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Trend Micro Quarantines Letter P

kkenedy writes "I thought this was the funniest thing I have read in a long time: CRN reports that a bug in an update to one of Trend Micro's security products inadvertently blocks all incoming e-mail containing the letter P." Makes me glad I don't use it, else I wouldn't get any mail, purely on the basis of my surname.

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  1. Obligatory joke by leomekenkamp · · Score: 5, Funny

    First ost, first ost!

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    1. Re:Obligatory joke by d_lesage · · Score: 3, Funny

      This spam is brought to you by the letter P and by the number 3.

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      Ich werde nie wieder denken
    2. Re:Obligatory joke by stray · · Score: 3, Funny
      "We wanted to be as open as possible about this," he said. "In the United States, customers have been contacted directly via e-mail, and we've notified the reseller channel."


      The mail read: "lease aly the atch to the roduct as soon as ossible"

  2. Atleast I won't have to worry about... by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 3, Funny

    Emails telling me that I can enlarge my penis...

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    1. Re:Atleast I won't have to worry about... by paja · · Score: 2, Funny

      sure, but when your penis is enlarged, it becomes Penis - is there a capitalization taken into account?

  3. say fast.. by boogy+nightmare · · Score: 3, Funny

    eter ier icked a eck of ickled eer
    if eter ier icked a eck of ickled eer
    wheres the ickled eer eter ier ecked :)

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  4. Another obligatory joke by shadowcabbit · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sources within the company say that the bug is not the result of an unfortunate typo, but rather the outcome of an anti-spam filter which was intended to remove all obscene references to urine from email. The National Association of Urologists and Endocrinologists is up in arms.

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  5. Wait a min. by popeyethesailor · · Score: 3, Funny

    "In the United States, customers have been contacted directly via e-mail, and we've notified the reseller channel."

    Wonder if those mails had the letter ;P

    1. Re:Wait a min. by big_gibbon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Front page headlines - Memepool link actually useful!

    2. Re:Wait a min. by Zayin · · Score: 2, Funny

      From: Trend Micro Customer Suort
      To: US Customer

      Due to a bug in an antisam update, Rule #915, in Trend Micro eManager, the e-mail content security roduct that rovides content filtering, sam blocking and reorting, lease download and install Rule #916 immediately.

      The bug blocks all emails containing the letter right after the letter "O" in the alhabet.

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      Trend Micro Customer Suort

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    3. Re:Wait a min. by Findel · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Due to a bug in an antisam update" - you missed one!

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    4. Re:Wait a min. by odaiwai · · Score: 2, Funny

      Anti-Sam? You mean I can filter out emails from my Boss?!

      Hoo Boy! Sign me up!

      dave

  6. I have a strategy... by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 2, Funny

    Would you like to have a larger qenis?

    Men, are you sick and tired of women sighing with disaqqointment when you take
    off your trousers?

    Doesn't it really qiss you off?

    Well now with new QENISGROW2000, (a unique herbal remedy) you can have them
    GASQ when you UNSHEATH your manhood.

    grasqee

  7. a tip for this guy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
    "I thought this was the funniest thing I have read in a long time

    Ummmm, like time to expand your horizons maybe?

  8. This reminds me of a true corporate story by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Our corporation has incorporated some content inspection product for email. After doing so, a certain employee stopped receiving emails. It turned out that it was because he had "shit" in his name ;-)

    1. Re:This reminds me of a true corporate story by odaiwai · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yeah, I installed eManager once. Mr Morishita and Mr Takeshita were not amused at all. And seeing as how they were the company directors, we decided that eManager was a huge steaming pile of crap.

      To Trend Micro: regexps: you guys heard of these?

      dave

  9. The quarantined mail... by jkrise · · Score: 3, Funny

    From: suort@microsoft.com

    Here's a link to our latest Service Ack for the Windows X Oerating system. lease download this 550MB Service Ack, and all your roblems will be solved.

    Eole (figure this one!) with NT4 and below will not be suorted. The rice for this roduct under Subscrition Advantage will be $100 er year er license.

    Issued in ublic interest by the Entagon.

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  10. This is an appaling error by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    You mean their QA actually signed off a product that rejected p but accepted 25 other potentially dangerous alphabetical characters ? The mind boggles. The only way to be safe is to block all the evil characters and let the digits through

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    1. Re:This is an appaling error by Chester+K · · Score: 2, Funny

      The only way to be safe is to block all the evil characters and let the digits through

      What are you talking about? Digits are the worst offenders! Look at how many viruses have spread solely through the distribution of 0's and 1's! Imagine the mayhem if the bigger digits start cutting in on the action!@

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  11. Wachovia/1st Union blocks email with "hi" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wachovia has been blocking ALL email with "hi" in the title for almost 2 years now with no notice of what the problem is, just "rejected due to policy". But they do NOT view it as a problem even though they have around 25,000-30,000 employees. If only 1% are entitled "hi" and each gets maybe 10 emails a day, that is 2500-3000 emails blocked per day with no notice.

    Nice service from a BANK. Their tech department is pretty stupid.

    1. Re:Wachovia/1st Union blocks email with "hi" by octalgirl · · Score: 3, Informative


      Sounds like that's left over from a mass mailer virus that was going around a couple of years back. It took everyone in the address book and added 'Hi' to the subject line so ppl would think it was from a friend. That's gone by though and very easily picked up from any virus detection package. Sounds like your net admin needs to get back in there and tweak the filter settings.

  12. Re:surname? neal? by paja · · Score: 2, Funny

    maybe it was Cowboy from Nepal?

  13. Reminds me by mr_goodwin · · Score: 4, Funny

    of a problem a the local government of Scunthorpe (UK) had recently. Their obscenity checker balked at a substring of the town name.....

    1. Re:Reminds me by Capt.+DrunkenBum · · Score: 2, Funny

      As well it should. Imagine having "thor" in the name of your town... No good can come from this.

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      Not everyone deserves a 320i

  14. Dear Trend Customer... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Due to recent a recent bug, any emails containing the letter 'P' have been filtered by an update to our software.

    You can recover your email from the 'Quarantine' folder.

    We are sorry for any confusion this might have caused, and include the missing material below:

    Please insert as required.

    PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP
    pppppppppppppppppppppp

  15. In other news by imtheguru · · Score: 3, Funny

    A certain unnamed tester at Trend Micro was given the _ink sli_

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    A lovely little thinker but a bugger when he's pissed.
    1. Re:In other news by Darth+Hubris · · Score: 3, Funny

      In other news, many folks have been inundated with offers for 'R0n'

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      The party's over ... the drink ... and the luck ... ran out
  16. Re:Just Another rocess by Alan+Partridge · · Score: 2, Funny

    you s_elled both _leasure and _erversion incorrectly

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    That was classic intercourse!
  17. Re:Damn funny by Taurim · · Score: 2, Funny

    There is a broblem with our sbam filtering broduct.

    You should install the latest batch #916 to ubdate your brogram :-)

  18. Re:This work perfectly for SPAM ... by cnvogel · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's not s\0x71am, it's "unsolicited bulk email". Now we know the motivation behind this renaming... ;-)

  19. Correction.. only the 'leading' p by jkrise · · Score: 4, Funny

    is removed, I believe. Here's the effects on some of the mails:

    1. Sent thru Microsoft Assport - your secure login to the e-world.

    2. I assed my MCSE exams.

    3. Laying with colleagues might land you in harassment charges.

    4. All work and no Lay makes Jack ...

    5. Boys and Girls, come out to lay
    The moon does shine as bright as day!

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    If you keep throwing chairs, one day you'll break windows....
  20. Still in beta? by TyrranzzX · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Kidna makes me wonder as to how much time they spend making that and if they even tested it before releasing it...

  21. HTML workaround? by Pall+Agamemnides · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I wonder if you can get around this by writing "P" in HTML code:

    p=&#112
    P=&#80

  22. And...? Some Perspective Please! by vofka · · Score: 5, Insightful

    OK, so Trend issued a ruleset which blocks all mail containing the letter 'P' - one and a half hours later, they fixed the problem, which is pretty good going IMHO.

    I've been using Trend's Desktop solution (OfficeScan) at work for just over a year now, with no problems at all. Trend have a very good reputation for updating their rulesets very very quickly when a new virus hits the wild - for example in the case of "Love Bug" a couple of years back, they had a new pattern file available in less than 45 minutes, where other vendors took 24 to 36 hours.

    Since OfficeScan (and AFAIK, all the Trend Products) can be configured to automatically update their Pattern, Engine and Core files whenever a new version becomes available, that effectively means that all desktop PC's and Servers can be running with suitable pattern files before you even see any incidence of a new virus.

    People need to get some perspective on this issue - Yes, there was a problem, but it's fixed. Trend's product base is very stable, very fast and very effective. One small problem like this is just that: small !

    Disclaimer: No, I don't work for Trend - I'm just a very happy end user

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  23. As someone who actually _uses_ eManager... by nbvb · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, the product has the potential for big-brother type thing (filtering mail, etc...) but we don't use it for any of that.

    #1) We use it along with Viruswall to block incoming viruses (It's a proxy that sits in front of Sendmail for us....) Works really well; we haven't had a virus outbreak in 2+ years. (Lousy Outlook!)

    #2) We use it to filter out Spam. I don't get _any_ Spam at my work address. At all. Very impressive if you ask me!

    Viruswall & eManager are pretty ugly pieces of code, but they do the job. We don't get viruses and don't get Spam, and that's why we use it. :)

    Having said that, this stop-the-P thing is a mess. I just checked our rulefiles, and we jumped from rulefile 914 to 920..... glad to see that ;)

    --DM

    1. Re:As someone who actually _uses_ eManager... by Kphrak · · Score: 2, Informative

      The virus part is fine...but eManager is one of the worst spam products ever invented. No scoring, so mail either goes through or gets blocked without any in-betweens. The out-of-the-box rules must have been written by Jonathan Edwards (for those not up on their history, he was a famous Puritan preacher). There's no HTML cleaning ability; the only way to keep nasty javascripts away is to block javascript (which causes every employee to squawk because they lose all their newsletters). When we use the "auto-update" antispam feature that this article's about, we got a 45% false positive rate. The slightest change (numbers substituted for letters, misspellings, etc) invalidates a setting and lets spam through; it's got to match exactly.

      I've used eManager for two years and am working to get rid of it. Hell, even thinking about eManager will probably block your legit mail and let in the spam.

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  24. So how did the e-mail Read? by pugugly · · Score: 4, Funny

    "We wanted to be as open as possible about this," he said. "In the United States, customers have been contacted directly via e-mail, and we've notified the reseller channel."

    I can see the email now -

    "Due to an error in our most recent update, e-mails containing a certain letter are now blocked. We can't tell you which one. Really. But make sure you u . . . reset your security setting ASA . . err really quickly.

    Listen - just do it right now - this is embarrassing.
    Thank you - Trend Micro"

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    An Invisible Entity of Vast Power whose existence must be taken on faith alone: Liberal Media
  25. Vowels by duguk · · Score: 2, Funny

    me thnks wld b btr 2 rmv th vwls.

    The only emails with vowels are spam... I work at a school. Damn mobile phones.

  26. Re:Our emails get blocked too by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anything that provides cheap and easy acccess to millions of 'potential customers' will always attract morons prepared to abuse the system regardless of the consequences for others. To replace email at this point would be a staggering endeavour with no guarantee the same abuse will not take place with the new system.

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    Do not try to read the dupe, thats impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth
    What truth?
    There is no dupe
  27. You know you are a geek... by greppling · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...when the funniest thing you have read in a while is about a software update causing random e-mail loss...

  28. Re:And now for something completely ... by jpmorgan · · Score: 2, Funny
    I always wondered what Sesame Street would be like if Monty Python bought them!

    This show brought to you by the letter P and a large trout.

  29. Obligatory Simpsons quote by pcaylor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Mr. Burns: Okay, let's make this sporting, Leonard. If you can tell me why I shouldn't fire you without using the letter "E", you can keep your job. Lenny: Ah... okay...um... I'm a good work... guy... Mr. Burns: You're fired. Lenny: But I didn't say--! Mr. Burn: You will... (OPENS TRAP DOOR) Lenny: Eieeeee-e-e-e-e-e-eee!

  30. Not just "P" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    I fall into one of those "low double digit customers".... and even blank emails were getting stripped. As the filter also checks embedded code (RTF, HTML, etc)... even a blank email's gonna have a P in it somewhere... Only exception here was OWA and some Mac users where messages seemingly used plain text for the most part. 2 hour window of all mail gone into the ether. Fun

  31. Actually... by Perdition · · Score: 2, Funny

    They had to retract the use of the letter P due to pending legal action by SCO who claim that they orginally came up with most of the letter P and the number 3 and the semicolon... but the Spelling Community thinks that with proper replacements for the copywrited characters, the whole desperate affair can be largely ignored.

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  32. It's my first-year project in reverse... by Goonie · · Score: 4, Funny
    My first-year C programming project was to read a file and print out a table based on the contents of the file. Everything worked fine, except for some reason it appended a 'p' in a seemingly nondeterministic manner.

    Nobody had bothered to teach us about debuggers at that stage, so we tried our best inserting diagnostic printf's everywhere, but despite days of searching we could never find what was causing it. In the end, we inserted some code to count to where the end of the string should have been and replace the "p" with a null character.

    We got marked down anyway. I still have the source code somewhere, but I haven't dared to look at it for fear of provoking the code gods ... :/

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    Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
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  33. Trend Micro by m0RpHeus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I remember last year that their mail filtering system (I think it's the Interscan antivirus) that would block all messages with "!!!" claiming that it was spam. I knew a lot of people who complained about this because sometimes for informal discussion, to emphasize something you might use "!!!" in your message.

    I just hope Interscan doesn't block slashdot because of this comment. ;)

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  34. Sesame Street would be upset by CryptoLogica · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hmmm...

    Ya think the folks at Sesame Street would be upset by this??

    Brought to you by the folks calling for the release of the letter P :p

  35. Great for swimming pools. by drhill · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have a 2-year-old and a 4-year-old. I would like a filter like that for my swimming pool.

  36. Re:And...? Some Perspective Please! by nautical9 · · Score: 3, Informative
    Agreed - a minor bug that was fixed promptly.

    I'd also like to point out that Trend Micro offers a great free online virus scanner that comes in very handy when you get a call from a friend/relative who's having computer problems. No need to haul over and install your own virus scanner (which is undoubtedly against said virus scanner's EULA anyway) just to find out if they're infected. I can't remember if it actually CLEANS the viruses it finds, but manually removing most viruses isn't all that tough once you know what you're looking for.

    The HouseCall product has also spotted viruses that Norton did not.

  37. Re:And...? Some Perspective Please! by anon*127.0.0.1 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It took them an hour and a half to compose a warning EMail to their customers that didn't have the letter P in in anywhere.

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  38. Dear Trend Micro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dear Trend Micro:

    You guys are oo heads for ushing out this stu id screwed u u date.

    Your develo ment team is a cra y bunch of oor rogrammers and your
    roduct is is ile of cra .

    lease iss off.

    Signed
    U set customer

  39. Re:And...? Some Perspective Please! by iabervon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, it's a minor bug, but how could they possibly have missed it while testing? It's not so much that the bug is a problem as that it indicates that they didn't check whether the patch worked before releasing it.

  40. Re:And...? Some Perspective Please! by lightspawn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    eople need to get some perspective on this issue - Yes, there was a problem, but it's fixed. Trend's product base is very stable, very fast and very effective. One small problem like this is just that: small !

    Agreed, it is a small problem - but it's a very funny one.

    Most of us don't have that much going for us in our lives, especially after the bubble burst - can we just have some fun with this please?

  41. QA? WHAT QA? by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Whoever did the QA on this product is good as fired.

    I can't believe they didn't send the classic "the quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog". Back when I was doing QA, if there was a text field, I'd fill it to the gunnels with stuff like that.

    The programming error was stupid, but things happen - that's why you have a QA Team.

    It's also an example why it's important to have QA do something other than run matrices and automated test scripts. Those only get what they're scripted to catch, and that's not where the "critical fumbles" occur.

    It's gonna take a while for them to live THIS one down.

    Ralphie

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  42. The missing resumes by EggMan2000 · · Score: 2, Funny

    We used Trend Micros product on Exchange and suddenly noticed that it was dumping a lot of resumes into the trash as they came in. And it was only the best resumes that it was trashing.

    Want to guess what was offensive?

    "Magna Cum Laude"

    Umm, how funny is that?

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  43. customers contacted via email by yuri+benjamin · · Score: 2, Funny

    From the article : In the United States, customers have been contacted directly via e-mail

    Does the email sent to customers contain the letter P? How can one describe the problem without using the letter P?

    "There is a problem^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hissue with emails containing the 16th letter of the alp^Hfabet. You are advised to update^H^H^H^H^H^Hdownload the latest patch^H^H^H^H^Hfix from our website at http://w^Hoh damn!"

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