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Do Neutrinos Have Mass?

amyjigglypuff writes "MINOS, a joint project between Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory and the University of Minnesota, is going to attempt to uncover the mysteries of the neutrino. Scientists plan to study the mass of neutrinos, whether they are stable or oscillate, and their electromagnetic structure. If they are found to have mass, it could prove that neutrinos are responsible for the cosmic "dark matter" that has baffled scientists for decades. Here is a link for scientists and a summary for the general public."

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  1. Wha? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Yes, Neutrinos have mass. This is old news dude.

  2. WIMPs win by etherlad · · Score: 3, Informative

    Neutrinos, I believe, count as WIMPs (Weakly Interacting Massive Particles), the current prime candidate for just what makes up dark matter.

    The other theory is that of MACHOs (Massive Compact Halo Objects) - large chunks of presumably baryonic material in a large halo orbiting the Milky Way.

    The two theories are not exclusive, mind.

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    1. Re:WIMPs win by Peter+T+Ermit · · Score: 4, Informative
      Neutrinos are weakly interacting and they've got mass, but they're not a real candidate for exotic dark matter. (There are two types of dark matter: baryonic, which is about 4% of the "stuff" in the universe and exotic, which is about 23% of the stuff. [The remainder is dark energy.])

      Because of oscillation measurements of neutrinos, of CMB fluctuations, and of galaxy clusters, scientists have concluded that neutrinos make up only about 0.5% of the stuff in the universe. This is as much matter as is in the visible stars and galaxies, but it's not enough to account for exotic dark matter.

      (MACHOs are thought to be baryonic dark matter.)

  3. Some may have mass, and others may not... by kenthorvath · · Score: 4, Informative

    I attended a seminar where one group was attempting to measure neutrino oscillations and found convincing evidence that this happens. In order for neutrinos to oscillate, however, they would have to have some mass. In the model that they proposed, some neutrinos may have mass and some may not. Also, if super symmetry comes into play, you could potentially have some very heavy neutrinos. For some cutting edge theories consult the archives.

  4. Re:Wha? -- Becomes Hruh? by barakn · · Score: 4, Informative

    The three neutrinos are each associated with a lepton (electron, tau, muon). The electron neutrino indeed has no charge. Electron neutrinos are typically emitted in beta+ decays or electron captues, both events involving a nucleus swallowing or spitting out an electron.

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  5. The LEP results suggested mass by mnmn · · Score: 3, Informative


    I remember at 117 Gev we had some higgs boson marks, but the results were just beneath the standard deviation. Now we have to wait till 2004 or 2005 till the commecement of the LHC to be sure.

    But the LEP results were close, and many scientists and nonscientists like myself are convinced we have it in that range. At least some neutrinos do have mass.

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  6. old stuff by g4dget · · Score: 2, Informative
    Check your older Slashdot science stories. Experiments have already shown that neutrinos oscillate, and that means that they have mass (or we really have to change physics). Also, see here.

    However, neutrinos are not sufficient to account for dark matter, and dark matter itself is not sufficient to account for the observed deviations of the shapes of galaxies from what is expected.

  7. More on neutrino experiments... by apirkle · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've actually been working as an undergrad assistant in a lab at UT Austin that is very active in the MINOS consortium, so it's pretty cool to see the experiment getting some attention.

    There are some neat photos of the detector; the steel scintillator modules weigh about 5,000 tons (!), and you can see one as it is lifted into place. The detector uses something like 2000 16 channel photomultiplier tubes (I don't remember the exact number of tubes) to detect the showers of particles that are created as neutrinos interact with the steel scintillator plates, and the data from those tubes is processed to reconstruct events. Did I mention that the whole thing is in a cavern about 1/2 mile underground to reduce background noise from cosmic rays?

    The detector is supposed to come online and start collecting real data in 2004.

    Another very interesting neutrino experiment is SNO, the Sudbury Neutrino Observatory, which is in an underground mine in Canada. SNO resolved the solar neutrino problem; people previously couldn't explain why we weren't seeing the right number of neutrinos coming from the sun - it turns out that they "oscillate" and change into other types of neutrinos, and SNO verified this. The neutrino oscillations also imply that they have a non-zero mass (explanation beyond the scope of this comment ;)

    The point of MINOS is to observe neutrinos from a controlled high-energy accelerator beam, rather than whatever we get from the sun, to very accurately measure the oscillations.

  8. Re:What's really neat about neutrinos by Christopher+Thomas · · Score: 3, Informative

    It really gets cool in supernovae, because as much as 40% of a supernova's energy is in the form of neutrinos. I believe that this can be detected in theory, but I don't remember if it ever has been.

    They have been.

    The neutrino burst from Supernova 1987A was detected and found to coincide with the optical burst to within an hour (an hour before the optical burst, IIRC). This provided a direct demonstration that high-energy neutrinos travel at or extremely close to the speed of light, which in turn placed an upper limit on their mass (a very small value, but neutrino masses measured to date have been very small).

    Another neat thing is that there may be a 4th neutrino that does not interact via the weak force. Imagine that!

    No such neutrino exists, as far as anyone can tell. Neutrinos, leptons, and quarks are grouped into families. The first familiy - the up and down quarks, the electron, and the electron neutrino - are what normal matter is made of (or produces in nuclear reactions, in the case of the neutrino). The other two families contain much more massive particles, and so are only seen in exotic situations (high-energy collisions, and possibly as "strange matter" in neutron stars). The existence of higher-energy quark/lepton families has a measurable effect on lower-energy reactions (as the high energy flavours show up as virtual particles). All measurements to date indicate that there are only three families - the expected effects of higher families have not been seen.

    Perhaps your source was confusing neutrino families with supersymmetric particles, which are strongly hinted to exist and which may qualify as weakly-interacting heavy particle candidates. None that I've heard of would have the properties you describe, however.