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New PF on FreeBSD snapshot available
Dan writes "Pyun YongHyeon and Max Laier announce a new release of PF for FreeBSD, which is available for download. Since the first release of PF at the end of March 2003, PF has undergone several major updates such as -current and ALTQ support. They have also removed bugs in IPv6, module handling and table support code and believe the current version 0.61 is very close to production use."
Not three days in a row.
This would be HUGE.
I could finally consider myself a man.
Unless I don't hit submit fast enough...
Apple have come up with some innovative products, but their market share remains tiny. Sadly, though, many buyers have been mislead by the marketing and eye-candy, and desperately try to justify their overpriced purchases to themselves on forums around the Net. Let's see what they really mean...
"MacOS X is everything Linux wants to be."
"Despite the fact that Linux is just code and can't WANT to be anything, I truly believe that it'd love to be a single-vendor, single-platform, sluggish half-proprietary OS with dwindling market share. Linux would love to throw away its impressively growing corporate takeup for that."
"Apple hardware is for real computer lovers."
"It's no hassle to use a plethora of keyboard combos to make up for the patronising one-button mouse. Despite the fact that my hands have FIVE fingers, and multiple-buttons make Web browsing so much more pleasant, I prefer my computer to be treat me like a special-needs child."
"Aqua makes me so much more productive!"
"My non-techie friends drool over the transparency and scaling effects, even though UI research has shown that they add practically nothing to getting real work done. It feels like KDE 2 on a Pentium 200, and I can't change to a light and fast WM, but those drop-shadows must make me work so quickly!"
"OSX shows that Apple is committed to open source."
"OpenDarwin.org and its community of about 27 is surely not just a token gesture by Apple. Pretty much nobody uses pure Darwin, and all the crucial components of the system are closed and require me to spend money just to get major OS updates, but they're really helping the community somehow."
"You get what you pay for with Apple hardware."
"My iBook was made by in Taiwan by AlphaTop and has design and build quality flaws (needing foam sheets jammed in to stop the common problem of the keyboard scratching the screen). But it's silvery and cost far more than an x86 laptop of better spec, so it must be much higher quality!"
"...blah blah MHz myth blah..."
"Although there's truth in PPC being more elegant than x86, it's crushing that the top-of-the-range 1.5 GHz chip is slaughtered by the equivalent 3 GHz Pentium 4. However, Steve Jobs showed some vague Photoshop filter benchmarks at the last MacWorld, so I'm convinced."
we will add your geekness to our own. Well at least ScootK and kc will, since they '0wn' webchat of org. I guess you could say they are the 'queens'
I'm going to sue for slander. I AM ROOT HEAR ME FART.
What is PF? The eniter announcement refers only to PF, and doesn't give any info about the goals, purpose, or full name of PF.
Just like Linux, ipfwadm, then ipchains and iptables. Now FreeBSD ipfw, ipfilter now pf. This is by the way in addition to cisco IOS that you have to keep in mind which is similar but not the same.
Hope noone comes up with NEW features later that demands new architectures.
"Give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you." -Nim Chimpsky
It might be helpful to provide rudimentary information like this in the slashdot articles.
When you post a story like this, say "pf (a packet filter package)" or something like that. Otherwise people have to click a half dozen times just to find out if they're interested in the story!
No shit. Screw me for not knowing what PF is, but it's just common sense to provide some length of explaination of your subject. I'm scared to click on any of the links for fear that the posted text is just a copy/paste from another source.
Futile, really, to see this complaint come up so many times and realise that the editors really don't give a shit, or at least don't care to offer a rebutle. I realize it's not the most professional approach to post stories relating to how badly they post stories. But I'm guessing their image isn't helped by all of these legitimized complaints. How much longer can they take themselves seriously?
The same can be stated in financial terms. Yes, as "editors" you're all mostly very lame (except that last book review was excellent!), but I do still come here on a semi-daily basis to dig through the threads. However, Moz/Phirebird/foo are set to block images from this server. Our university proxy has even been set to do the same. I'm even starting to get a bad taste in my mouth for people who advertise here.
The biggest trolls here are the editors.
I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it.
No, no, no! "pf" is 'fudge packer' backwards...
FreeBSD, up to now, has had two different firewalling methods. First off, there is the natively developed ipfw tool, which recently got a renovation and is now ipfw2 in -CURRENT. The alternative to ipfw is Darren Reed's ipfilter, also known as just ipf. Both ipfw and ipfilter share similar capabilities, and it is generally user preference as to which one is used in FreeBSD.
Now, it seems somebody has made the effort to port yet another firewalling mechanism to FreeBSD, this time pf. The features it claims to have over ipfw are:
Presumably, some of these are rather desirable features. However, it is beyond me why FreeBSD needs yet another way to do firewalling when the interfaces and systems we have now already work well. It is my opinion that instead of porting something proprietary to OpenBSD like pf, time should have been spent either patching these features into ipfilter or ipfw to add functionality to an already accepted and loved firewalling mechanism. There is no reason FreeBSD needs to dig a deeper firewalling grave for itself like OpenBSD has done.
Beware, Nugget is watching... See?
every post in this thread (except this one) explains what it is
/. whiners ;)
who needs google when we've got
There are places where the networks are not touching,and there are places where they are-Boeing's Lori Gunter
Are you sure it's not "pudge facker"?
Gee, I knew there was a reason I should have taken Prescience 101. Then I could read Slashdot posts before they're written!!
One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.
Fact: *BSD is dying
PF means more choice and its not like it takes that much more space in the distribution
Also means I will have to port my "ROQ" script to it as well so people can easily set it up on FreeBSD 5.1 go to http://www.roq.com/bsd/ and you will see what I mean
EVERYONE ALWAYS RIPS OFF OPENBASD, NEVER GIVING ANYTHING BACK. I BET IF THEO NU WHAT A BUNCH OF CRAZED THEIVES YOU OSS FUCKS WERE WHEN HE STARTED, HE"D HAVE CHOSEN TO BECOME A WATCHMAKER INSTEAD!!!
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From an9420@anon.penet.fi Sat Oct 9 13:37:06 EET 1993
this was an anonymous post, i dont even remember where i found it. it will, however, be expanded on whenever i find the time for it. in the mean time, thanks to Theoderich and too all of you, have fun.
decayed kisses,
the pink and purple
tinsel fairy of love
and necrophilia
NECROPHILIA
by Theoderich
I: Introduction
Very few text files have been written regarding the sexual tendencies and practices of necrophiliacs. While most people would prefer to believe that we do not exist we most certainly do as is obvious to anyone who visits a cemetery during our nightly rampages.
Necrophiliacs prefer to go about their business alone; sharing is not a part of this alternative lifestyle as the corpse usually wears out fairly quickly. This is not to say that the occasional orgy involving four or five necrophiliacs and about a dozen or so corpses does not occur, but it is very rare. In this file I will describe common (and some uncommon) techniques which necrophiliacs use to gain satisfaction from their stiff partners. Hopefully these vivid descriptions will encourage you to go out to your local cemetery and to join our ranks!
II: Finding a partner
Finding a partner for your necrophiliac activities is definitely the hardest part. You not only have to gain access to the corpse but you also have to find one which suits your tastes. Granted, some
necrophiliacs would screw roadkill if given the chance but most of us are more discriminating. Your chances depend upon where you pick up your date. If you have access to a morgue it would definitely be your best bet as the corpses there are usually the freshest and have not yet been treated for burial. They may be a bit chilly because they've been lying in the meat locker for days but that really shouldn't make a big difference to the determined necrophiliac. Cemeteries are a bit harder to deal with as finding a screwable corpse is harder to do.However, if you know how to interpret signs this shouldn't be a problem.
If a grave consists of a mound of fresh dirt and is covered with flowers,chances are that the stiff hasn't been laying here for too long. Rotting flowers on the mound usually hint to the state of the corpse as well.
Some people are exclusively into 'porking the bone', i.e. sex with skeletons. In this case you can dig up almost any grave and hope that the inhabitant hasn't yet disintegrated into dust. Try to scope out a fairly secluded cemetery for your passions unless you like a sense of danger to go along with the sex. Having anyone catch you in the act is NOT fun, and if you're picked up by a cop chances are that you won't be able to screw anything but Bubba behind bars for the next few decades.
People are generally not understanding of the necrophiliac lifestyle, so it will probably be a long time before we can come out of the closet.
III: Preparation
Depending upon where you are at this point you'll have either a little or a lot of work to do. The person in the morgue will obviously have to do little more than to open the locker, pull the corpse out and bang away. If you're one of the cemetery people you'll have more work to do. An experienced necrophiliac is always equipped with the bare essentials: a shovel, vaseline and a box of rubbers. Why the shovel is needed should be obvious, but if the ground is hard then you might need more equipment to dig up your date. Vaseline is used to loosen the corpse up a bit. This makes it less likely for a body part to break off while
you're having fun and it also prevents your mantool from becoming too irritated while screwing the dried out pussy. The BOX of condoms is used to play it safe; no necrophiliac should be without it. You never know which STDs your partner had during his/her lifetime, and believe me, it doesn't get any better after the person dies. You can put on more than one rubber for extra protection if it is warranted, but screwing a corpse without