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Anonymous Online Diaries With Invisiblog

An anonymous reader writes "The Cypherpunks have finally caught on to the blog phenomenon: enter Invisiblog. This blog system allows users to register accounts and update their weblogs using Len Sassaman's Mixmaster anonymous remailer program. Now you can post all those tales of late-night dumpster diving, without fear of being branded a terrorist!"

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  1. Interesting... by AdamTrace · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... or just a cool place to post those secrets you've been dying to shout out to the world.

  2. that's great...but by wattersa · · Score: 5, Insightful

    isn't the whole point of a blog to give the world a small peek at what you're doing? If it's anonymous, there's nothing to stop someone from posting absolute fiction. I might as well just write short stories and post them on usenet...

    1. Re:that's great...but by NeeNee3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree with you. I think that most people want a blog so that they can talk about themselves. Perhaps they use a pseudonym, but after time, I've noticed that most people start revealing more and more information about who they are and where they are, etc. So, a completely anonymous blog seems rather pointless.

    2. Re:that's great...but by forand · · Score: 4, Insightful

      what exactly do you think a blog does? Unless you know the poster to ANY blog in person and know that what they are writting is the truth there is no way to know that they are not submitting fiction. Simply putting a name next to a post doesn't mean it is truth.

  3. Dealer blog? by lpret · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think this could turn out to be a very interesting project. Think of the people who can now share their story -- Chinese dissidents, drug dealers, hitmen, etc. Society will definitely gain from this.

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    1. Re:Dealer blog? by SuperBanana · · Score: 3, Insightful
      I think this could turn out to be a very interesting project. Think of the people who can now share their story -- Chinese dissidents, drug dealers, hitmen, etc. Society will definitely gain from this.

      Not really, because we won't be able to tell what's actually true and what isn't, so you pretty much have to throw the baby out with the bathwater, because you can't tell the difference; it might as well all have a giant "FICTION" stamp on it. Even the non-anonymous weblogs can be complete BS, this is worse.

      There are practical matters here- think about it. How's a "Chinese dissident" going to prove he's really a Chinese dissident, without exposing his identity in the process? Hell, half the time people are caught because they reveal information or details only they(or a select group) knew.

    2. Re:Dealer blog? by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Even the non-anonymous weblogs can be complete BS, this is worse.


      Sure... but many things can be independently verified. And of course, certain anonymous weblogs may build up a reputation for truthfulness, which is a useful heuristic.


      Of course, this sort of thing is also a great way to post ransom notes, etc... not that I'm saying it's a bad idea because of that, I'm just noting a fact.

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  4. Excuse me, I speak Jive by Em+Emalb · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Perhaps I can be of some assistance.

    Here's a novel thought in this day and age.

    Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't write about things that would get you in trouble.

    I understand the desire to invisibly post, but everything you do can (and someday probably will be) traceable back to you. Remember that and the golden rule and you'll be set.

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    1. Re:Excuse me, I speak Jive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't write about things that would get you in trouble.

      Yeah, 'cause freedom of speech is overrated.

    2. Re:Excuse me, I speak Jive by maxpublic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't write about things that would get you in trouble.

      And this was called 'insightful'? Many of the "things that would get you into trouble", in this country and others, are simply those things that the powers that be don't want you telling the world. But I suppose if you're just another alpha-male-worshipping ass-kissing moron, then advice like this is just the thing to make the world a good and right place to live in.

      Forget things like exposing political corruption or corporate wrongdoing - you shouldn't be even thinking about such things, much less discussing them with your fellow human beings! Why, if we all bowed down before our political and corporate masters and acted like the proper slaves we were meant to be then we'd all be much, much happier! And should ever a disloyal thought cross your mind, just ignore it and turn on the TV until it goes away....

      'Insightful', my ass.

      Max

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    3. Re:Excuse me, I speak Jive by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Lame.

      You are not free to shout fire in a crowded theater.

      "Freedom" of anything has severe limits. Though you may be "Free" to say anything anywhere any time, you had also better be prepared of the consequences. Anyone that thinks they can cause panic and death in a theater and not be held liable for it might as well just excuse themselves from society all togeather.

      Say good-bye now...

  5. Secret Plot by rkz · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It would be funny if this was set up by the gestapo to catch criminals. obviously not your standard doughnut eating gestapo but maybe the NSA or something

  6. Slashdot to the rescue by nacs · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I guess the good thing about the invisblog site being slashdotted offline is that they'll learn from their mistake have better servers next time around a 13 year old doesn't like what someone said on their site and decides to DDoS it.

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  7. So what??? by exhilaration · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Just as Slashdot removed posts that those friendly scientologists, a court order would easily force these guys to remove "offensive" material - if they're in the U.S.

    Providing anonymity is only half the battle, you have to base yourself someplace that U.S. law reach to.

  8. Why this isn't stupid by GeoGreg · · Score: 5, Insightful

    There's already a couple of posts to the effect of "don't post anything on the net that you don't want traced back to you." But, that's not an argument against having anonymous publishing forums. Security agencies want to eliminate anonymity as a route to engaging in criminal activity or, more ominously, as a route to expressing dissent. In some countries, the suppression of dissent is explicit. In others, it's implicit. If these countries allow access to the Mixmaster remailer, and individuals use tools to which security agents don't have access, then "nym" weblogs could be a way of publishing information that governments (and other organizations) wish to suppress. The worst they could say is "you sent an encrypted email to someone" (which is bad enough in some places).

    Saying "it's pointless to hide your tracks, so don't even try" is giving in to those who wish to be able to track down every dissenter, and I'm not sure we should do that quite yet.

    1. Re:Why this isn't stupid by frostman · · Score: 2, Insightful

      In countries with something approximating due process, it could be good.

      Of course there are places where sending that encrypted mail would be worse than voicing dissent, since by sending the encrypted mail you have shown both a desire and an *ability* to circumvent the government.

      In many totalitarian states, appearing to be subversive is more dangerous than speaking openly (though that can be mighty dangerous too).

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  9. History by pyrrho · · Score: 2, Insightful

    While your advice is sound... thank god people don't follow it... much of history would be lost.

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  10. new way to googlebomb by blastedtokyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    With google buying that blog company recently and the recent posts about how "the second superpower" term was coined, anonymous blogging will probably die because of all the usual scum--spammers who abuse trackbacks, googlebombers trying to raise their relevancy ratings, and then the RIAA citing every hyperlink on the anonymous postings that points to an MP3 file.

  11. Dire Implications by serutan · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Well, I can see the Homeland Security boys freaking over this one. Anonymous blogs are sure to be a hotbed of terrorist steganography.

    "Your Honor, we need a court order to seize their network logs for the last 6 months, and a gag order so they can't warn their potentially unlawful users." [insert rubber stamp sound]

  12. Because Freenet is self-defeating by schlach · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Right now there are two groups that use Freenet: the cautiously-paranoid and the rightfully-paranoid. The cautiously-paranoid is the group that (with good reason) fears the intrusion of not only government censorship but increasingly corporate censorship, as the line between Corp and State thins... The CP posts content that is unlikely to get them in much hot water if posted to the 'net, but that makes them feel better about supporting a system that will one day (supposedly) protect us from a surveillance-state gone mad.

    The rightfully-paranoid are those that use Freenet to post content that is so heinous and illegal (i'm thinking kiddie porn here) that no one would ever host them, and leaving any non-cryptographically-secure trail, no matter how obfuscated, that leads back to them is an invitation for law enforcement to track their asses down and lock them up for a long time. In other words, they use Freenet because, for all the inefficiency and general-lousiness of Freenet as a distribution system, the expected value is still better than getting their ass in stir.

    That's pretty much the problem. There's nothing to attract most users, who might appreciate anonymity but would much rather have pseudo-anonymity (which is more just the appearance of anonymity), and have content that might actually be read by someone. The only thing a new user is likely to find on Freenet was posted by tinfoil-hats or child pornographers. This is not likely to endear them to the system (unless they're into that sort of thing).

    My argument is that, after the initial fascination with the power (read: geek-coolness factor) of the anonymity of the system wears off, most non-clinical tinfoil-hats would rather have their content read by someone, and will find a new distribution system. The only people who won't make that choice are people who can't afford to make that choice. I expect that will eventually leave the FreeNet as the network of kiddie porn, with a few ultra-paranoids hiding among them.

    I'm not sure what the legal standing of Freenet will be if/when it will be used mostly for the dispersal of obscene material, but it will certainly be an easy target in the Ashkroft justice system... and if your intent is to preserve a means of communication when the State outlaws badthinkspeak, you're never going to be able to organize on something as inefficient as Freenet.