GNOME 2.3 Snapshot, KDE 3.1.2 Released

BSD Forums writes "The GNOME Development Series Snapshot 2.3.1 "Daddy Walrus", is now available. FreeBSD's Joe Marcus Clarke has ported this release (2.3) on FreeBSD and is looking for your testing help. Also, the KDE Project announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.1.2, a maintenance release for the third generation of this UNIX desktop."

Comments

whither Ximian GNOME 2?

[IGnatius T Foobar]

All this new GNOME and KDE stuff is great, but what I really want to know is, when will Ximian's release of GNOME 2.x be ready? Their GNOME 1.x release far surpassed what everyone else was doing with it at the time. If their 2.x is similarly superior, it's really going to be super slick.

Re:whither Ximian GNOME 2?

[Hieronymus Howard]

All this new GNOME and KDE stuff is great, but what I really want to know is, when will Ximian's release of GNOME 2.x be ready? Their GNOME 1.x release far surpassed what everyone else was doing with it at the time. If their 2.x is similarly superior, it's really going to be super slick.

I'd agree that Ximian Gnome 1.x was a great product. I compared it to (the then current) KDE 2.x, and Ximian just blew KDE away. I've been a devoted Gnome user since. However, I recently migrated from Red Hat+Ximian to Gentoo/Gnome 2.2. At least that was the intention, until I took a look at KDE 3.1. Wow - instantly konverted! It's uch slicker & more usable than Gnome. Maybe Ximian will redress the balance. Gnome/GTK still has the best apps though. Nothing can touch Evolution or Galeon (so far), though Konqueror is catching up with Galeon.

HH (waiting to emerge -u kde)
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Re:I had no idea....

[Cnik70]

I totally agree with you on this one. I was a die hard RH fan up till 8.0 came out. Within days I grabbed a copy of SuSE 8.1 and haven't looked back ever since. I still believe the RH makes a good distro, but I really did not like how they mangled KDE and the ability to easily customize it.

Maintenance vs New Functionality

[chill]

I'd like to applaud the method the KDE team uses, releasing maintenance releases that focus on fixing bugs and improving stability.

I've seen too many patches and fixes that insist in introducing new components or functionality at the same time as a fix. The separation of "fix" and "feature" is a critical one for minimizing the number of new bugs introduced.

While KDE is by no means the only project where this is practiced, they are a big one and it is a method that should be praised and emulated whenever possible.

Re:I had no idea....

[Kesha]

In RH9 they screwed up the KDE panel, the Icons look really bad when you set the panel size to "small". This bug was not in vanilla KDE. They also insist on changing all the KDE panel contents every time I log in. I have four Linux boxes at home running on NFS/NIS. When I log in to RH9 on the server, it does something to my Desktop customizations. I then log in to RH7.3 in my room and the vanilla KDE is screwed up because RH9 has "upgraded" me to their KDE flavour.

The solution appeared to me to upgrade all four boxes to the same level, and I was pissed off enough at RedHat to have gone to SuSE instead. Why? Because their KDE does not suck as much, and because all of their system configuration tools are written in Qt, which makes them consistent with the rest of the desktop.

I know that this is getting off topic, but I also would like to mention that SuSE is cheaper (the Pro version), comes with great documentation, and supports ALSA. Also, RH9 did not recognize my TV card on setup, but SuSE did - more points for SuSE. And another thing - SuSE employes KDE coders, so I would rather compensate them by purchasing the SuSE Linux.

Paul.

Re:ATTENTION!!!

[damiam]

It wasn't amusing, it was just stupid. Everyone knows that the purpuse of Debian stable is to be stable, and therefore it does not carry development releases. Pointing that out every time a remotely-related thread comes around is utterly pointless.