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DRAM Price Fixing

AEton writes "There's an interesting article up at Newsforge, an OSDN sibling site, about price fixing in the DRAM market. According to Melanie Hollands, a technology analyst, market consolidation and uncertain prices have contributed to subtle cooperation between the major DRAM "competitors" to keep prices high. While she finds little "hard evidence of collusion", there are strong circumstantial trends which last year sparked a secretive Department of Justice antitrust inquiry." Allegations of this have been floating around for a while - heck, you can even join the suit.

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  1. Howto - Legalized Price Fixing by snatchitup · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's actually a stupid law. Anti-price fixing that is.

    In fact, the most important commodity in America is readily purchased from a price-fixing cartel (aka OPEC).

    Here's the howto on legalized price-fixing in America.

    Monday... from the Wall Street Journal, "AT&T announces a 4.3% price increase in consumer long distance rates across the board."

    Tuesday... from the NY Times, "MCI announces a 4.35% price increase in consumer long distance rates..."

    (Result: A successful price fixing.)

    Or it could go like this....
    Monday... WSJ Reports "AT&T announces a 6% increase in consumer l.d. rates.

    Tuesday... WSJ Report "MCI announces a 3% rate hike."

    Wednesday... "WSJ Reports "AT&T announces a 50% decrease in a previously announces rate hike due to customer complaints..."

    (Result: A successful price fixing in two stages.)

    Shit happens man.

    1. Re:Howto - Legalized Price Fixing by snatchitup · · Score: 4, Insightful

      In the case of oil, OPEC is a single country in a market where the US buys from other producers as well

      What you say?????

      And oh by the way what you didn't see from my example was that. AT&T announces a price hike, and since others didn't follow suit, it adjusts it accordingly. Basically, this is Public Price Fixing. It's pricing-fixing in the open. It takes a few days/weeks to complete. But it still is collusion, under the guise of public disclusure. AT&T went to the public before it went to MCI. But, in the end, the result is the same as if they had gone behind closed doors and announced the price hike.

      The reason the price-fixing laws are stupid is simple. Monopolies are not immune to the law of supply and demand. Back when AT&T was the monopoly, people simply made fewer long distance phone calls. An l.d. call was a major family event for some. As the price fell, usage increased.

      The "maximum profit" point where supply curven meets the demand curve is the same whether Monopoly, Oligopoly, etc.

      In the case of memory. Cheaper memory means in the long term, developers will develop applications that make use of tons of RAM on each machine. Temporarily prices may spike, but long term, they will go towards the maximum profitability point on the supply/demand curve. If DRAM is too expensive, PC's will start using less (relatively speaking).

      If DRAM is too cheap, some companies will leave the business.

      More exaples of Price Fixing... Simple. Oil (OPEC). Gasoline. Lumber. Health Care (in a major way). Beer. Eggs. Automobiles (Well, the govt. is a player here, with Tariffs, so that foreign auto's don't get too cheap.)

  2. Re:you can even join the suit by TamMan2000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey, who needs evidence!! "It was HIM" That's all the evidence I need!

    Worked for Iraq...

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  3. what sucks is globalization by muyuubyou · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When a very limited number of companies control the whole world's market, things like this happen.

    The user is helpless when they have so much control. Reached this point, competition is not enough and the market doesn't regulate itself at all. This is when free market means free for big corporations to abuse and screw the rest.

  4. DRAM is veeeery cheap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't understand the problem. 1GB (2x512MB) of PC2700 DDR memory can be bought under $100.

    DoJ should investigate OS or Office suite price fixing instead. These are horribly overpriced.

  5. Re:One word: Sumitomo by cornice · · Score: 4, Insightful

    RAM sellers suck. I don't know where the exact problem is, but it's treated as a commodity, and it's wrong.

    In business, "Commodity" typically means an item that is not differentiated from others and sold purely for what it is, without regard for who made it. Price is the only thing that matters when buying a commodity and only the producers that can sell for the lowest price survive. It's typically considered a bad thing when you let your product become so plain that it's considered a commodity. Did you meant to say commodity because that would typically be a good thing for consumers?

  6. DRAM OPEC by moojin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    i've always wondered why the major memory chip producers did not create an OPEC type consortium for DRAM. they would be able to control the price of ram chips and hopefully hold it at a level that would be cheap enough to ensure brisk sales, while ensuring that they would make enough profit to a) keep their workers employeed all of the time, b) keep their production lines running at a certain capacity, c) be able to invest in memory chip technology.

    the DRAM constortium could raise the prices on memory chips to a point where consumers would find it too expensive to buy chips, but a) the smaller manufacturers could offer cheaper products b) like OPEFC the consortium does not want to alienate its consumers through higher prices.

    on another note, "Regarding the latter "conspiracy", the three main culprits appear to be Samsung and Hynix, both of Korea; and Taiwan's Nanya." though these three companies are geographically more closely located than the other major companies, it does not necessarily mean that they would want to devise a plan to price fix. don't airlines in the U.S. price fix also?

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