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Is Untrasonic Electronic Pest Control, Effective?

tedgyz asks: "I have declared war on the pests in my house. I am tired of hearing the scurrying of mice and squirrels in my walls. Worse - I am tired of the nests littered with droppings buried in boxes in the attic. I have used standard traps, and although successful, it seems that new rodents or more than happy to replace the ones I've killed. Are ultrasonic deterrents effective?"

"I've searched the web, but I can only find marketing material from manufacturers and distributors. I'm looking for cold, hard facts.

  1. Do ultrasonic deterrents really keep rodents out of your house?
  2. What is the range?
  3. Do they last, or do the rodents eventually return?
  4. Are they truly innocuous to dogs and cats?
  5. How do you measure success?"

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  1. I don't know what they do to insects. by Pathwalker · · Score: 4, Funny

    I do know that those pest repellers can drive me out of a room pretty quickly.
    Whenever I get near one I get a horrible headache after a few seconds that just keeps getting worse and worse until I flee, or can disable the damned device.

    My advice would be to avoid them. Never let one into your house or workplace, destroy any you find, and try to drive the companies that make them out of business, sterilize the ground on which the factories that built them once stood (after your burn the buildings, and before you salt the ashes), and force the people who invented/built them into a lonely exile in Antarctica.

    Of course, I might be slightly biased.

    1. Re:I don't know what they do to insects. by MasterofVoid · · Score: 5, Funny

      It would been nice if the parent had mentioned in his post that he is a rat himself, thus the problems with the pest control gadgets..

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  2. They work, in the right cases by Proteus · · Score: 4, Informative

    They do work in certain cases -- I have two in my house (kitchen and computer room), and they have stopped my mouse problem.

    Rooms with odd geometry or many sound-absorbing obstructions don't work very well. A good rule of thumb is that these will only protect areas an IR remote would reach from the outlet they're plugged into -- in other words, line-of-sight.

    One word of advice -- don't go cheap! The cheap ones audibly click, and give sensitive people headaches. The good ones are unnoticable to pets and humans.

    As for range, it varies -- but usually only one room per device. See labeling!

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  3. Re:The most effective solution by hswerdfe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I had owned 6 cats growing up 2 males 4 females.

    and in my opinion
    If you want a mouser get a female.
    if you want a friend get a male.

    oh but if its 12:30 am and you hear them scratching at the door...look out the window first and make sure they don't have a mouse, before letting them in!

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  4. security patch by BigBir3d · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You need to do more than kill them, or drive them out. Think of it is a security problem, and patch the holes. If you keep killing them, and they keep coming back, there are problems. For them to be living in your residence a few things have to available to them; easy entrance, food, water, and shelter. The last you can't do anything about, short of tearing / burning down your place. But you can patch holes, clean the attic, fix leaking pipes, remove pond from the back yard, etc. Overall, just make it un-appealing for the critters to live there.

    Have you tried any professional services?

    IMO, the sonic thing is a total scam. Many of my old customers tried that, and eventually gave up. (I got out of the pest control business in '97 or so)

  5. Speaking as a homeowner... by clintp · · Score: 4, Funny

    You can't just kill the pests, you have to kill them and send a message to the others. I suggest making little crosses and crucifying the mice and leaving those aroung the attic. (Hint, use staples.) Also leaving squirrel heads on small metal pikes seems effective. Keeps other people from snooping around in your attic as well.

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  6. Re:Low tech solution. by GigsVT · · Score: 5, Funny

    Holy hell.

    You mean I could have been harvesting that stuff and selling it on ebay all this time, instead of spending money on cat litter?

    Now all I need to figure out how to do is get the cat to piss in a cup. He might freak out and think it was a drug test though.

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  7. Genetically similar by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a known fact that some animals (especially smaller ones) can hear a much wider frequency range than humans can.

    "genetically similar" means nothing - A few kilohertz can make a lot of difference.

    But one has to be careful not to get TOO close to the human hearing range, as within 3-4 kHz of the human hearing range, it causes US discomfort. A bit above that and it won't cause pain for humans at all, but will sound like an unholy shriek to a small animal.

    Note: I'm talking about the ultrasonic-only ones. And having multiple small units scattered around is probably better for our ears than one large super-loud unit, as one superloud unit might still have enough SPL to damage someone's ears even though we can't hear it. (Although it helps that the ear won't have any resonances at those frequencies - This is why smaller animals can hear higher freqs, smaller ear canals = higher resonant freqs.)

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  8. Who really sells these things? by hired+killer · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I was in pest control from 1974 to 2000. With the wide ranging paranoia about chemicals in pest control and the philosophy of "integrated pest management", you can be sure that Pest Control operators would be clinging to this like a wet t-shirt if there was any beneficial use.

    Just look at where you can get these things. There is huge money in installation of these devices in commercial establishments if the cost would justify the results. Yet, the only ones selling these things are the people who don't have to answer to the client month after month about why it isn't working.

  9. FTC Says 'No' by WallyHartshorn · · Score: 4, Informative
    Doing a search on Skeptic Planet</plug> for "ultrasonic electronic pest control" found this news item on the National Council Against Health Fraud web site, which references a Federal Trade Commission news release. Quoting:
    FTC hits claims for mosquito repellent device. The U.S. Federal Trade Commission has charged Lentek International, Inc, and its principals, Joseph Durek and Lou Lentine, with making false and unsubstantiated claims that (a) their MosquitoContro devices repel mosquitoes from the user and provide an effective alternative to using chemical pesticides in the prevention of the West Nile Virus; (b) their pest-control products drive away mice, rats, bats, cockroaches, and other household pests by means of ultrasound and electromagnetic technology; and (c) their air-cleaning products remove various pollutants from indoor air through ozone and ionization. The company, located in Orlando, Florida, markets air cleaners, pest-control devices, housewares, pet products, personal care products, and flashlights through the Internet, retail stores, catalogs, and individual home distributors. [FTC alleges electronic mosquito repellent claims are false; sellers also lack evidence for ultrasonic pest-control and air cleaning product claims. FTC news release, Aug 28, 2002]
    Hope that helps!
  10. Re:Mousies yes, Roaches no. by 3waygeek · · Score: 4, Informative

    Surprisingly, Chrysantemum seeds work against roaches. We set some out a while back and the roaches dissapeared.

    Not so surprising; chrysanthemums contain pyrethrins, a natural insecticide.

  11. Re:Does anyone know if the insect ones work? by gordguide · · Score: 4, Informative

    No, they don't work on insects (at least, nobody has been able to get them to work in independant testing labs). Apparently, this is due to the fact that mosquitoes are nearly deaf.

    You can buy expensive CO2 generator/electrostatic killers; they work to a certain extent. By that I mean they attract mosquitoes, they kill mosquitoes, but they don't kill as many as they attract. Net result: more mosquitoes than you had before.

    You can buy bug zappers. They work as well, but apparently there are serious health hazards associated with haveing microscopic bits of blown up insects landing in your food. "Zapper" is an interesting description; but the correct term is more like "vaporizing".

    You can use Citronella candles, and citronella bug sprays. They work, but not so well; some lose effectiveness after as little as 15 minutes, some as long as 2 hours.

    You can use Avon Skin-so-soft, which works for 15 minutes. Apparently mosquitoes hate slick skin creams of all kinds, so plain-jane lotions work as well and as long.

    DEET is the only thing that actually deals with flying insects over a decent period of time. Currently the recommendation is to use no stronger than 30% DEET formulas.

    Other, "envoiornmentally friendly" spray/apply lotions work, but for short periods of time. Since most should not be used more than twice a day, that doesn't help if you're really outdoors.

    Mosquito coils work because they contain a pesticide. You decide if that's what you want your kids breathing.

    Bug jackets work; remember that if the screen touches your skin they can bit through it.

    What really works is getting rid of the breeding sites. A single coke can with an inch of rainwater can grow about ten thousand mosquitoes; you have your work cut out for you, but it does make a real difference. If you have a pond, put fish in it. They eat the larvae.

    There are about 90 kinds of North American mosquitoes, and they have specific habitat preferences. Thus, in the rain, you get the kind that like humidity and lower temps. At evening, you get the kind that like the sun going down and the temps falling a bit. So, chances are that the kind that give you the reaction will either die off sometime during the season, or you're having consistent weather they like, but getting at the breeding sites is your true best option.

    You may well be having an allergic reaction of some kind as well; since allergies are cumulative (ie the reaction doesn't happen until you get some personally significant number of bites, a threshold you may have exceeded). I would use DEET but it's up to you.