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"Super-DMCA" Bills In Tennessee and Arkansas

David Turner writes "Tomorrow, Tennessee's Senate Judiciary Committee is holding a hearing on two nearly identical DMCA-like bills. These bills threaten personal privacy, anonymity, and security research. SB 213 and HB457 are similar to state laws introduced all over the country by the MPAA. Despite amendments, the bills still threaten digital freedom. Last month, twenty people showed up at the Massachusetts public hearing, and effectively opposed the one MPAA lobbyist. If you attend, speak from notes rather than simply reading a statement (but you may be able to submit written testimony). Please come to Legislative Plaza in Nashville, rooms 12 and 14 at 3:30pm." And Kraken137 writes "The House and Senate of the Arkansas state legislature have passed the MPAA's "Super-DMCA" Bill, and it is now sitting on the Governor's desk awaiting his signature. It's not too late to convince him to veto this bill! Arkansas residents are urged to contact the Governor's office to express their opposition to this violation of rights. The ever-vigilant EFF has a page where residents can send a fax to Governor Huckabee's office to let their voices be heard. Remember, paper and phone calls make more of a difference than emails!"

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  1. Good Luck by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 4, Insightful

    somehow i doubt the governor is going to listen to his constituents when the MPAA i$ breathing down his neck.

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    1. Re:Good Luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      oh great? so we should just give up?

      screw you. at least come up with an alternative.

      meanwhile at least we're doing _something_.

    2. Re:Good Luck by Wateshay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Money buys access, and it buys influence, but unless the governor is corrupt, it doesn't buy decisions. Why shouldn't the governor listen to his consituents? After all, they're the ones who voted him into office and the ones who can vote him out of office the next time. I'm sure the MPAA has powerful and convincing lobbyists, but I doubt the governor of Arkansas owes his entire campaign to donations from the Motion Picture Association of America. That just doesn't make sense.

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    3. Re:Good Luck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      that depends on how many voters show up and breath down the other side!

      Money in politics is used to get votes. if the governer thinks this bill will lose him more votes than the MPAA' $ will gain, then it is in his best political interest to oppose the bill. (unless he campaigned on this or not of course)

    4. Re:Good Luck by Brendan+Byrd · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Voting is a very non-descript way of expressing an opinion, and is therefore the least effective way of compelling a statesman to reconsider a position. The two most effective ways are lawyers and money. You can combine the two by donating to the EFF.

  2. Write your senator by obsid1an · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Time to once again send a fax to my senator. This is really getting to the point of rediculous by the MPAA and the RIAA. People will still be cracking their movies and music and spreading them over systems they cannot touch.

  3. We need some kind of tracking website... by Sanity · · Score: 5, Insightful
    ...for this type of thing. The hearing in question took place at 10am on a Wednesday - how many people don't even find out about these opportunities in time?

    Someone (not me, I have things to do) needs to set up a website tracking this type of event, which allows people to enter their zipcodes and email addresses to be alerted when a lobbying opportunity arises in their area. I would be the first to sign up for Southern California.

    If you feel you are up to the task - email me at ian[@]locut.us and I will do what I can to help, within the time contraints of my other projects.

  4. I live in Arkansas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It will do no good to try to change their minds they
    are to busy lining their pockets. Hucklebarry has cut budgets to about every social service in arkansas other than medicaid and food stamps. He will no doubt get a nice contribution from one of the labels for signing it.

  5. I faxed Huckabee... by mbd1475 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As one of his constituents, I doubt he will listen (a lot of people in Arkansas recognize that he is in office for the wrong reasons), but I would say that's because most government officials will not take time to look at this issue in depth. The MPAA and RIAA can be very loud.

    1. Re:I faxed Huckabee... by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm afraid I still don't quite follow...

      What's to stop the corrupt company in question (read RIAA / MPAA) to simply find a company rep in the proper riding and "decide" to give him a salary of $5 million a year. Perhaps that registered voter might "decide" to contribute $4.9 million to the candidate they wish to buy... er... support.

      I think it would be a little better to simply cap contributions at $20,000 a year per political party or representitave.

      Or just ban it outright - while you're in office, you get your paycheck from the government - anything else gets you jail time.

      N.

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      "Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
  6. I just dont understand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    maybe it's just me but some of these bills seems to be blatantly in violation of the BILL OF RIGHTS. Anyone remember that thing? I'm sure you've heard of it.

    Why is the RIAA allowed to just snoops around just based on suspicion. The police need this thing called a WARRANT. If I went snooping around the RIAA offices because I thought they stole something from me I'd probably be arrested for breaking and entering.

    I can understand when bills get past that may not necessarily be good for anyone but a big company, but these "DMCA" bills are out of control and unconstitutional. Maybe I'm just crazy or global warming has fried my brain and I'm not seeing strait.

    1. Re:I just dont understand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Heard of it. Unfortunately, it doesn't carry much weight in modern judicial circles. Unless, of course, we're talking about the Second Amendment.

      Well, considering that Bush just promised to sign the renewal for the 1994 Clinton rifle and magazine ban (i.e., only government employees are allowed to have certain guns or magazines that hold more than 10 rounds), I think you're giving the gun nuts way too much political clout. And if you're honest, you have to admit that it is a violation of the Bill of Rights, even if you hate guns (the only legal way to restrict such weapons would be a Constitutional amendment).

      And ultimately, that's the problem. Certain rights are seen as only being for "liberals" or "conservatives", and are happily discarded by those who don't care about them. The leftists (and a large number of "law and order" republicans) don't like guns (unless they are government guns, of course), so they're more than happy to violate the Constitution to get rid of them. The right-wingers are more than happy to do the same for certain free-speech and assembly rights (not that the left is much better on these issues, being more than willing to ban certain "hate" speech or ban assemblies when they're protesting abortion). And both are willing to ignore both history and the clear writings of the founders themselves, and insist the rights aren't really what they clearly say they are (i.e., the first amendment only covers "political" speech or the second amendment only covers the national guard, an organization that didn't even exist until over 100 years later).

      So ultimately, all the rights go away because it is possible to create a coalition of the majority who are opposed to some specific abuse of a given right. The problem is the degeneration of our republic into a "democracy" where what was once considered sacred (those rights enshrined in the first 10 amendments) are now considered currency to buy votes in the next election.

  7. Why is everyone surprised about this legislation by 1984 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Don't you remember the Segway? How before it was even available, and before most people had even seen one it was being pronounced legal to ride on the sidewalks of major cities all over the US? How snappy lobbying suddenly made something OK without any real discussion?

  8. Re:Dont Do it!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's right. If you oppose our government now in a time of war, then that means you are for Saddam Hussein. Right now, people are very angry with actors such as Martin Sheen, Susan Sarandon, and Tim Robbins, because they have the gall to disagree with their government in a time of war. They tell them to "STFU, what would an actor know about war and international relations."

    If you dare to disagree with your government in a time of war, you too will be told to "STFU, what would a lousy computer programmer know about copyright law."

    This has been a message from the Department of Homeland Security

  9. Re:It's time to really do something, people... by orthancstone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The sad thing in today's legislative system is that it takes a lobbyist or a lawyer to get your agenda even the least bit of attention. The masses have no real control...all we can do is support organizations that we agree with.

  10. Re:Governor Huckabee by iCEBaLM · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is *not a troll*, he actually said it!

    Talking To Americans

    I mean if the guy is stupid enough to say that, he is stupid enough to sign this bill, so WRITE, PHONE, GO DOWN IN PERSON to this guy and STOP HIM!

  11. What You Can't Do by SmartGamer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The dangers of this are entirely in the disturbing broadness in the definitions, and the "everything not permitted is forbidden" catch. I much prefer the "everything not forbidden is permitted" way of things.

    This would make it illegal for me to use fake referrer IDs (which I sometimes use) on my web browser. This would forbid me to share the DSL connection I share with my father's computer- why would ISPs ever want to allow shared connections? This would forbid me from burning my own music to CD, meaning the music that I myself composed.

    The way it's worded actually outlaws power-line networking! While I don't really see that as a bad thing- people picking up on that will oppose the bill, and I think power-line networking is a Really Bad Idea(TM), it's more devious than that- with the "express consent required," you would have to get written consent from the companies in question whenever you want to plug something in to a wall outlet if power-line networking occurs.

    This is a truly horrid, debilitating law- which I have every intention to flagrantly violate if I get a chance- start a company that specializes in making nothing but those things, use resources that law would forbid...

    The "must get permission" thing is the part that scares me the most.

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  12. These bills are REALLY stupid by sulli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just take a Linksys box, and a copy of Windows XP into the hearing room and tell the dumbasses there assembled that these useful and commonly used devices will be illegal in their state if this moronic bill passes. And that all those High Tech Jobs (TM) that aforementioned dumbasses keep saying they want to attract will move out of state if said moronic restrictions in fact become law.

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  13. Re:EFF page for TN action as well by revscat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    For crying out loud people, leave you homes and SHOW them how many people care.

    Do you really think it will matter? Ok, so a bunch of people show up, and facing a modicum of public opposition they don't act on the bill.

    ...until 9 months from now when people lose interest in it, the lobbyists make their wishes known, and the bill gets tacked on as a rider to some unrelated (but much easier to pass) piece of legislation, signed by the governor, and becomes law. The end.

    I don't think you realize how little control you have over your government. It's all money, all the time. In cases where public interest collides with money, the public interest will lose every single time. And if they can't get it the first time, they'll get it the second.

    Your voice doesn't matter.

  14. It's a shame by The+AtomicPunk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's a shame people hold their entertainment as such an important part of their life that there could never be a successful boycot of the MPAA or RIAA.

    No way would most people skip out on Matrix 2! Can you imagine, not forking over $8 to the MPAA to see a movie?!

    Forget freedom, what's on TV?

  15. This just shows... by Sir_Bill_William_Jen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Bourgeois Class is not interested in the welfare of the Working Class... All they care about is increasing their capital at the expense of others.

    They don't care about us, all they want is our cash. They introduce shit laws as these to get more and more money.

    A few of us try to fight it...

    They try to take our rights away, so stand up and fight!

    Mobilize everyone you know against the DMCA, educate them about it.

  16. Re:Better ways of convincing political figures by JWW · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, eventaully we'll quit buying their stuff. The record companies have already succeeded, and if the MPAA doesn't lay off, I may just have to stop buying DVD's too.

    We are the customer, in the end we hold all the power. True - they may have to beat some of us back with a stick to keep us from buying their product eventually. But right now their primary task is looking around for a bigger stick to beat the customer with. Eventually, we'll just say "ouch" and walk away.

  17. Simlpy restating existing law? by DarkBlackFox · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I present an exerpt from my ISP's AUP:
    (I've renamed the name so as to not incriminate the ISP :-] )

    A) ISP
    ISP is designed for personal and family use within a single household. Customer agrees that only the Customer and co-residents living in the same household will use the Service. The term 'single household' means the Customer's home and includes an apartment, condominium, flat or other residential unit that may be used as a residence in any multiple dwelling unit. Customer may not resell or distribute the Service outside Customer's household. The Service is being provided solely for use in Customer's household and any unauthorized access by a third party to e-mail, Internet access, or any other function of the Service relieves Charter of any affirmative obligations it may have, and is in violation of this Policy.

    Customer may set up one (1) web page per primary e-mail account for personal use using the Service, but Customer may not establish a web page using a server located at Customer's home. Customer will not use, nor allow others to use, Customer's home computer as a web server, FTP server, file server or game server or to run any other server applications. Customer will not use, nor allow others to use, the Service to operate any type of business or commercial enterprise. Customer will not advertise that the Service is available for use by third parties or unauthorized users.

    ISP reserves the right to disconnect or reclassify the Service to a higher grade for failure to comply with any portion of this provision or this Policy. Any violation of these policies may lead to prosecution under state and/or federal law and/or termination of Customer's service.

    3. NO COPYRIGHT OR TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT

    Customer will not use, nor allow others to use, the Service to send or receive any information which infringes the patents, trademarks, copyrights, trade secrets or proprietary rights of any other person or entity. This includes, but is not limited to, digitization of music, movies, photographs or other copyrighted materials or software.

    ISP is registered under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act of 1998 (DMCA). Under the DMCA, copyright owners have the right to notify ISP if they believe that an ISP customer has infringed the copyright owner's work(s). If ISP receives a notice from a copyright owner alleging any Customer has committed copyright infringement, ISP will notify the Customer of the alleged infringement. If ISP receives more than one notice alleging copyright infringement on Customer's part, Customer may be deemed a "repeat copyright infringer." ISP reserves the right to terminate the accounts of repeat copyright infringers.

    Does this mean the RIAA and MPAA are trying to gain even more power than is already allowed under current law? Or is this merely a restating of current law, so as to more actively enforce it?

  18. Re:EFF page for TN action as well by revscat · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why not do away with entertainment purchases for a year to see how much of an impact we can make? Are we too addicted to their drug to do this?

    Because for this to have any effect whatsoever it would have to be done by a significant percentage of the population. How will you be able to spread the word about this boycott? Do you think you could ever get more than a modicum of people to join in? Man, hell no! "Law & Order" is on tonight!

    Think about this: There hasn't been an effective consumer boycotts since the 1980's. Even the religious right has given up on product boycotts. Why do you think that is? And do you think you could fight the backlash of propaganda from the media were this to ever even to show the smallest signs of gaining traction?

  19. Make Note by 4of12 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you read Slashdot, then more than likely you have above average interest and knowledge about computers and technology.

    For political expediency, I'll just identify you as Knowledge Workers of the Third Millenium (rather than karma whores, trolls, etc.)

    If ever in the future you might consider starting your own technology-related business, or already own a technology-related business, then you can start to increase your employee morale, productivity and unfettered creativity by choosing a place to base your business that does not place draconian measures on the free flow of information for the sake of vested special interest groups saying words like "piracy" and "patriotism".

    A trickle of feedback like this to a few chambers of commerce in the right states would do wonders in stemming the tide of such ill-thought legislation. Just about every state in the USA and every locality everywhere wants to become the next Silicon Valley. If you let them know, as the kind of person that makes up what makes Silicon Valley represents, that Tennesse (or wherever) is condemning itself to becoming a repressive backwater by adopting the same kind of legislation that has done so much to help the information economies

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  20. No freedom for the Chinese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So if we can't hide the origin or existence of a communication, does that mean we can't run nodes that the Chinese dissidents use to tunnel through the Great Firewall?

  21. Re:At least this won't stifle innovation. by JDevers · · Score: 4, Insightful

    While I live on the opposite corner, we do happen to have quite a few local tech jobs around here. If one wanted to completely overlook all the secondary players, Wal-Mart alone employees several thousand programmers. Honestly I hate the way people see pictures of southern Arkansas (or for that matter Memphis or Little Rock) and assume the whole damned state is like that. I live in a metro area of roughly 350,000 people with a 2.5% unemployment rate. AARP recently rated Fayetteville as the 5th best town in the country to live in. Our MSA is currently the sixth fastest growing in the country(47% increase in population from 1990-2000). It is also rated the 36th safest metropolitan area in the US. Our airport was one of only a handful that actually INCREASED in traffic after September 11th and continues to increase to this day. I'm not really sure what started this diatribe, but please refrain from taking point statistics and making that information seem to apply to an entire two state region.

  22. Blame it on the "noisy" ex-presidents by TheConfusedOne · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If we could just get Washington, Lincoln, and Jackson to pipe down maybe we could get a word in edgewise. :-}

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  23. Welcome to my world [the War on Drugs] by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Pot smokers in the US understand all too well what is happenning. Get caught with marijuana residue in a ashtray, you go to jail and lose the ability to get student loans (convicted murders and rapists can still get them). Get caught with anything with pot in it (including residue) and get charged with posessing drug paraphernalia (a felony in most states). Roach in your car? Hope the cops don't find it or they'll take you ride. Pot smokers are hunted for sport in the US by LEOs (law enforcement officer) because it's a simple and safe arrest. We've been complaining for over twenty years but things just get worse [for us]. The number one conviction that lands you in a federal prison: simple marijuana posession. The feds are even locking up people who are in full compliance with CA's medical marijuana law (google out "Ed Rosenthal")

    Sad to say your complaints are falling on deaf ears. The politians don't give a rat's ass what you want. Wait until they start locking you guys up for using ssh or squid proxy.

    Again, welcome to my world. Can you pass the soap?

  24. Re:H.R. 107 by Kaz+Riprock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Between the lines: Nowhere in this letter, do I, Melissa Hart, member of the IP Subcommittee, actually take a stand for or against the DMCRA. I will wait until the last possible moment to vote for it and hope that it is swept under the carpet when you are not looking. /waves hand/ This is not the bill you are looking for. PS - Did I mention I'm a member of the IP Subcommittee.

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  25. How to stop this ? by SirGeek · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Get a law on the books that

    1) Prohibits monitary donations to individuals with voting rights (i.e. NO LOBBYS / Corporations / Associations ).

    2) Put a cap on monitary donations to no more than $ 5000.00 total per year to any policitcal campain (Local, Federal, or State). This would force "individuals" to re-think how they donate monies.

    3) ALL donations regardless of the amounts must appear on the donater's tax returns (any amount over the $ 5000 would be taxed at the maximum % as a penalty)

    4) All donations must appear on the polititians "records" and NOT aggrigrated.

    NOTE: Lobbiests could still violage #1 but would be severely limited by #2 and #3.

  26. Re:American stupidity is the stuff of legends. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    In other words : terrorists won.

  27. Re:It's time to really do something, people... by buffer-overflowed · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, it's not worthless. If all of the disaffected people who DIDN'T vote actually went out and voted, we wouldn't be in this mess. Less than half of those eligable voted in the last presidential election... and the majority of the ones that do vote right now happen to be rightist conservative whackos.

    So, go out, vote, get your friends to vote. Look at the records of those you can vote for, if they lied, if they deviated, if they were "bought" they're instantly ineligable. Make a damn party or event out of it.

    Go to colleges, provide literature, research get people out to the polls. Unless you live in Florida, then well, it really might not matter.

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  28. s-DMCA violates Federal HIPAA requirements? by cyberkine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One of the things prohibited by this legislation is concealing the origin or destination of any communication from the communication service provider. This could mean you can't use ssh or a VPN!

    The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act now requires these sorts of technologies when electronically communicating medical information. So will doctors in these states nolonger be able to access patient, hospital or insurance records from off-site?

    It's all a question of priority. Your medical information isn't as important as the latest Britany Spears release.

  29. Correct in fact, wrong in spirit. by An+Onerous+Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The governor doesn't need to be corrupt for a bit of "access and influence" to have a grossly disproportionate influence on the governor's decision. When it comes to complex matters of public policy, no politician has the time or energy to become an expert on even one or two fields, especially after you subtract all the time spent grubbing for contributions.

    Instead, politicians generally have to defer to "experts" on unfamiliar matters like technology policy. So a "suggestion" from an informed-sounding lobbyist, backed by a few thousand dollars of "access," can be quite persuasive.

    It's really time to yank the money out of politics. McCain-Feingold didn't go nearly far enough. If, as proponents of the current system claim, "money is a form of speech," corporate interests are carrying huge friggin' megaphones and shoving the rest of us out of the conversation. And it's depressing to see our elected representative spending several hours a day dialing for dollars rather than studying the legislation they're going to vote on.

    Just a thought: Maybe publically financed elections are the way to go.

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