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Mementos as Document Retrieval Keys

Dekaner writes "The BBC is running a story that BT has demonstrated a scanner that can be used to retrieve digital documents by associating them with a physical object. When the digital files are stored on the server, they are associated with a scanned image of the object, for example a seashell. Later, when the user wants to retrieve the files, the memento is again placed on the scanner. The resulting image is used as the retrieval key."

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  1. The bane of the photocopier... by Winterblink · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can see a lot of people using their asses as the "memento"...

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    1. Re:The bane of the photocopier... by quantaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      Just make sure it isn't somethnig you'll have to call up in the middle of a presentation, could take a lot of explaining...

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  2. Ah, modern tech! by orangesquid · · Score: 5, Funny

    Turning the paperless office into a huge junk bin!

    "Mike, do you have the financial data for 2002?"

    "Somewhere. Help me look for the squeaky red clown nose."

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  3. Mmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...Mentos. The Freshmaker.

  4. I am thinking by einhverfr · · Score: 3, Funny

    Was the Marketing Plan associated with one of these seashells or one of these pebbles? Or maybe it was my coffee cup?

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  5. Patents... by silentbozo · · Score: 3, Funny

    If they try to patent this idea, I'm citing Johnny Mnemonic as prior art!!!

    1. Re:Patents... by quantaman · · Score: 4, Funny

      If they try to patent this idea, I'm citing Johnny Mnemonic as prior art!!!

      Hmmm, not sure if I'd call that art.

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  6. Keys by cybermace5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Guess you could have actual keys for database access. Then you can put all the keys on a keyring...

    This is more stupid than anything else I've heard this week.

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  7. This is just too easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please put penis on scanner to locate pr0n

  8. well by kingofnopants · · Score: 5, Funny

    If ten years ago someone told me that in the year 2003 i would be using a seashell to retrieve data i would tell that person that he is fscking stupid.

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  9. My question is why? by MyNameIsFred · · Score: 5, Insightful
    To me this sounds like many of the other poorly concieved ideas for indexing files. Much like meta-data fields that require me to fill out extra fields that can be searched later. The vast majority of people don't fill the fields in. And where required, they typically use bogus data.

    This situation seems much the same. Most of the files I save on a computer are NOT associated with some object I have lying around the house. For example, everytime I write a letter to Mom, I'm suppose to scan her picture? Why not just save it in a folder called, "Letters to Mom." Its easier, quicker, and I don't have to find Mom's picture. Similarly at work, most of my files are associated with some email telling me to do work on some project. Do I scan the email? Seems kind of pointless.

    In my view, like metadata, this suggestion adds steps that the vast majority of users won't do.

  10. Doh.. by NanoGator · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... Uh dear.. well.. uh I need you to sit on the scanner... Please, don't ask.

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  11. Johnny Mneumonic by rice_burners_suck · · Score: 4, Insightful
    This is just like Johnny Mneumonic. Every day, with the bullshit being pulled by the RIAA, MPAA, Microsoft and other predatory multinational multibillion dollar organizations seeking nothing more than eternal perpetually increasing profits, the world gets closer to the reality portrayed in that movie. That was the subject of Johnny Mneumonic; in that case, it was a pharmaceuticals company that let people stay sick even though they had a cure because it meant more profits for them.

    But that's NOT why I associate this with Johnny Mneumonic. I associate it because in the beginning of the movie, they're going to store 80 gigs of information (about as much as I have in /usr/home/) in Just Johnny's head. They use three random images from the television to associate with and encrypt the information. These images are then faxed to the recipient. Obviously the bits aren't being used because they would change in faxing. A more associative method is used, kind of like a human memory. I think that with time, more technologies like this will be used as our computational needs advance; That is, unless these multibillion dollar corporations have their way and our computers become merely vessels for receiving garbage information (valuable intellectual property) like the stupid movies and music being made nowadays, while "real" computers will be labeled as "professional equipment" and will cost five hundred times as much as they should so that only the corporations can afford them to keep us under control.

    In the world of the future, it will be corporations, not governments, that will oppress the people. The governments will only serve as a tool to those corporations. Capitalism is fine; I just think that one change needs to be made: The individuals should have a much louder "voice" in government issues than corporations. In fact, the "voice" of any party should be inversely proportional to its size and power. The RIAA should not have enough voice to mail a letter to a senator, let alone do the evils that they are doing.

  12. Dear Leonard by Letter · · Score: 5, Funny
    Dear Leonard,

    Use the Memento pattern when

    • a snapshot of an object's state must be saved so that it can be restored to that state later.
    • a direct interface to obtaining the state would expose implementation details and break the object's encapsulation.

    Sincerely,
    Letter
  13. old idea by g4dget · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Using images of physical tokens to access documents is a really old idea. Of course, that won't stop BT from filing a patent.

  14. Demolition Man... by da3dAlus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "I went to retrieve the files, but in their place were these damn 3 seashells..."

    "Hahahah...he doesn't know what the 3 seashells are for!"

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  15. Let's see now by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny

    When I lose an important memento, I don't have to worry because I kept all the serial number and insurance info in a file which... DAMN!

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  16. My Brain Already Does This by weston · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It's really pretty neat. I can pickup old ticket stubs and remember things about concerts that I'd forgotten for years. An old T-shirt can bring back a memory of going shopping at Target with my sister while an old girlfriend was out of town. I've got a tie another old girlfriend gave me that brings back visiting her in the hospital. I could go on, but the really cool thing, is that I've figured out how to retrieve some of this information using abstract representations of things -- drawings or pictures -- or even sometimes simply writing some words about them. I don't have to keep the mementos around any more.

    I'm thinking of maybe implementing a computer system for this, where I type in some small "key" representation, and get back some further "data" associated with it....

    Kind of wish I could clean out and delete a few things from the brain system, tho'...

  17. Just what is a Type 2 security error again? by LostCluster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a sure fire recipe for data loss of critical data. All the server backups you can make would become worthless if the seashell/encryption key falls into the hands of a three year old with crayon or is lost/ruined in any other way.

    It's a nice novelty for encrypting your digital little black book, but it's not going to be useful at all for business databases.

  18. Humane technology by asreal · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This is one of those inventions that makes technology easier a bit more fun and a lot more personal. It doesn't make sense for every day use - you wouldn't want to use it to store office documents or your taxes - but imagine the sentimental possibilities. Associating a ring that belonged to your mother with pictures of her and a slideshow, or the seashell in question with video and music from your romantic beach vacation.

    So before you go off saying how complicated and pointless a system like this would be, remember that it won't just be geeks using it. But of course, it could make a very interesting password system in the right hands...

  19. For my documents, I will use a printed sheet... by Blaede · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...of the file as my memento. To make the association more secure, each page will have it's own memento, consisting of the page printed out. That way when I need to retrieve the file on the computer to print out, all I have to do is scan each page, open the file, and print.

    This technology has promise.

  20. I think it's a good idea by TwinBeam · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Those of you being snide need to think again.

    To you it sounds pointless and silly and wastefully kludgy. The same sort of snide remarks were made about graphical displays and color monitors and mice. Such attitudes overlooked that people LIKED working with computers that had those features.

    The proposal is not a data retrieval system - it's a memory retrieval system. And it isn't oriented to bringing up that memo you wrote last week - it's to bring back your images of your wedding or vacation of 20 years ago. And just a data point - my wife think's it's a cool idea. So maybe this is one of those things that women will understand and want more than men. (You know - women - those odd creatures that press flowers, save invitations from weddings, make shadow boxes, save children's teeth, etc? A digital memory box may very well be a highly desirable consumer product.)