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RoboCup 2003
Kylose Boondoggler writes "Sony AIBOs play soccer against each other in the American Open 2003, hosted by Carnegie Mellon University in preparation for RoboCup '03. Teams from all over North and South America (including teams from Georgia Tech, Cornell, and UPenn) will compete in various leagues from soccer-playing AIBO to pure computer simulations. Local newspaper coverage is provided by The Tartan. Honda's ASIMO will also make an appearance along with rescue robots constructed by Carnegie Mellon."
This seems like it would be a pretty fun event to watch. I have had some experience with robotics helping out with high-school students. In my area there is what we call *CCRA.
* County Compettive Robbotics Association; The students (as teams) got kits of motors, electronics, pnuematics (etc.) to mess around with, and in the end create a working bot to use in a competition!
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BTW: watching robots play soccer is really, really boring, but coding them to play sounds kind of interesting. Is there any software out there similar to ASM-Robots that lets you do something like that?
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interesting concept, hefty price tag!
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Does this mean that they'll all go around sniffing each-other's butts?
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Driving a car in an unlimited and mostly uncontrolled environment is a much more complex task than navigating a robot (or team of -) in a more or less controlled and certainly a limited environment. However, a lot of research that is done in the robotsoccer field (computer vision, anticipating to unexpected situations), may be very useful to realize autonomous vehicle guidance in the (probably not very near) future.
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Since dogs traditionally chase mailmen, I think this would be more fitting.
Just replace the people who deliver mail with the people who spam us with e-mail, and you have a smash hit!
You'd need to give Aibo some teeth though, and I've got some old and rusty Exacto-knife blades that would fit the bill perfectly.
Is this truly the only Earth I can live on?
If Cornell wins this maybe they'll finally start to get some positive coverage in the news after their last few fuckups, unless they send congratulation emails out to the losers... but i digress...
And I wondered where the Rat Things in Snow Crash came from.
There are a bunch of videos here, they appear to be of varying sizes...though the first one I started downloading is still going strong and just passed the 42 meg mark...actually, right as I was writing this it stopped, so it is 43 megs...so the videos are big and long (hopefully). Enjoy.
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there are some great papers on this site that might be of interest
http://www.ri.cmu.edu/projects/project_160.html
Read the article. It's a robot soccer tournament, not the new Robocop movie.
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Alan alda has a great show about aibo soccer in his scientific frontier show.
Okay, it can't compete with Aibos for cute (or irony), but there is a much more exciting way to go: FIRST high school robotics (http://www.usfirst.org/), an international competition for high school robotics teams.
These are 130 lb robots with between one and two horsepower, running both autonomously and with radio control, and playing a two against two timed game. The teams have six weeks in Jan. & Feb. to design, build, program, test and ship their robots. They start with a kit of parts (motors, robot controller, misc. hardware) and build their robots for a game which changes every year.
There are 800 teams in the US, Canada, the UK and Brazil and 23 regional competitions, plus the championship event which was held in the Reliant Stadium in Houston last month. We used the Astrodome for our pits!
As a mentor and parent of two team members (http://www.cybersonics.org/), I can tell you this is a blast! I encourage everyone to take a look at it and think about getting involved. Most teams are always looking for mentors and new teams are starting every year.
robot soccer is seriously something that influences my career decisions. it's just so damn cool.
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If there are any AI Uni Lecturers among the slashdot readership, take my advice as a former student and do something like this for your students as an assignment - it will be one of the best they ever do. The server software and API documentation is free to download, and players may be implemented in amy language you want.
How about a slashdot effort for next years cup?
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For those interested, I'm on the CMU Simulation league team, and I have about 30 photos from the American Open:
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And as an update to the original post, the American Open concluded about an hour ago, with the CMU AIBO team winning the finals in competition against Cornell.
I watched this last year. It was being broadcast when some company (forgot which) was testing thier streaming technology.
I was surprised by how entertaining it was.
The AI for little robot dogs do all kinds of things.
When they score a goal the do a little dance, and when there other teammates see them doing a little dance they start dancing. LOL it was pretty funny.
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That is exactly what they are attempting here.
"The challenge is to build an autonomous vehicle which can 'navigate on its own over a 250-mile desert course in less than 10 hours.' from L.A. to Vegas, 'without external communication or human control.'"
Whenever the offence inspires less horror than the punishment, the rigour of penal law is obliged to give way...
...for the last year students at the IT-engineering program, and have had so for a couple of years now.
Pretty pictures of their two robots:
http://www.robocup.it.uu.se/
Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even if you take into account Hofstadter's Law
Yep, and CMU is doing that too:
Red Whittaker has entered in the DARPA challenge
We're working on it full time. Making good progress, too.
Well, it's interesting to see that this is starting to pick up in the US as well. Last year we (we = project team from Uppsala University, Sweden) competed in the RoboCup 2002, which was being held in Japan at the same time as the 'normal' soccer world cup. It was an extremely interesting experience and the exhibition floor and competitions were on the floor of a huge indoor baseball arena (maximum capacity: 50 000). During three days of competition about 100,000 people showed up.
:-) ). Teams who compete in this league obviously don't have to construct the hardware which might be nice for all the software guys out there. In most other leagues you build the robots from standard off-the-shelf components.
It's a shame you don't have what I consider the most interesting leagues though - the middle size and the humanoid league. Those are the ones that require most work and has least competitors, so it might be hard to get a full league I suppose. Middle size robots have everything onboard and have to do everything by themselves. There are quite a few teams in Europe and Japan, coming from universities but also some companies (Philips, dutch home electronics company, had a good middle size team last year.)
Further, FYI, Aibo robots are programmed by the team, so the kind of tricks and cool stuff they do depends on who programmed them (and how much time they had...
There is also a German Open which is being held in Paderborn, Germany, sometime soon. Further, the world championships, the real RoboCup 2003, is being held in Padua, Italy in the summer. This is from the top of my head, I don't have any URL:s, but I'm sure they can be found with a quick search.
FYI Cornell doesn't compete in the AIBO league.
Cornell does compete in the F180 small size league. The real test will be in Padua Italy in early July. As a reminder, Robocup 2003 is the real competition.
Seeing that CMU didn't place in the top four at Fukuoka last year, while Cornell took the title, congratulations to CMU. And good luck in Italy.
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The entire contest seems kind of boring, as it is supposed to use robots built by someone else.
Eurobot is a contest for completely autonomous robots that are constructed for the contest.
The rules can be found at www.anstj.org.
The basic idea is to find and flip 12 twocoloured pucs, so that the color you fight for is up. Two robots compete for 1.5 minutes, and the pucs are placed on the board after the robots.
This year 32 teams from Europe and Asia are competing. My teams homepage is here, but in Norwegian, to not give away too much to our competitors.
He'd be pretty good probably. He can kick really good and you can't really knock him down. Too bad he's a little slow.
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Now there are even more soccer teams that can kill mine (we haven't won in two years)
And what's worse we'd be losing to a few thousand dollar pieces of plastic and metal that are at the most 10 inches tall
I think robotic sports competitions are a great idea. It helps younger generations get interested in technology, and definately spawns some creative innovations. I watched a special on TechTV recently ... http://www.techtv.com/news/shownotes/story/0,24195 ,3425334,00.html
one thing that surprised me was the segment on Asimo. They commented that there are multiple engineers controlling Asimo while he is on stage. With all of the money and research Honda has put into this robot, why does it still require mutliple humans to control it?
For the HS crowd, there's Botball, which had it's DC area competition this weekend at UMCP, sponsored by the K.I.S.S. Institute for Practical Robotics. KIPR also puts together neat kits if you're looking for something to play with (a word of advice, Interactive-C blows and it's type checking system is flakey at best).
There's also Trinity Colleges's Autonomous Robotics Firefighting Contest which has a league for just about anybody. Qualifying alone is an impressive feat.
Also, if you're interested in the simulation league, you may be interested in checking out this paper which was written by one of the profs in my department.
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sorry about the link Here it is.
I agree, (I take you're referring to UTS? I study IT there), the University is very proud of its achievements in the league, yet there's no mention on /. or the site referred to.
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You'd be talking about UNSW in the Sony Legged League, except that they won only two years (2000,2001), and CMU is actually the defending champion (though admittedly only by penalty shootout against UNSW in the final).
Considering there's been an Australian Open for a few years, as well as a the Japan Open and German Open, I don't understand what the problem with having an American Open is. That's what the term "regional competition" is for anyway...
Btw, the biggest reasons for regional opens is to do testing/practice for the real one, and to avoid spending so much travel money (travel for a whole team + robots + support equipment is *not* cheap).
For a few years in a row, Carnegie Mellon was world champion. Then, around 4-5 years ago, Cornell started winning on a regular basis. (Note: There is a chance that Big Red has been surpassed in the last year or two, but up until my junior year there, i.e. two years ago, CU was #1.) Hmm, according to http://robocup.mae.cornell.edu/, Big Red won in 2002. In the history it looks like they came in third in '01 for some reason. Also note that there are multiple RoboCup divisions, Cornell competes in the "small size" division.
Not surprising considering that the CU RoboCup effort is heavily sponsored by the M&AE department, which also is behind Cornell's #1 Formula SAE racing team.
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I'm sick of this confusion.
Here's the bottom line: CMU and UNSW are the top of the line for the Robocup AIBO league. IE, The Sony Dog league. CMU won 2002, UNSW won 2000 and 2001.
Cornell Won the Robocup F180 (small sized) league in 99, 2000, and '02. They came in 3rd in '01. CMU hasn't won the small sized league since '97 and '98, when Robocup began. In fact, for many years they didn't have a small sized league.
Also, Unlike CMU, Cornell applies a systems-wide approach to developing the robots. It not just AI, its the hardware, and Cornell relies on MechE's and EE's as much or more than the CS's guys.
How do I know this? I was on the '00 Cornell Robocup team and wrote the vision system for that team.
"soccer is really, really boring, but coding them to play sounds kind of interesting."
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