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Gator Examined

Ben Perry writes "News.com.com has a story about a Harvard researcher's study on how Gator operates. The report 'provides some data as to how much advertising Gator is showing and to whom it is targeted' and focuses on where Gator replaces a site's ads with Gator's ads. Gator is facing several lawsuits because of this technique."

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  1. Well, duh! by jred · · Score: 3, Interesting

    There is absolutely nothing in that article that is news to anyone here. Well, except maybe the fact that Sun uses Gator to advertise. I wouldn't have thought they'd stoop that low, especially since many people boycott companies that use services such as Gator to advertise.

    I guess it really doesn't matter if I boycott Sun, though. I'm much more likely to implement a Linux solution than a Sun solution. It's all about the Benjamins, and I don't generally do work for companies with unlimited (or even moderately deep) pockets.

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  2. Analogy by donscarletti · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It seems to me that willfully installing gator on ones computer is like attaching one of those electronic dog training collars on ones self. It is something that does very little for you (its form filling capibilities are limited and pretty worthless) and allows its controller to zap you with really annoying little irritations.

    Frankly I am vehemetly against loosing my computing freedom but I would very happily choose to loose the freedom to write exploitive parasiteware that does not help the user one bit.

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  3. Gator vs. GAIN by dunar · · Score: 5, Interesting

    In my experience, Gator is not as much of a problem as GAIN (Gator Advertising & Information Network) - where Gator is the e-wallet, GAIN is the ad (spy) ware. Getting rid of Gator isn't so hard, but removing GAIN involves removing the application its using - for most Windows users this would mean removing IE, and we all know how difficult that can be...

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  4. Gator is a program to slow your computer down by wadiwood · · Score: 3, Interesting

    My friend bought a new computer and after about 3 months it was running very very slowly. I removed Gator and some other stuff and computer perked up instantly. Well after about 4 reboots.

    A customer installed it on his computer and several programs including application I support ceased to function, and these were the apps he needed to do his job. The only way we could fix it was to re-image the hard drive.

    My friend's staff installed some sort of calendar tool and gator came with that. Personally I can't think of any reason to install it. The last thing I'd want to do is hand my passwords to anything that sends my information back over the internet. How would I know that it wasn't sending my passwords too?

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  5. Trusting Gator by Musashi+Miyamoto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't really trust Gator at all, but if you a have an effective popup blocker, the software is actually really nice. Not only does it remember your passwords and forms, but it can fill in a form, even if you have never visited the page before. It has enough intelligence to know to put your address into a form that has a slot that says "Address" or "Address #1", and your last name in a form slot that says "Last Name" or "Sirname" or "Full Name".

    If it were available for a fee without the adware/spyware, I would buy it.

  6. Gator's Intranet by pchown · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Interesting, I went to look at www.gator.com, but the first time round I typed gator.com instead. Apparently Gator has a Debian mirror, but you can't access it from the outside. (No doubt it will disappear soon after it gets Slashdotted.)

  7. Gator by Choice, WTF? by asv108 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People actually use gator on purpose? Who is this a Gator developer? Really, if you want password management you should be using Mozilla. Anyone that supports a business model based on spyware should be drug out on the street and shot. Why would anyone be using IE these days unless they were forced to by their employer?

    1. Re:Gator by Choice, WTF? by bheerssen · · Score: 4, Interesting

      1. Gator monitors your web surfing habits and uploads that information to their database. That information is then, presumably, sold. They claim they do not record personally identifiable information, but URLs often contain identity strings which can be cross-referenced.

      2. Gator throws annoying advertisements at you, even going to the point of showing you advertisements from certain companies when you view their competitors' websites (eg: seeing FedEx ads when you view the UPS website). They are currently in some hot water over this practice.

      It has yet to be determined that #2 is illegal, but it seems unethical at best. Given that Gator engages in at least one unethical action, how are we to believe they would not engage in other unethical or illegal actions, especially as regards to point #1 (above)?

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  8. Other Programs... by TheMayor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It would be interesting to see what other popular "helper" applications like Gator do. For example, I see plenty of people in my work place with WeatherBug or WebShots installed on their computers. They have to be collecting information and replacing ads much like Gator does.

    1. Re:Other Programs... by fact0r · · Score: 3, Interesting
      I find new.net the nastiest. It installs itself in your TCP/IP stack and if you remove it manually (by deleting it) it breaks your network stack.

      At one stage Ad-aware removed the new.net file without correctly uninstalling it (thus breaking your network connection).

      New.net is one of the dodgiest companies out there - their site suggests that they sell legitimate domain names - unfortunately they don't sell domain names in real TLDs. Their dodgy bit of software makes domain names with non-real TLDs (which they sell) work.