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The Case for Rebuilding The Internet From Scratch
dotnothing writes "I just caught a column on a security site advocating for a total start from scratch as far as certain internet protocols like SMTP. It's an interesting idea and there are some ideas on how to conduct the transition... if everyone would agree on something like this it would definitely reduce the spam (among other things)."
It's an interesting idea and there are some ideas on how to conduct the transition
./confugure
Dude, it's easy. You just download the source and:
make
make install
Works every time, er... unless you're missing some dependancies... but apparently Gentoo and the BSD portage system fixes the dependancy problem.
"Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
IPv6, replacement for SMTP, Slashdot style moderation on USENET, default encryption on all data transfers, DHCP configures EVERYTHING (like mail server, news server, etc), and more naked women. That would be perfect.
A slashdotter who didn't build his own computer is like a Jedi who didn't build his own lightsaber.
Will they make use of the new 'Evil' IP bit?
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
Alright, we can do this, but this time around I've got dibs on "business.com."
not to tell AOL? Lets just not mention anything to them, and suddently we have two seperate networks...
The old network only consisting of AOlers.
The new network consisting of everyone else.
If this isn't acceptable, could we try just not telling Microsoft?
"If you limited normal users to 100 messages per second and major companies to 10,000 messages a second it would be hard for legitimate users to complain, but spamming would be much harder."
Hm... At a limit of 100 per second that only means I can send out 100x60x60x24 = 8,640,000 e-mails per day. How am I going to be able to talk to all of my friends now?
Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but copyright will always protect me.
This would be a good opportunity for all the new protocol implementations to include use of the "evil bit" we first heard about sometime around the beginning of this month.
Yet rejoice ye not, rather saddend be
for 'tis Windows running, on every damned PC
It seems that while the web was down
MS finished buying off Washing-town.
Sigs are bad for your health.
Answer: Compeletely remake the internet.
Problem: The cost would be prohibitive.
Answer: It'd trigger another tech boom and everyone would have jobs and even dumb people with marginal skills would be paid like chemical engineers.
Problem: The switch over would require eveyone to run parallel systems.
Answer: See above.
Problem: Current security depends more on exclusion than inclusion.
Answer: See above.
Problem: Who are you going to trust to write that security model? A wise collective endorsing open standards, an oligarchy of businesses vying for proprietary standards or the government?
Answer: Oh, the wise collective, for sure.
Problem: But do you honestly believe they'd be allowed to?
Answer: Uh, no ...
Problem: So what do you see?
Answer: A problem.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Yet, studies show that the buses in mexico are several fold more effecient
Have you ever seen a mexican bus?
They have 2x the internal capacity filled up AND people hanging off the sides! All the while running at about 1/5 the spped of light on narrow winding mountain roads...
Its efficient? Its also the scariest thing ever!
You can't take the sky from me...
I've already written my own protocol to replace SMTP. I set up three servers to send mail to each other. They've been busy at it all weekend testing it out. It looks like a great success. There's been no spam at all :-)
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Would we have to start over from scratch with new pr0n, too?
:)
It's been such an arduous journey just to get to this point, I don't think I could handle it a second time.
written in Borland Pascal running in DOS
You have got to be kidding. Who the hell has a DOS box with a TCP/IP stack?
There's only one word for a setup like that: ghetto...
As the Yin would not exist without the Yang, could the Usenet exist without the spam?
Every time I watch the news, I see another story about all the wonderful things NASA is doing in outer space. I know, I know, it's all supposed to be very impressive and exciting. But to be honest, it just boils my blood. I mean, the federal government can put a man on the moon, but it can't build a killer robot police force to hunt down and execute all the spammers? What kind of priorities do we have in this country?
Just the other day, there was a big article on the Security Supersite about how the internet might have to be rebuilt to save our children from pornographic spam. And then I read in USA Today how the government is spending $40 billion on outer-space surveillance satellites. Couldn't they put some of that satellite money to better use by constructing space-based laser cannons in geocentric orbit above all the ISPs to make sure our children are safe?
And for a fraction of what NASA spends on all that Mars rover monkey business, I could have a radio-wave-controlled stun gun that would finally stop anyone I thought might be spamming from ever thinking about looking at me wrong again.
It is painfully obvious that the government has the money and resources to build a high-energy force field around every single American, yet it doesn't. I mean, when I'm chasing after spammers with my stun gun it's darn near impossible to ensure my personal safety. Are a few measly cameras in the corners of the Foodland really going to deter an angry man who looks sort of like Alan Ralsky? What about my laptop? The pictures on my screen saver of little Kevin and Annie are irreplaceable! (I'm only going to be a grandmother once, you know! Unless, of course, the government finally gets on the ball with those cryogenic pods.)
And that Hubble telescope, there's a real beaut. Who needs to know if there's life out in space trillions of light years away, anyway? As long as the spacemen don't start sending me special business deals, making me wonder when they will deposit the gold bars in my savings account like that nice man Chavez from Boca Raton, I don't care who they are! If only NASA had aimed that telescope at Boca Raton instead of Pluto, you can bet I'd know what Chavez had for breakfast this morning.
It's shameful the way the internet has been allowed to degenerate, what with unsecure servers and protocols strewn everywhere. Just thinking about all the millions spent on that Mir station gets me in a dither when I check my e-mail and see donkey porn everywhere, with no donkey-porn-sensitive sunglasses to save my poor eyes.
And it sure would cut down on those ill-mannered spammers who keep on spamming despite the ISP's strict anti-spam terms of service if their computers were destroyed by spam-sensitive cybernetic space bees. I only have time to write so many complaints, you know!
If I can't demand killer robot police, then the least I can expect is a laser-powered servo-motored patrol-bot for my yard. How else will I know if it's a that Ralsky look-alike's lawyer trying to serve me court documents or just a raccoon rustling around out there late at night? I understand that in Sweden, every citizen is guaranteed a patrol-bot. But here in the world's richest nation, we go without! The sheer wastefulness of our government makes me sick!