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James Cameron's Live Action Battle Angel Alita

Dean Siren writes "Moviehole.net reports that James Cameron wants to direct a live action Battle Angel Alita movie. Cameron says, "The issue is will it be the next film, or will it be the one after the next film? That's really all there is to it at this point. We've done a tremendous amount of design for the film, we're fine-tuning the script, it's just a matter of time." As for the movie itself, "Motorball might find its way more into the second film - I definitely want to do more than one film. I want to create a world and a character that can go through at least one more film, possibly more. And that's not just for the classic financial reasons, it's just that I think there's a possibility for a real mythology here, so I feel that this is a good canvas to do something big that's got more scope." UK Anime and The Z Review are also reporting." I enjoyed the original Battle Angel Alita. It left me feeling like so much more could be done with it. It'll be interesting to see what comes of this one.

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  1. If you liked the movie... by skia · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...you'll love the manga.

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  2. it's book was better... by ChrisTower · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I enjoyed the original Battle Angel Alita. It left me feeling like so much more could be done with it.



    A lot of people felt that way because the two part OVA you saw was only a small part of the story that sprawled across a multivolume manga. If you really liked the movie and want more, definitely check out the manga. As with book to movie translations, the manga is usually better then the anime.

  3. Lessons of History by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After seeing how other animes have been brutally destroyed by the influence of the American entertainment industry, I am a little hesitant. They attempt to gear everything for the "Street Fighter" audience, and Battle Angel Alita deserves better than that... Even subtle things like dubbing takes away from anime... who has heard Rurouni Kenshin on toonami? It sounded like they hired the actors from the original Ninja Turtles. Can we expect more in live action? Or will we get another Tomb Raider?

    1. Re:Lessons of History by alphaseven · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Can we expect more in live action? Or will we get another Tomb Raider?

      Depends on your opinion on James Cameron. Battle Angel Alita has a lot of themes that are very similar to Camerons other work, a tough female lead in the vein of Dark Angel/Aliens/T2, centered around a love story like Titanic/Abyss. And it'll need great special effects. It has such similar themes to Camerons other work I can see him doing a faithful adaptation.

      Akira, on the other hand, I have no idea how they're going to pull off as a live action, so much is tied to it's setting in Neo-Tokyo and the drug use and the confusing ending, I don't see Hollywood doing that faithfully.

      (and hey I mentioned this in October)

    2. Re:Lessons of History by sam_handelman · · Score: 2, Funny
      I agree. James Cameron is a manipulative, commercial whore, just like everyone else in hollywood, but at least he is good at it - the dark adventure of Aliens with the schmaltz of Titanic is a perfect fit for Battle Angel.

      My only worry is bad casting. I challenge you to come up with worse casting:

      The Villain (evil cyborg or mad scientist, it doesn't matter)

      Kenneth Branagh

      Dr. Whasname

      Kevin Costner

      Alita

      Christina Aguilera*

      Alita's Wimpy Boyfriend**

      Leonardo DiCapprio

      Alita's Butch Boyfriend***

      Hayden Christensen

      * Also to provide soundtrack
      ** The first one, who dies in the anime.
      *** The one from the manga with his own secret kung fu.

      And even then, that wouldn't be so bad.... would it?

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    3. Re:Lessons of History by TinWeasle · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hold on, here...
      In making real-life Anime, where is Cameron going to find actors with freakishly large eyes? Marty Feldman is dead, I think.....

      Of course, Digital Domain could CG them in, I suppose....

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  4. Will Jessica Alba be in it? by Xpilot · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'll watch anything with her in it. She is the ultimate in hotness. She was James Cameron's lead actress for his short-lived TV series.

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  5. A dream come true by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a film student and special effects guru-type, I can only say thank god for this. The manga is my favorite series hands-down (how many people can say they've cried at the conclusion of the Ourobouros section, where Alita and Nova face off?), and I've taken 2 years of Japanese mostly to be able to translate the rest of it that wasn't released here (look for Gunnm: Last Order on the net).
    Cameron knows how to use effects well, and has enough of a reputation to command an impressive budget. He's got the kinks worked out, I think, having done the American version already (Dark Angel). With any luck, I can get on the VFX crew for the movie when it gets made...

  6. Not Interested by BadmanX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    He'll Americanize the crap out of it and cast some no-talent pretty girl in the lead (hell, he'll probably stick with Jessica Alba). I cannot imagine him finding a real actress with both the physicality to play Alita AND the childlike innocence that made her so easy to identify with. And then the whole movie will become a warning about how we should take better care of our environment or something.

    If rich American directors and actors find Japanese anime movies they like, I'd rather they fund the creation of a new movie or a remake IN JAPAN than try to "bring it to the American audience", destroying everything that made the anime great in the process.

    1. Re:Not Interested by Paolomania · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I cannot imagine him finding a real actress with both the physicality to play Alita AND the childlike innocence that made her so easy to identify with.

      Thats because in reality having exceptionally powerful physique and being a childlike waif are mutually exclusive.

  7. Oh wonderful... by BJH · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I quote:

    There's a lot of really great things about it, and there's a lot of things - whether the artist really intended them or not - that I read into it, and so I think it'll be a good fusion of what Kashiro created and how I would do things.

    "The manga is very episodic and very discordant - it's not internally consistent, meaning sometimes she looks like one thing and has one set of abilities, and at the whim of Kashiro he'll go off on a whole different tangent. It needs to be fused and focused and given a centralised storyline. But the character will be very, very true to Alita as she is in the manga.


    Sure, it'll be "true" to the original character even though you want to change the storyline, the characterization and the focus. Great, another Americanised bastardization of a work that doesn't need that kind of 'improvement'.
    1. Re:Oh wonderful... by BoneFlower · · Score: 2

      You didn't even mention that many of Alitas changing capabilities were due to different cyborg bodies. Her head was basically all that stayed consistent through her various cyborg bodies.

      As for her personality, she grew up a lot. Coming to terms with who she was in the past, who she was in the present, and who she wanted to be in the future really played with her mind, so of course thats a bit sketchy.

      And I doubt this guy has read the manga, or if he has, he's read it out of order. There is a consistent progression, though Kashiro was seriously ill when he finished it and said that he basically wished he could have done a better job on the ending.

  8. Gunm? by Bonker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Speak not of this Alita... Wherefore art thou, Gally?

    Seriously, 'Alita' has already be pretty seriously corrupted by some of the same forces that mangled Macross into 'Robotech'. If Hollywood touches this, it's only going to stray further and further from the original plot and intent. Worse, it will be given a juvenile treatment and the dystopian story elements will be forgotten in favor of boobs and explosions.

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  9. I'm scared by Galvatron · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Okay, I really enjoyed the Battle Angel Alita (aka Gunnm) manga. I could even believe that they could make a good Hollywood movie out of it. However, I'm not convinced that James Cameron is the right man to direct it. I generally don't like the way he directs female action stars. They always seem like they're trying too hard. Vasquez, in Aliens, I think is the best example I can point to. It's like he doesn't think we'll believe a woman can be bad-ass unless he "proves" it to us. Look at the Terminator movies and the transformation Sarah Conner underwent. Whereas Kyle, the hero of the first movie, could be a soldier fighting a depserate revolution, but still an otherwise normal guy, Sarah Conner was turned into a nutty, ultraviolent caricature for the second movie.

    All that being said, his action movies DO still tend to be pretty good. I just think that Alita has more of a quiet confidence, rather than an in-your-face attitude, than Cameron is really used to dealing with in female action heros. I suppose on the bright side, he can probably reuse some of the costumes from Dark Angel to keep costs down :)

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    1. Re:I'm scared by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Whereas Kyle, the hero of the first movie, could be a soldier fighting a depserate revolution, but still an otherwise normal guy, Sarah Conner was turned into a nutty, ultraviolent caricature for the second movie.

      Eh, Kyle WAS a soldier. Trained to fight, brought up in a world full of Terminators, death, destruction etc.

      Sarah was a waitress. Trained to flip burgers and go out on a Friday night, and suddenly confronted by Arnie complete with shades, lots of guns and a pretty strong desire (absolutely WILL not stop etc) to kill her. Not to mention the whole certain-knowledge-about-the-end-of-the-world deal, and not being able to do a thing about it. I'm not sure how I'd react in her position, but I think a spell in a mental health institute might well be in order. Don't really see this as evidence of major sexism by Mr C.

      I have to agree that Jessica Alba is a major babe though, as well as a much better actress than she's apparently given credit for.

      Babe first and foremost though...

  10. Dark / Battle Angel? by infonography · · Score: 2, Interesting

    It's almost the same type of plot. At least we won't be seeing another crappy hack job by the so-called greats of Hollywood (Spielberg, Lucas, et al). I would not put it past him to use Jessica Alba again. She's is the basic type for the role. I would watch it even if it was an Alan Smithee production

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  11. Compliment or insult? by truenoir · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whenever I see this sort of "translation" going on for anime, I wonder why. I mean, Cameron especially has helmed (and written) some good sci-fi movies (T2, Aliens, The Abyss). Though Battle Angel/Gunm/Battle Angel Alita is probably more doable as a good sci-fi movie than say...Akira (also announced) or Dragonball Z (shudder), why does it have to be redone? It's not particularly old, and it's already a moving picture medium. Book/comic translations are different, since you essentially see the book as one person imagines it. Does having an American director redo a movie in live action somehow honor the original work(s), or rather say that the original is not good enough? I don't think so. We don't see (for instance) anime remakes of Hollywood movies for Japanese audiences. We do see American remakes of foriegn live action films though. Perhaps it's simply that American directors feel it's the only way to get the masses to see and appreciate what they consider outstanding works of fiction. In some cases, I feel it should be left as the audience's loss. There are libraries of books I haven't read, films I haven't seen, anime I haven't watched, etc. Do I need someone to go through and retranslate their favorites to more suite my taste? I don't think so. Could perhaps Cameron use his influence to instead get more anime that he likes (he has a quote on the Ghost in the Shell DVD case too, so I assume he watches it) shown more? For instance, the Cowboy Bebop movie was released not too long ago...great movie, and one that most people could enjoy. Except many didn't even get a chance to, since it didn't get a wide release. He could also helm a "director's choice" type program showcasing anime or foriegn films. After all, how many Joe Sixpacks are going to go look up the other Alita media after seeing the live action version? It's not doing much for the public's opinion of anime, or getting them to watch it, which means there will still be that library of entertainment that they won't even consider. I guess the main point is, does remaking stuff into live action show the opinion that anime is somehow a lesser format for telling a story? Or that Hollywood has a low opinion of the average viewer, figuring they just wouldn't "get it"? (which is probably somewhat accurate...there are many people that lack a certain open-mindedness when it comes to anime or non-American film). With all the great stories that could be told, why choose one that's already been shown? That being said, of course I'm curious to see what he does with it, since it *is* a great story.

  12. Re:All animation is dubbed...deal with it by BJH · · Score: 2, Informative

    One thing first: The word is 'niche'.

    I do speak Japanese, and I don't bother with either subbing or dubbing, but on the few occasions when I've run across dubbed anime, I must say that the voice actors suck large, flaming monkey balls. Really.

    By the way, it might interest you to know that dubs of American movies, including the classics you gave, sound very good in Japanese - they use decent voice actors here. Makes all the difference.

  13. Re:She's ALSO by BJH · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought he was being ironic, considering approximately 46% (by bodyweight) of Britney Spears is not real woman. Ah well, maybe he is just another dumbass.

  14. Cameron interview by torian · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's an interview with James Cameron in today's Sunday Times Culture Section over here in Ireland. Here's a quote about what his next feature will be:

    [He] is prepping his eighth feature film, which he hopes to shoot next year. All he will reveal is that it will be shot in 3-D, with "action and visual effects". He denies it will be a live-action/computer-generated adaptation of the Japanese animé film Battle Angel Alita, thought that's "in the queue", along with numerous other ideas.

    So it looks like Battle Angel Alita won't be his next project after all.

  15. Re:I'd rather see more OVA's... by Peterus7 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Now it's live action Alita, but what happened to live action Akira?

    I still believe that when trying to turn an anime into a live action movie one should work with the utmost respect for the anime itself, and try to keep everything the way it was, without trying to over-americanize it. (by adding unnecessary sex, guns, and explosions... Although the sex part is well covered in a lot of animes.) Otherwise you get something that is... crap.

  16. Re:All animation is dubbed...deal with it by Galvatron · · Score: 2
    Yes, all animation is dubbed, but as you concede, the voice actors for American dubs are not good. And you absolutely can tell if the acting is good even if you don't speak the language.

    There was a webpage I ran across once, which unfortunately I can't find now. The webpage was speaking out against a Swedish (IIRC) dubbing company that brought dubbed some anime into Swedish. He had sound clips posted, and it was obvious that the acting was crap, even though I don't speak Swedish.

    The simple fact of the matter is that the BEST way to appreciate a work is to watch it with the original language. For most of us, this is impractical, so we have to make a tradeoff. Either we have to live with the sacrifice of trying to read something while watching what's going on onscreen, or we have to live with mangled dialogue (to match lipsyncing) and inferior voice actors (even if highly paid, they're rarely chosen by the director of the original, so it's unlikely they'll fit his artistic vision).

    Also, Lawrence of Arabia is not an American movie, it's British.

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