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EFF's Cindy Cohn Talks About Patriot Act II
digidave writes "Techfocus.org has an interview with EFF's Legal Director Cindy Cohn, where she talks about the Domestic Security Enhancement Act, or 'Patriot Act II'. She talks about what the act is, how it might infringe on your freedoms, where it does right and how ordinary people can make a difference."
One day we are going to wake up, and wish we were living in Singapore. Slowly we are losing all of the freedoms and rights that make great innovations possible. The Dark Ages are coming ... great thinkers and great innovators cannot function in a society of fear.
Bush, the closest thing to fascist we've ever had.
Just remember what it was like 3 years ago: Economy was good, we had jobs, the President was brokering peace between Israel and Palestine, and our biggest worry was that the President had consentual sex with his adult intern. Oh my.
Today: Economy is crashing, > 6% unemployment
rate is common in urban areas across the country, we're in a questionable and bloody war for oil, the same people who bolstered Saddam into power are in control today, Israel and Palestine aren't even on the map, the Bush administration is silencing political critics, and the government wants to investigate your private life to make sure you are not a terrorist, headed by Big Brother himself.
So much has been lost in just 3 years.
Who will monitor the monitors?
Who will liberate the liberators?
Patriotism is an act that people take in loyalty to their government. For example, joining the National Guard is a patriotic act. Dictionary.com gives the definition for patriotism as:
Patriotism is an attitude of the individual to the country. Patriotism does not come from the government to the people.
The fact that some many things are coming out of the current administration with the label "patriot" is extremely disconcerting. The consistent redefinition of terms is the hallmark of dictatorship.
Regardless of the merits of the act, the fact that it is mislabeled is cause for concern.
The same is true with the mislabeling of 9/11 as "Patriot Day". The day had nothing to do with American patriotism. The people who died in the terrorist bombing were not acting patriotically. They were being acted on.
Just looking at the definition...the closest thing we have to patriotism on 9/11 is that the fanatics who took over the airplanes held the belief that they were killing Americans for their country and for Islam. Ignoring our own feelings and looking at the words we see that the terrorists killing Americans is closer to the true definition of the word "patriot" than the non action of the victims.
Misusing terms is always a grave cause for concern.
I am not dissing true patriotism. We owe our freedom to people who took the patriotic step to defend freedom. In fact, I would say the misusing of the term is an affront to the true patriot. It dillutes the sacrafices made by American patriots.
I can't help but begin this post with a cynical remark (sorry, but I've had a bad week...) You don't need masses for a job that one man can do... Lee Harvey Oswald thought he was a patriot, too. And the man who murdered Pim Fortyn (a right-wing populist politician from Netherlands; I don't support that kind of politicians, by the way) said he did it for the sake of the country...
Now, what I really wanted to say was, that Josef Goebbels would be proud of the Bush administration's rhetorics. I mean, calling a law that just invites people to be unpatriotic "The Patriot Act"... Another thing that's just impressive was how in the news today, someone from the Pentagon or US government talked about how the Iraqis may have destroyed all their weapons of mass destruction before the war had begun, and he made it sound as if it had been something unspeakable and unheard of ("how dare they?" was the message)...
Please think about it a bit before modding me down. Then my karma at least served some purpose.
Hell is not other people; it is yourself. - Ludwig Wittgenstein
What will become of the USA if we allow the Patriot Act to continue suppressing our freedoms? Think "China" or "Chinese society". The Chinese in Singapore regularly ban "The Economist", a reputable journal. The Chinese will throw you into prison for holding a peaceful demonstration against the government.
Note that the Patriot Act curtails the Freedom of Information Act. What happens when government prevents its own citizens from knowing the activities of the government? Think "Chinese government". The Chinese in Beijing covered up the lethal illness called "Sudden Accute Respiratory Syndrome", and this coverup engendered the proliferation of the SARS epidemic to all corners of the globe. Read "China and SARS". Indeed, the majority of Chinese believe that "maintaining social order [is] more important than democracy". This "maintaining social order" means "restricting freedom of speech, press, and assembly". Read "Poll: Hong Kong residents optimistic".
Both Singapore and the USA are modern societies in terms of technology. Yet, most people prefer to live in the USA, not Singapore, because of the openness and freedom in American society. What distinguishes us Americans from the Chinese is our willingness to support freedom of thought and speech and to support openness in our own government. Otherwise, the USA will degenerate into a nation like Singapore or, worse, China.
Read more here.
If you live in the US, please think about how your government tramples on every idea of freedom, peace and democracy and then adds insult to injury by trying to convince you that, indeed you enjoy the freedom to say and do whatever you want.
A democratic regime would never have its president utter the words "with us or against us".
Mother is the best bet and don't let Satan draw you too fast.
Now, 20 years later, I probably would not have done the same were I in those shoes again. Such acts like the Patriot Act, detainings of people -- many times US Citizens themselves -- on the basis of race, under no basis for charge, new onerous immigration restrictions that make even getting a tourist visa about as easy as winning the lottery if one is unlucky enough to be from a country that's not western European, and other such hypocritical erosions of the consitution have turned me off.
Japan is not perfect, mind you. Its people still have a air of racial superiority about them left from their imperialist warmongering days, and discrimination in employment and all aspects of society is too often blatant for me and other people with too dark of a skin color. But even they don't think of us as criminals without a cause, which is what the US is doing. And I feel free to go about my work without fear that the police may be scrutinizing my every move, trying to "prove" my association with terrorist groups.
In short, I fear that Bush and Rumsfeld have done irreparable damage to the United States' image as a bastion of democracy and freedom in the world. Prior to the crackdowns on people in the US under the veil of 9/11, the erosion of the Consitution, and the invasion of Iraq, the United States held both the military power and the moral authority to enforce its opinions, a right it earned through decades of generally magnanimous acts in support of these causes around the world. Today, all this work has been laid to waste because of the shortsighted policies of George Bush and his advisors. The world views the United States, rightly so in my opinion, as hypocrites. It will take a long time (and most likely a new administration) to change that view for the better.
-- Samir Gupta, Ph. D. Head, New Technology Research Group, Nintendo Co. Ltd., Kyoto, Japan.
Which is exactly why the Second Amendment is critical. It allows We The People to enforce the First Amendment, and the rest as well.
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What you do today will cost you a day of your life
If there's no regime change in November 2004, I'm going to put my plans in action for leaving the country. There are better places to live, and if you're young enough and skilled/educated, you can jump through their immigration hoops and get a passport. You know, like what a whole lot of Germans did in the 30s.
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I'm not flaming you, but I do have a suggestion or two.
First, voting is the *last* thing (literally) you should do to make changes in your political leadership. Voting is the final judgement, but getting involved in the political process is the first thing we should be doing.
I'm not talking about protests or sit-ins or organized campaigns. I'm talking about getting personally involved the EASY way. Call your state, Congressional and Senate reps and make an appointment to talk about 1 issue (this isn't an all-you-can-eat buffet) with the Rep's staffer. Follow up with a brief thank you note and a reminder of what was discussed. Follow up every two weeks with a phone call, and follow up with scheduled meetings as you feel is needed. Rinse and repeat, make it a habit like checking your e-mail.
This isn't rocket science. The methods, tools and customs of political involvement are really old. If you have the intelligence to filter Slashdot comments, you're smart enough to make a political difference.
The only variable here is your commitment to follow through. The EFF can't do it alone.
Peace,
Chuck