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Windows Server 2003 Is A Small Step Forward

b17bmbr writes "According to eWeek, 'The release of Windows Server 2003 is a small step forward for the platform -- an effort that really should be considered Windows 2000 Server Second Edition. With the exception of Internet Information Services 6.0, there aren't any far-reaching or fundamental changes in the product.' And from CNet Microsoft prepares Windows Server ads, 'The ads are geared toward IT managers on tight budgets.' This is probably Microsoft's last chance to turn the tide and take mindset and market share from FOSS."

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  1. Oh no! by MisterFancypants · · Score: 5, Funny
    Microsoft's last chance?

    Oh no!

    Things don't sound so good for those poor guys at Microsoft! I better sell my stock!

  2. so we are paying for a service pack? by narkotix · · Score: 5, Funny

    so all that money and time upgrading our reliable nt4/2k systems is only for iis6 and a pop3 service? hmmm glad my organisation is on volume licensing!

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    We played dungeons and dragons for 3 hours.....then i was slain by an elf
    1. Re:so we are paying for a service pack? by I+Am+The+Owl · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, welcome to the existence that Mac users have been suffering through since 10.2. It's the wave of the future!

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      --sdem
    2. Re:so we are paying for a service pack? by fodi · · Score: 1, Funny

      Eeek!! An IT salesperson... RUN!!

      Unless I can get a holiday for buying something from you, that is...

  3. tight bugets... by DanThe1Man · · Score: 1, Funny

    'The ads are geared toward IT managers on tight budgets

    Thats like Hersey trying to advertise in Epopea.

  4. 'The ads are geared toward (IT?) managers on.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    I dont think so.
    It will be:
    'The ads are geared toward (IT?) managers on....
    CRACK

  5. Innovation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Another fine innovation from Microsoft.

  6. Ahhh... upgrades by asdfx · · Score: 5, Funny

    I cannot enumerate the advantages that Windows Me had over 98. I'm sure 2003 will show the same level of advancement over 2000.

  7. Re:IT managers on tight budgets? by The+Kryptonian · · Score: 2, Funny

    Come to think of it, that IS pretty funny. How the hell do they expect to out-cheap "Free"? Once again, they're fulfilling their destinies by being the IT industry's comic relief.

  8. If your an IT manager on a tight budget... by Blacklotuz · · Score: 2, Funny

    LINUX!

  9. super by scot_sd · · Score: 5, Funny

    good thing IIS has proven itself both secure and stable. otherwise, this could really be an issue:

    IIS adds a number of Unix-style playing cards to its hand in this release, including text-file-based configuration, much tighter security defaults, user-level instead of administrator-level privileges, and a kernel-mode HTTP request handler and cache.

    hackers, start your engines...

    1. Re:super by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Another good one was their narrowly thwarted attempt to allow any user process access to raw IP sockets in XP, which would have exponentially increased the difficulty in dealing with DDOS attacks. Even a little forethough on their part on issues like this would go a long way, and it's a sham that they don't use it.

      hahahahhh, grc kiddie

  10. Maybe it's me... by chriso11 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Am I the only one that thought "IT depts are on tight budgets BECAUSE of Microsoft"?

    Ironic....

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  11. One Small Step by Lord+Sauron · · Score: 4, Funny

    One small step for security, one giant leap for MS stocks.

  12. Re:Is Microsoft using Linux? by acoustix · · Score: 2, Funny

    " Doesn't Akamai offer Windows based hosts? Microsoft should insist on their content being on Windows based servers."

    They would be it would be too expensive.

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  13. Ummm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "This is probably Microsoft's last chance to turn the tide and take mindset and market share from FOSS"

    Yep, if this fails, their market share is going to fall from 95% to 94.9%. I hope they have enough money saved up to weather the storm.

  14. will pay off big in SOME environments by djupedal · · Score: 2, Funny

    .....like the finance dept. in MS HQ?

    Wouldn't you also agree that for those looking to move from NT4, that they could also see a big ROI if they moved to OSS instead? If yes, why would you try to sell a MS solution here, without mentioning that?

  15. FOSS is such a sh*tty name by TheRealRamone · · Score: 3, Funny

    What kind of moron chooses the root of the word "fossile" as the name of a movement trying to develop technology?

  16. Re:Not the first time they did that by ColaMan · · Score: 4, Funny

    *cough* wasn't there a fault in win95A (a timer glitch?) that only let it run for 49 days without locking up?

    And it took 2 years for anyone to notice because , lets face it, win95 got rebooted a whole lot more often than that because of all the other bugs.

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    There is a lot of hype here.
  17. Re:Um, no by Tackhead · · Score: 4, Funny
    > I am running Windows Media Services 9 on Windows Server 2003 RC1. It is simply awesome as a streaming media solution. First of all, if the client is a WMP 9 client.... there is no buffering! Instant start (on broadband only, naturally). Plus, you get a ton of configuration options on the WMS9 side. You can insert adverts automatically, apply all sorts of access control on the media (IP based, user/pass login, DRM, whatever you please)

    *blink*

    Advertisements built into music/videos? DRM? Locked to IP or user/pass combinations?

    You're either astroturfing for Microsoft, or are using some definition of the word "awesome" of which I was previously unaware.

  18. Re:ms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Uh oh, don't say it's dead. It might give Windows the immortal powers of BSD.

  19. Re:IIS Text Configuration Files by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "powerful IIS administration components"???

    Or do you really mean complex, proprietary tools requiresd by a proprietary configuration database -- whereas a text file or two would have sufficed *quite* nicely?

    [The combination of Apache *and* Tomcat is easier to automatically configure than IIS!]

  20. Re:FOSS? by jsse · · Score: 5, Funny

    In fact, it's also a short form of "GNU/Free as in beer, Open Source avocated by EFF and FSF, Software", aka "GNU/FAIBOSABEAFS"

    *rimshot*

  21. Re:IIS Text Configuration Files by CerebusUS · · Score: 2, Funny

    IIS 6 really is a big deal for Windows... IIS 5 is a steaming pile of crap compared to Apache, but IIS 6 seems really promising. I'll hold out my opinion until I actually use it though... but it can't get much worse than IIS 5.

    Sure it can! IIS4 :-)

    As an admin, what's the most noticable improvement from IIS4 to IIS5?

    you can sort the list of websites. What the hell were they thinking?

  22. What does this mean for .NET? by Thaidog · · Score: 2, Funny

    A year ago it was call .NET server... there was .NET this... .NET that... these .NETs in your mouth... lalala... well I downloaded a 45MB patch for my win2k box then a service pak for it... and I still don't have even the faintest idea WTF .NET or what Windows Server 2003 means to it... obviously not a whole lot given the description... can somebody please define .NET and just what the hell Windows Server 2003 does for it?

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  23. Re:Oh no! troll? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    This is a troll? How is being opinionated about something based on factual experience a troll? /. is so fuckk of fuckers and fucker moderators is laughable.

    This is just another example of spineless crap moderation here on /.

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    So, you busy little plebian proletariats, get busy, you have some censoring to do! FUN! Do the bidding of your fat, undisciplined masters who never subject themselves to peer review!

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    Get busy moderating this down, you little pack of obedient prefects of the corrupt state! You are the vanguards of purity, and dissent is not allowed!
  24. Episode V by vastabo · · Score: 2, Funny

    The Empire Strikes Back.... It is a dark time for the Rebellion. Although the Death OS has been discredited, Imperial microserfs have driven the Rebel forces from their hidden base and pursued them across the mindshare. Evading the dreaded Imperial Software, a group of freedom fighters led by IBM has established a new secret base on the remote ice world of Canada. The evil lord Darth Gates, obsessed with finding young FOSS(?), has dispatched thousands of Windows OSes into the far reaches of IT... (Aplogies to Canada)

  25. Re:Try Hacking my windows 2003 Server by crisco · · Score: 2, Funny

    Mmm, beer and chainsaws. Great Combination! I'll be there to watch.

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    Bleh!

  26. Re:FOSS? by Jugalator · · Score: 3, Funny

    They should just call it BS for "Beer Software" to attract attention. :-)

    But then people would say stuff like "Red Hat is BS" which might be slightly confusing.

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  27. Re:Oh no! troll? by GnarlyNome · · Score: 1, Funny

    You know a nice cup of hot tea(de-caf) and a Valium would do wonders for your outlook on life

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