    That presupposes that NATs are "unauthorized by the service provider."

    While I have no great love for telcos in general, SBC's (for example) Terms of Service explicitly allow NATs. They even sell "home routers" that allow multiple computers to be connected simultaneously (i.e., a NAT box) on their web site. Heck, SBC even explictly allows servers to be run. The way they exercise control is by limiting upstream bandwidth to 128Kpbs. (You can pay more per month to get the limit raised.) 128Kbps and my static IP is just fine for me to ssh server on to my Linux box.

    It's typically the cable companies that have Draconian TOS because they are used to the model of charging for every TV in the house. (FYI, cable companies are expressly forbidden from doing this in Santa Clara, California by local ordinance.) Used to their model, they want to charge for every computer in your house too.

    No, I don't work for SBC or any subsidiary or affiliate thereof, nor even in the telecommunications industry.

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  10. Re:outrageous by Uberbah · · Score: 1, Informative

    I haven't found a single dissenter who protested the bombing of Kosovo

    As someone else pointed out, that was a UN operation that was finally started over "ethnic cleansing". The only "problem" with the operation is that it was about 5 years too late.

    Clinton's missile attacks on Iraq.

    Missle attacks meant to knock out some of Iraqs military. Or can't you tell the difference between dropping a few cruise missles on suspected sites and handing out oil contracts before you've even finished the unilateral invasion and deposing another counties leader who has never attacked us?

    Clinton despite the shame he brought upon the presidency

    Shame, eh? Lets spend over 100 million dollars picking apart your entire life, and when we can't prove any ciminal wrongdoing, we'll manufacture pergury charges against you by asking irrelevant questions about your sex life until you lie. This will all be justified afterword by your "shameful lying". I mean jesus, somebody lying about their sex life? The world will end!

  11. Herman Go�ring by Blue+Stone · · Score: 3, Informative

    Herman Goëring's testimony at the Neurenberg Trials:

    "Naturally the common people don't want war, but it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship...

    "Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders...

    "All you have to do is tell them that they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."

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  12. just for completeness, are ac posts illegal? V2.1 by wadiwood · · Score: 2, Informative

    This time I remembered the tab key instead of the return key dammit, maybe the filter will save me.

    From an email I received 2 weeks ago

    [* Check out comp.risks digest 22.66 which has a discussion of legislation being considered by Massachusetts, Texas and some others. The start of this discussion was an article by Ed Felten, "Use a Firewall, Go to Jail" Freedom to tinker archives/000336.html

    These laws aim to prohibit any technique used to hide the source of any communication. For example, tunnelling over SSH or using TLS with your email. Even NAT would be illegal because the ultimate source of the IP traffic would not be evident to the recipient nor to any ISP.

    Apparently similar laws have already been passed in Michigan, Virginia, Delaware and Illinois.

    Of course, making something illegal doesn't stop it happening, and if every business which uses a NAT-enabled router was prosecuted you could imagine the outcry.

    *]

    And when I finally learnt to put the url in the search...

    other slashdot links

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    Broad Bills to Protect 'Communications Services'
    On March 28th, 2003 with 550 comments
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    DRM and Threat Analysis
    On March 19th, 2003 with 185 comments
    miladus writes "A timely and concise intervention by Ed Felten on the topic of DRM and the models used (or not used) to represent the threats to defeat. In...
    Section: Main > News


    I wonder if AC posts are legal?

    And at least now I know why my submisson got rejected...

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