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The Internet and The War

John Jorsett writes "Wired Magazine has an interesting article on the realities of the use of communication and navigation technology in the Iraq war. Particularly intriguing is the use of chat rooms to engage experts thousands of miles away in helping to solve problems at the troop level in the field. And if you think your admin job is tough, try running your servers in 125 degree heat in a sandstorm."

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  1. Can't be true. by caluml · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Suspect chemical attack, he types into a Microsoft Chat session running on the tactical Internet, the military's battlefield communications system.

    Tell me this isn't true? The US military resort to Microsoft Chat to communicate a possible chemical attack? Surely they'd have some custom chat software with some heavy duty encryption in it?

  2. Re:OMG by caluml · · Score: 4, Interesting
    every friendly tank, plane, ship, and soldier in the world in real time,

    I think "every" might be a slight exaduration. But seriously, does that extend to allied forces, cos we (British) always seem to take a lot of hits from people allegedly on the same side as us. :o(

    And also, it's all very well having two soldeirs guarding it, but what happens if a missile lands right on top of them. You need them separated by a few miles.

  3. RTFA by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Welcome to Siprnet," he says. GCCS runs over Siprnet - the Secret Internet Protocol Router Network - in the same way that Web applications run over the public Internet. The difference with "Sipper" is that it's basically a far-flung local area network. To maximize security, it doesn't connect with the Internet proper. But it links Centcom to the battlefield and, among other things, allows Franks to talk to Rumsfeld and President Bush via two-way videoconference every evening.

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    "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
    1. Re:RTFA by KrispyKringle · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Again, according to the article, procedure is that if a humvee or truck equipped with one of these units is surrounded, the driver is to turn off the ignition, which shuts down the computer, requireing a password to restart. However, you obviously have to wonder what happens if, say, the driver is sniped but the computer left intact. Some sort of timed logout, while-using-biometric-authentication, or deadman switch seems the best answer, I suppose. Of course, the same vulnerability applies to radios, apparently without many ill effects.

    2. Re:RTFA by Svobodin · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On the FBCB2 project, SOP was to "zero" the harddrive using a built-in switch, then smash the screen if compromise was certain. But even if they were to get hold of one, and if the average Iraqi is anywhere near as smart as the average American GI, it'd take him a while to make sense of the damned thing. In that time, we're busy pushing out new comsec to secure any future transmissions.

  4. Better watch that EULA! by phillymjs · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So what happens if a bunch of soldiers in the field die due to a failure of/flaw in a Microsoft product? Will Microsoft get off scot-free because of their "no liability" language in their EULA? Would there suddenly be knee-jerk laws passed concerning software reliability?

    Discuss.

    ~Philly

  5. Re:Get real. by caluml · · Score: 3, Interesting
    the Chinese got inside our spyplanes and didn't get jack squat out of it.

    You're very certain of that.

  6. Re:OMG by (54)T-Dub · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Further down in the article the exaggeration is revealed:

    About a quarter of the trucks in this convoy have GCCS

    The system is still really powerfull though:

    One zoom out and I'm looking at the entire Baghdad region. Another zoom out and I see all of Iraq, with forces dotted in the north and heavily clumped around the capital in the center. One more click and I'm looking at the entire sphere of Central Command, from the edge of Libya to Pakistan. I see forces in Turkey, and clustered in Iraq and Kuwait. I feel like a four-star general. I'm sitting in the Iraqi desert looking at troop movements across 25 countries.

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    "I can not bring myself to believe that if knowledge presents danger, the solution is ignorance" - Isaac Asimov
  7. Embedded... by cruppel · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The news ruined the word "embedded" for me...Embedded reporters watching soldiers fight, take a piss, talk about this war like it had been going on for even two months, watching them do whatever...I will always hear that word from now on and think of soldiers doing mundane things.

    As for them using "Microsoft Chat" or whatever they called it, that's just plain irresponsible. If people have trouble using computers for simple email every day then why on God's (sandy) earth do they think those same technologies will hold up in much more mission-critical military conditions?

  8. Re:Soldier Skills. by Planesdragon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The military better watch itself -- if they start relying too heavily on technology, soldiers will lose the fundamental skills that make them unique.

    Yeah, like swordfighting--er...

    I mean, yeah, like how to fire a musket line--no, wait...

    Trenches! Must not forget trenches!

    The history of war is a history of technology progressing, progressing, and progressing. The "war-fighter" (i.e., "solider, salior, marine, or pilot") doesn't have a job of reading maps and following trails--their job is to fight and win.

    Sure, your networked rifle squad could lose its GPS uplink--but that's no different than having your map burnt away from you.