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The War Between p2p and Record Companies Heating Up?

the-dude-man writes "Securityfocus.com Reports that there may be a new nasty turn to the battle between the p2p networks and the RIAA/MPAA. recently, the RIAA has been trying to flood kazza with files that appear to be valid copyrighted material (movies,mp3s, ect) but are empty or, in one case, of Madonna Louise Veronica Ciccone, contain a voice file asking, "What the f*ck do you think you are doing?". The p2p networks are considering a possible move agianst the RIAA in response to this by using recently enacted anti-spam laws."

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  1. This month's topic in IEEE Spectrum Magazine by Cerlyn · · Score: 4, Informative

    IEEE Spectrum Magazine's topic for the month of May is "Invasion of the Music Snatchers." A number of copying and filesharing attacks and counterattacks are discussed.

    Many of this month's articles are online, but if you are not an IEEE member you are limited to the "publicfeature" URL's.

  2. Re:I can see what would happen... by feldsteins · · Score: 5, Informative

    No shit. Let's not forget that our major problem with the RIAA is the fact that they are enacting laws and introducing DRM technologies that destroy our fair use as consumers. Our problem with them is not that they are trying to prevent us from stealing music.

    Granted, they need to be in compliance with the law as they take swipes at pirates...but c'mon, they're still pirates.

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  3. Verified downloads by Knacklappen · · Score: 4, Informative

    KaZaA Lite has a webpage with verified downloads (seems to be under construction, right now). Or just google. That simple.
    Despite this, there is a rating system in KaZaA Lite.

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  4. Remixed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The "what the fuck" clip has already even been remixed. The site with the links for that is here.

    A screenshot of madonna's hacked site can be found here.

  5. Madonna Remix Project by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You can find the original "wtf do you think you're doing" Madonna mp3, along with a pile of remixes at the Madonna Remix Project.

  6. Downloading pirated music is not illegal by Fastolfe · · Score: 5, Informative

    In most countries, it is not illegal to download copyrighted music. It's illegal to redistribute copyrighted music against the wishes of the copyright holder.

    The RIAA can't come after you just for downloading music. You have to be actively re-sharing that music out again to break a law.

    On the flip side, though, you are not procuring that music through legal/legitimate means, so you may not be granted certain protections and warranties that you might otherwise be granted, so your law suit might be tricky.

    Your jurisdiction may differ, though.

  7. Re:Madonna clip by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    If you use Edonkey (www.edonkey2000.com)
    ed2k://|file|Madonna_-_What _the_Fuck.MP3|161792|19 240e797ffeb864a11de588a7997727|

  8. Re:A pity... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Remember that piracy is stealing

    1. It's not "piracy". Piracy is a crime committed on the high seas, involving armed robbery and murder. This is copyright infringement.

    2. It's not "stealing" under any sane definition (not even under the law, in most cases). It's a civil tort.

    While I don't condone copyright infringement in any way (and I don't have ANY bootleg music or software myself, nor do I want to) it's disturbing to see someone who's been so thoroughly brainwashed by the RIAA.

  9. Technical Countermeasures by Analysis+Paralysis · · Score: 2, Informative
    There is an application called PeerGuardian that can block communications with untrustworthy hosts (using an IP list like the P2P Enemies list). Shareaza users should check the forums - especially the Security and Privacy one for the Shareaza Security Update, that does a similar thing.

    Users of the Agnitum Outpost firewall can download the Blockpost plugin which blocks access to sites at the IP level (i.e. you would not even be able to ping such restricted sites). A Blockpost filter list based on the P2P Enemies list can be found in this thread.

  10. Re:A pity... by luzrek · · Score: 4, Informative
    The problem with RIAA and MPAA going after the people who are actually stealling the music/movies/whatever is that for the most part these are their best customers as well. The person who downloads 30+ hours of REM mp3's is likely to have 30+ albums/singles/imports of REM music. If RIAA goes after this person, they will loose a good customer. This is why they are so desparate to block the music/movies/etc. from getting into illegal circulation in the first place.

    I never thought I'ld be saying it, but they need to follow Apple's lead. To stop theft, make a service that is faster and more convinient than stealing. What the MPAA and RIAA want to do is way too much like the British Salt Laws. They'ld like to have licenses which say "only you may listen to this song only on this copy of this medium."

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  11. In a land of Barbies... by dwaggie · · Score: 2, Informative

    ...they're pissed because some people just aren't buying the same things again and again and again. I can only stand so much of the same crap. I've stopped listening to the radio. I haven't searched for an mp3 for my own amusement and delight in at least a year and a half. I download, pretty much, from technomusic.org or just sit with DI open over an mp3 stream. The CDs I make for my car are techno remixes and rips of CDs I own. I have become that anomoly of a person who owns just about every mp3 they have and prefers them for management space over CDs.

    I still support the P2P experience.

    Peer-to-peer networks are not responsible for their content. The only 'point of contact' is the software provider, but there are many of those, now. gnutella (the original client) is all but gone, replaced by a million clones. There's dc, dc++ and a few hundred clients and p2p networks like it. No one could ever watch them all.

    The RIAA can't get a grip on the idea that they're slowly losing album sales to mediocrity. MTV is slowly disintegrating. The economy is in the trash, unemployment is fluctuating, but mostly towards the rising / steady mark, not towards the steady / dwindling one. It couldn't be that a decline in sales came from a decline of readily available money on hand, could it? Heaven forbid.

    They're spending an awful lot of money on people who will be able to do one of two thing: make them regredt it, or be able to ignore it entirely.

  12. What utter BS by Theatetus · · Score: 4, Informative
    If the music industry becomes obsolete, you will have no new music to download.

    What utter crap. Of my rather large CD collection, I'd say about 15% was produced by a large record label, and only about half was produced by a label at all. I don't infringe copyrights because the music spewed out by labels is almost completely crap, and the few bright spots I'm more than willing to pay for.

    I get most of my CDs by going to shows and getting them (usually for free) from bands I like, or downloading the tunes from their websites.

    Sure, anyone can put up a web page for marketing or distibution, but people still need to know that the web site exists.

    Ever heard of marketing? Mailing lists? Salesmanship? Good old-fashioned pressing the flesh? I know lots of bands that do that to get people interested in their work. Oh wait... you mean you want musicians not to have to work at it?

    Also, because just about anybody record songs in their basements and put them on the internet, they lack credibility. ANYONE can do it. Under this model, we will end up with an increased supply, but the product won't be nearly as good.

    Hello! Earth to Eminor! The music being spit out ALREADY lacks credibility. The quality ALREADY is no good. In fact, the only decent music I can find with a very few exceptions comes from people that RIAA members wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole.

    Hey, if you feel you need some suit to decide what music you should choose from, go for it. But don't act like they're doing the rest of us a favor, OK?

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