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VPR Matrix 200A5 Reviewed

An anonymous reader writes "The hard to find VPR Matrix 200A5 laptop has been reviewed. Never heard of it? It's a laptop that's designed by F.A. Porsche and sold exclusively by...Best Buy! It seems there is starting to be a rather large following of the VPR line of laptops, but that they are getting tougher to find at Best Buy (not sure if they are discontinuing or if they are selling out stock before releasing a new version.)"

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  1. In case you're wondering by Lxy · · Score: 4, Informative

    Slashdot had the story when these things were announced here. And no, it's not a dupe, this is a review.

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  2. Is BestBuy still selling vprMatrix? by BonrHanzon · · Score: 5, Informative

    I read somewhere that WorstBuy is dropping the whole vprMatrix line. Probably explains why I was able to get the 17" LCD monitor for $300 after rebate. I've been trying to buy another LCD for the past two months and can't find them. In fact, the store doesn't seem to have much vprMatrix stuff at all.

  3. They're not so hot because they're so hot. by ejaytee · · Score: 4, Informative


    These look nice and have nice spec/feature sheets, but have had some trouble with reliability. The Best Buy computer guy told me that genuine failure returns are running around 10%. They run _very_ hot, even for a laptop, to the point where I think it would be uncomfortable to have it on your lap for an extended period of time.

  4. great product, bad support by carambola5 · · Score: 5, Informative
    I got the 185A5 a few months back and immediately wiped the hard drive in favor of a real operating system. When I called tech support to ask what type of sound card the model had (their website has nothing), the conversation was something to the effect of:

    Tech support: "Uh, lemme check on that."
    [4 minutes later]
    TS: "Let's see, I believe it's a Soundblaster Live!"
    Me: "Ok... do you know which model of Soundblaster Live!? Is it the 5.1 or gamers edition or..."
    TS: "It doesn't say. Sorry."

    Then after 8 hours of hair pulling and cursing, it turns out it has an ALi chipset. Not Soundblaster Live! Oh, but that's not all folks. A few days later, I call asking for motherboard info.

    Me: "Hi. What type of motherboard is in my 185A5?"
    TS: "I really don't know. Did you check the website?"
    Me: "Yes, your website has nothing of substance on this machine. I called you guys a while back and you told me the wrong sound card. Is there any chance you could find out what type of motherboard, or even chipset, is in this thing?"
    TS: "I'm sorry, we don't have that kind of information here. Only the factory could tell you that.
    Me: "Ok... can you connect me to the factory?"
    TS: "We don't have their number."
    Me: "Is there any way you could get their number and just ask them about the motherboard?"
    TS: "No, not really."
    Me: "So no one there knows anything technically specific about the product you sell."
    TS: "I'm sorry sir."

    Frustrating. Really frustrating. The machine itself is quite nice though. Beautiful widescreen, fast RAM, and very stylish. If there is this supposed following of vprMatrix users, I wonder if they would be of better use than tech support.
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    1. Re:great product, bad support by Zak3056 · · Score: 4, Informative

      When I called tech support to ask what type of sound card the model had

      [snip]

      Then after 8 hours of hair pulling and cursing, it turns out it has an ALi chipset. Not Soundblaster Live!

      By "Real Operating System" I'm assuming you mean something other than windows, and since this is slashdot, I'm going to assume you mean Linux.

      If that's the case, /proc is your friend.

      "cat /proc/pci" or "cat /proc/bus/pci/devices" would have gone a long way to avoiding your encounter with the tech support drone.

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  5. Re:Linux Support? by jbolden · · Score: 4, Informative
  6. not the same Porsche company by Darth+Maul · · Score: 4, Informative

    Dr.Ing.h.c.F.Porsche AG is the German car manufacturer that has been designing and producing sports cars for over 55 years. link.

    Porsche Design is a different company that does all sorts of design work, from radios to sunglasses to pens. It was split off of the car company back in the 80's, I believe.

    So, Porsche Design really didn't design the 911 (the body of the car was designed by Ferdinand "Butzi" Porsche (Ferry's son) while the engine was designed by Ferdinand Piech (Dr. Porsche's nephew) in 1963).

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  7. Other FA Porsche designs to die for... by WIAKywbfatw · · Score: 4, Informative

    Don't laugh, but their kettle, toaster, coffee maker and citrus press are all worthy of drooling over too.

    Oh, and so is the Data Bank, a FireWire external hard disk drive that they designed for LaCie, that's styled to look like a silver ingot.

    I'd link directly to their kitchen accessories but their flash-based site is annoying. If you're interested in viewing them, look at them here, courtesy of Amazon.co.uk.

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  8. Get the facts straight by pfankus · · Score: 5, Informative

    F.A. Porsche (the guys who designed the 911 and some Samsung LCD monitors)

    Actually, no. If you read the previous posting you would discover that this is Porsche Designs GmbH, *not* the same as the car company, nor the designers of the 911. These folks started out in 1972 (when was the 911 first on the market?) and design everything from LCDs to kitchen sinks to scooters. But sorry, no 911.

    And by reading into their website a little further, they have 12-14 employees. Makes you wonder why this laptop is so shoddy...

  9. VPR Laptops by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I currently work for BB, as the lead tech at a best buy in the northern Chicago area (i'm actually typeing this while on the clock). At the moment, and from what i've been told, yes, the current line of VPR laptops are being closed out. We have carried them since before christmas, if i recall, and it the 200a5 was reviewed in Maximum PC mag. They keep saying that they are comeing out with a new line, which i hope they do, but i haven't seen nor heard anything.

    It's too bad, becasue they are some REALLY nice laptops, arguably the best we carry. I haven't seen nor felt any heat issues, nor had any reliability issues with them (Sony, in my experiance, is the worst of the bunch in that catagory). I've worked with them extensivly, and i can't report any high heat issues. My only complaint was that the Northbridge, made by Ali, has absolutly horrid preformance, and in testing scored around half the memory bandwith of other comparable laptops. Also, the graphics chipset is only 32mb.

    BTW, the price that a lot of places are quoteing at, and the price on the VPR website, is way off. When we still actually had an active stock, they were selling for $1600 after rebates, and when we were trying to clear them out, they went for $1350 after rebates. Good luck finding them now, though. If you can, the 180b5 was also great, pretty much the exact same thing as the 200a5, only with a 1.8 GHz proc and a 30gb hard drive, vs. the 200a5's 2GHz and 40gb.

    I'm not too sure what is going on with the whole VPR thing though. I hope they are continued, they were wildy sucessful, our stores could almost never keep them in stock, desktops or laptops. We are getting a new high-end desktop in, as of 4-29-03. To my knowlage, it's the 9150, a 3GHz P4 with dual 120gb hard drives in RAID 0, and a GF4 Ti4200. So they VPRs arn't dead, i hope they are continued, but i don't know. It is nice, though, to actually carrey a quality computer, insted of selling e-machines and compaqs all day. I don't know why they would be closed out, they were wildly profitable, and customers and employees both love them.

  10. Personal thoughts... by boola-boola · · Score: 5, Informative
    Well, the link is down (thank you Slashdot), so I figure I'd go ahead and give some of my personal opinions on it, since I bought one about two months ago... Overall, I'm mostly satisfied with it. I've got GNU/Debian running on it perfectly (other than the damn Battery Charge Monitor, ugh). And at the time, I thought the cost was very nice ($2000 with a $300 mail in rebate). They had the rebate because yes, they ARE discontinuing the product (I doubt you can find one in stores now) so they can review the line to see if they want to put out more laptops from vpr Matrix. It runs fast and smooth, and with great hardware and Linux support, I shouldn't complain. I also like how you can disable Speedstep in the BIOS, although since I am unfamiliar with modern laptops, that might be a common option. Finally, I have to admit, it is _VERY_ stylish for an x86 laptop (my original plan was to get a TiBook, and I regret not doing so), and for the most part, I guess it's lighter than most other laptops with similar features.

    HOWEVER, there are _quite_ a few issues with it. For one, the damn built-in NIC doesn't work 99% of the time. I have resorted to using my external PCMCIA NIC (or wireless, when it is available). Seems pretty bad to me, but mine could just be defective (or I could have just fsck'd it up testing out all those Linux drivers, heh). Also, the keyboard is VERY fragile, ugh. Keys pop off all the time -- there are 4 posts, one in each corner under every key... the bottom 2 hinge onto the board and the top two snap on... those top two break very easily. What I find questionable is the fact that Best Buy salesmen were trying to tell me the keyboard is very fragile and really used that to try to get me to buy the warranty (I didn't, but I might go back to get it, ugh). Also... (and I should've done my research on this ahead of time) it uses an Ali chipset, which I'm _not_ very fond of. Getting apm working properly is a B*TCH. (I haven't succeeded thus far)

    Overall, I made a decision, and I'm stuck with it, so I guess I better be happy with the vpr Matrix 200A5. Since hindsight is 20/20, looking back, I should have waited, for pretty much all other laptop manufacturers have put out better stuff out there (though not as light or stylish) for considerably cheaper since I bought it. My original plan was to buy the 15" PowerBook, which I didn't for various reasons, so I bought the 200A5 instead. I regret it. I would've boughten the 17" PowerBook, but cost is an issue for me. My suggestion to other people? Stay away from it (if you can even find one), and get either a PowerBook instead, or if you like x86, get a Toshiba or a Compaq/HQ or whatnot. There are some very nice laptops out on the market with better hardware specs and cheaper prices. Just my $.02.