Play PSX Games On Your Xbox

falzbro writes "Now Xbox owners (well, modded Xbox owners) can do what the Playstation people have been able to do for years; play PSX games on your console! PCSX has been ported to the Xbox. It's unfortunate that the homebrew Xbox development scene is stuck in a world of pseudo-legality, due to the lack of a usable Legal XDK. A compatibility list is currently being hammered out, and it's limited to only playing games stored on your Xbox HDD."

Comments

Oooookay...

[InfinityWpi]

So you essentially have to rip the game onto your hard drive to play it? .... How big is an Xbox hard drive, and how much is your average PSX CD, again?

Somehow, I don't think this is as big a drawback as you make it sound.

Re:Oooookay...

[stratjakt]

When your harddrive is full of 9 gig xbox images that you "fair use legally" backed up after you rented them from blockbuster, this gets to be a pain in the ass.

Also, you have to make an ISO on your PC, then ftp to the xbox, copy it over, then play it (maybe).

That's a lot of work to avoid paying 25 bucks for a modded PSX.

Re:Thanks for the Warez update

[wo1verin3]

This project may not interest you, but as an XBox and original PSX console owner this is extremely cool for those times I want to play Twisted Metal 2 and my PSX is being flaky because the plastic piece containing the laser assembly has warped slightly giving me problems reading discs.

You are talking about a tool. All tools can be used for good or for bad. A hammer can be used to damage a car, or to fix a house.

I'll be choosing to fix my house with this tool.

Re:Thanks for the Warez update

[stratjakt]

I'm talking about a piece of software that was developed using stolen code from microsoft, and is a port of open source code (GPLed, IIRC).

Sure makes the OSS community look grand, doesn't it?

So fine, you don't respect MS's IP in the XDK, but you respect the IP of every PSX devloper. I'll buy that.

But I'd bet the next step is to use the same reasoning as the kazaa users. "Why should I pay 20 bucks for a game with only 1 good level?"

I already said that technically I think emulation is really interesting.

I used to follow the develoments closely a couple of years ago. I watched NES and GameGear, then SNES and Genesis, then N64 and PSX emerge from the works of skilled coders.

By then it had all changed 100%. It was about 0-day r0mz and free games, not about mastering a piece of hardware.

Watch the emu community now, this "preservation of hardware" stuff, which used to be the driving mission, is now mostly lip service. Lots of work emulating popular stuff like GBA or PSX, little to nothing on Jaguar or Saturn or Dreamcast (the platforms in need of "preservation").

So this is just another step. Free 0-day r0mz for your xbox. Very little skill created this. It's a port of some open source using stolen libraries. It's written for a community that cares nothing at all for IP, and feels entitled to free games.

Xbox DRM versus Paladium (NG...)

[goombah99]

Microsoft (steve balmer) has said that we should not fret so much about Paladium (redubbed Next Generaion etc...) since it will be optional. The end user can choose not to use it. of course certain Apps wont run in non-trusted mode but that'll be my choice. And of course, the ability to run certain apps in a trusted mode will indeed be desirable (e.g. medical records, banking, coroporate VPN). sounds good right?

So if MS really feels this way, why are they so obstinate about the Xbox modding? Xbox's protection is highly analogous to the Paladium in the way it uses a secure platform. So it seems like I ought to be able to diable this at boot time. Okay in return I should expect that Xbox games and Xbox network should be inaccessible in a non-secure platform mode, but if we take steve balmer at his word then this should be an acceptable choice left to the user to make.

On the other hand one could draw a more troubling inference. MS is saying, we are going to lock out non-approved game vendors by using our secure computing platform as a club. This is not unreasonable if it just stopped at Xbox (since they dont have a monopoly on game boxes). But this may also be a the camel's nose in the tent for genertal computing: we're going to do the same with paladium to secure our software monopoly. We will just call it a choice-- a hobson's choice--to evade the monopoly problem.

Of course I'm just talking out my ass here. But I see a strong parallel and dont like it.

Re:Xbox DRM versus Paladium (NG...)

[alienw]

WTF are you talking about? Every video game starting with the 8-bit Nintendo used the same kind of copy protection to keep out unlicensed titles. Why are you dissing Microsoft for following the accepted industry practice? It's not that I like Microsoft, but people really look pretty dumb when they start inventing conspiracy theories left and right.

Who cares?

[RatBastard]

Not to be a dick or anythingm but who cares? You can get a PSOne for $50.00 (US) almost anywhere. That's less than getting your XBox modded. And you won't have to worry about whether or not the emulator works with any particular game.

Re:Who cares?

[SiliconJesus101]

Well, most things posted here are not really "practical" but they are rich on the pure geek factor alone. Hell, Linux on a cash register, web servers on C-64's, and Dreamcast VMU's, etc. None of these are at all practical....but damn it's nifty...isn't it.

Doesn't being geeky also involve having some fun and playing with your toys in a non-practical way?

What's in it for Microsoft?

[RatBastard]

What's in it for Microsoft?

• How would they benefit from this?
  They wouldn't.
• What aspect of their business interests would this serve?
  None.
• How does letting people modify their console to play their competitor's products help them?
  It doesn't.
• Do they get any money from those $10.00 PSX titles?
  Nope. Sony does. (And since you have to use .ISO's, that's not really true, either.)

I don't see any business case for Microsoft not stomping this into the ground. Hell, they might even get Sony to help them out with this one as the need for .ISO's could be seen as an invitation to pirate PSX games.