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Interview with Student Sued by RIAA

TinoMNYY24 writes "Jesse Jordan, owner of chewplastic.com, was on CNN this morning discussing the RIAA settlement. You can read a poorly spelled transcript of the interview. Jesse is one of the two students at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute that were sued by the RIAA."

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  1. As we have known all along by Transient0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of the big problems with our legal system is that it is easy to bully someone with a frivolous lawsuit when they can't afford the time or money to defend themselves. As the defendant pointed out, a lawsuit against AltaVista would have just as much justification behind it (little to none) but they didn't go after them because AltaVista can afford to defend themselves.

    1. Re:As we have known all along by DunbarTheInept · · Score: 5, Interesting


      Let's call a spade a spade. It's stealing. We all do it, but it's stealing.

      It is not stealing. Copyright infringement is NOT STEALING. It is a crime. It is wrong. But it is a different kind of crime from stealing. Calling it stealing is like charging and assailant with murder when nobody actually died from the event in question.

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  2. Holy Columbine! by gpinzone · · Score: 5, Funny

    Daniel Peng, one of the defendants at Princeton, may think that the lawsuit was "settled amicably", but I do not think that this is an "amicable" settlement. In fact, I am outraged. They will pay for what they've done.

    Hey RIAA, if you see a nerd dressed in all black wearing a trenchcoat, ala "the Matrix", coming into your building...DUCK!

  3. This article has a great opening by Rev.LoveJoy · · Score: 5, Funny
    Direct from CNN's bad transcript:

    ANCHOR: Hey, Jesse, why do you think the government came after you?

    JESSE JORDAN, SETTLED LAWSUIT WITH RECORDING INDUSTRY: Well, actually it was the recording industry association.

    Kind of hard to tell these days, isn't it?

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  4. Did you see the spin... by gfxguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The government came after you...

    Twice (although corrected the second time). Glad Jessie had the mind to correct the interviewer - it's not easy to think on national television - watching the news "professionals" should be evidence enough, think about when you're just a college student.

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  5. RIAA are poopy-heads. by grub · · Score: 5, Insightful


    Smooth move, RIAA; this really endears your customers to you.. Talk about cutting your own throat.

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  6. Wow! The best part... by ratboy666 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The scariest and best part is when the INTERVIEWER actually confused the RIAA with the Government. That sure gives the RIAA some big clankin' balls.

    Next... RIAA orders bombing of Canada, because its acutally legal to download music here!

    Ratboy666.

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  7. Re:Guilty!! by TinoMNYY24 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No wonder you posted this as anonymous. You're ignorant. If you followed this story the last 5 times it was posted on slashdot, you would have realized that these students only created search engines, nothing more. The people who are "depriving" millionaires of money are the people who willingly use search engines to steal things. If a whorehouse uses the phone book to advertise, is the phone book to blame when people visit the whorehouse? I don't think so. You also need to see through the RIAA propaganda. They say that music sales are down by some percent (I want to say 25% but the numbers aren't in front of me). The truth is, music releases are down more than that. They release less music, then blame computer users when sales go down. Anyway, you're ignorant of the laws and the actual technology used in this case. Also, your post makes no sense. No one is complaining about copyright infringement except the RIAA, even though they have stolen music.

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  8. You've got to wonder by Snowspinner · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How does the RIAA decide which students to sue? I mean, do they do careful research on who's most likely to settle, rather than contest it, or counter-sue for harrassment? Of all the piracy that goes on college campuses, how do they pick which people?

    Oh well. Pity that the record industry has had to resort to extorting $12,000 out of people who can't defend themselves who probably aren't doing anything illegal.

    1. Re:You've got to wonder by mike77 · · Score: 5, Funny
      well, I'd bet $10 they don't go after law students!

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  9. Re:Settlement by gfxguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They clearly stated why they agreed to pay instead of fight - it would cost a lot more time and money than either the father or son could spare.

    I disagree with their decision on principle, but I don't have the kind of money it would take to defend against the RIAA either. It's extortion, really, and while I wish they would defend themselves, it's hard to say what I'd do in their position.

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  10. RPI's other search engine gone too by Patik · · Score: 5, Informative

    RPI's other search engine, run by a school-funded computer club, was taken by the school's request.

  11. Re:Poor Kid... by blair1q · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...because the traffic exceeds the low BW limit put in place by his school to stop campus filesharing.

  12. Re:Where is the EFF? by st0rmcold · · Score: 5, Insightful


    No you missed the point, along with the rest of the crowd here posting same as you.

    Notice how he said he's bringing the server back online when he gets back? He didn't settle due to the search engine, he settled due to his collection of mp3s, which he was clearly infringing on and there was no defense for that.

    The settlement had nothing to do with the fact that they created a search engine, because they clearly cannot go after such services.

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  13. Oops... by TubeSteak · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A. JORDAN: We didn't have any choice. The RIAA had a deadline. What they didn't tell the press, when they first hit Jesse with the papers, is while they were serving the papers on him, they also had a letter that they didn't give to the press and they told us that, oh, that was supposed to be the cover letter to the papers that he received, gee, we'll get it to right away. It was an offer to settle.

    that's a mighty convienent mistake considering the media attention this has gotten.

    I'd have to agree with the father, this was just a big PR trick for the RIAA and its a shame they aren't suing someone with the $$$$ to fight back.

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  14. When Were You Last Sued? by blunte · · Score: 5, Informative

    Consider spending months and months, and 100s of thousands of dollars to defend yourself.

    Yes you could countersue, and you might get your court costs covered. But where do you get the money you need to fight with (not even considering you might never get it back, even if you win)?

    The US justice system is a tool for people/companies with money. If you can't afford to fight a suit brought against you, then you have to settle (which despite not admitting wrongdoing, always makes you look guilty.)

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  15. Re:Guilty!! by Dylan+Zimmerman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Really, a more applicable analogy would be "if people use Google to find child porn, is it Google's fault?"

    In 2000, the RIAA claimed that sales dropped 4.1%. Meanwhile, they cut their album inventory by about 25%. They are making more money per release in the past three years than in the history of CDs.

    How, exactly, have the RIAA stolen music? If they have, then that's quite interesting, but if you're just talking about paying the artists next-to-nothing, then that's not stealing. The artists signed the contracts. If they didn't hire all sorts of lawyers to go over them and make sure that there weren't loopholes, then that's their problem.

    I actually met a contract lawyer once. He said that out of all of the recording industry contracts that he had reviewed, not one had been payed correctly. The artists were almost always owed significantly more than they had been payed.

  16. They edited it! by Andrevan · · Score: 5, Funny
    They edited the transcript, it was really like this.

    REPORTER: Hey, Jesse, why do you think the government came after you?
    JESSE: Well, actually it was the recording industry association.
    REPORTER: Yeah, that's what I said. The government.

    :P

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  17. Re:Summary by FuzzyBad-Mofo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    And twice the interviewer thought the student was being sued by a government body. Has the RIAA so ingrained themselves in the collective unconscious that reporters now think them part of the US govt?

  18. DONATE!!! by bert33 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The kid set up a paypal link on his site (chewplastic.com) so help him pay the rediculous extortion by the RIAA. I threw the kid $20 to help.

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