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ReplayTV May Drop "Commercial Advance"

An anonymous reader writes "Wired News is reporting that the new owners of ReplayTV are considering dropping the Commercial Advance and Send Show options features." I had bad luck with that function chopping out bits of show anyway. Between that and the 30 second skip function, I'm surprised ReplayTV has lasted this long!

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  1. Another crippled product by AtariAmarok · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've thought of Tivo and Replay TV in the past, but as time goes on the companies degrade their products by getting rid of useful features like this.

    How feasable is it to do something as good, but without the crippling, on a computer with a large hard disk and good video card?

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    1. Re:Another crippled product by TrueBuckeye · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I love my RTV, and I'd still buy another even if they stripped out CA. As long as I can still pull the shows off to my pc and burn them to DVD, I'll use it. BUT, if they keep taking out these features, then they are removing the exact thing which makes them different (superior?) to Tivo. I hope D&M know what they are doing...other than avoiding lawsuits.

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    2. Re:Another crippled product by wherley · · Score: 4, Informative

      you mean like this?

    3. Re:Another crippled product by mac123 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I must be a bit confused. Which features has Tivo removed from my system?

      I can't think of one.

  2. Before the flames begin. by Mononoke · · Score: 4, Insightful
    You do know that advertising is what pays for TV programming, broadcasting, etc., in the USofA, don't you?

    Would you rather have cat^H^H^HTV detector vans running around?

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    1. Re:Before the flames begin. by kwerle · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Funny how capitalism works. If enough folks skipped ads (not bloody likely), shows/networks would find another way to get funding. Or they would die. Either way is just fine.

    2. Re:Before the flames begin. by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 4, Insightful
      You do know that advertising is what pays for TV programming, broadcasting, etc., in the USofA, don't you? Would you rather have cat^H^H^HTV detector vans running around?

      Not really, but I don't think that's necessary. Look at HBO's model, or any other specialzied subscription-based channel.

      I've been dying to select exactly the cable channels I want for years. It seems vastly preferable - to me, anyways - to pay $40/month for 8-12 channels that I actually like, through and through. Of course the media giants are all-too aware of this; after all, they watch TV too. You can't shovel your pap in with the good stuff if people have the power to only receive the good stuff, and filter out the pap.

      As for Replay... these companies have got to stop with the fucking bait-and-switch routine. This is the precise reason I'll never consider a subscription-based PVR. It was too easy to see it coming. It's also too easy to just buy the parts for the computer that I need to make it happen there. (Where it belongs, IMHO.)

      Look, I sympathize a bit with the broadcasters, they have some tough questions and sitations to answer. But that's the extent: a bit. I don't care a lot, nor should you. TV will not 'go away' any more than music will. The presupposition that without this one specific economic model for media dissemination, we'll all be without any art whatsoever, is ludicrous.

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  3. "Respecting the intent of copyright"? by tuffy · · Score: 4, Funny
    If the "intent of copyright", according to ReplayTV, is to play shows the way the network intended, why not show them only at the times they were intended also. For example, if "Brand new episode of series Foo" is airing at 7pm wednesday May 28th, ReplayTV can "respect the intent of copyright" and show it only at 7pm on wednesday May 28th.

    I'm sure it'll be a big hit.

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  4. Re:ReplayTV Yo-Yo by TBone · · Score: 4, Informative

    The V4 software for Tivo supports the USB Ethernet cards. The one I just bought was V3 software, so I had a phone cord running across the house for 3 or 4 days until it got the V4 download. And I bought a Replay over Tivo, just because of their stand against the Media companies...but the product just doesn't compare. Changing channels is ass-slow, there's no multi-user guide/preference setup, nothign other than the cool sharing feature, which is likely going away. Go for the Tivo, you'll be ahppier.

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  5. Re:ReplayTV Yo-Yo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, the new TiVo kernel (4.0+) finally makes use of the USB ports in the back. You can connect either a Wireless or Wired Ethernet device (http://customersupport.tivo.com/tivoknowbase/root /public/tv2006.htm?) and you are good to go. I do this with my TiVo and wouldn't go back to regular TV, ever.

  6. MythTV and Freevo by jared_hanson · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Software solutions such as MythTV and Freevo (both run on Linux) require fairly hefty hardware to do the encoding of TV to MPEG-2, MPEG-4, etc. Then they need to decode it to play it to the screen. Both encoding and decoding is necessary in order to do the time shift.

    However, MythTV is leading the charge to offload this processing to the WinTV PVR cards, freeing up the system CPU for other stuff, or just allowing the user to scrape by with minimum requirements. So the feasability is improving quite rapidly right now.

    MythTV has also been doing some impressive work on their GUI (check out the screenshots). This was one area I previously thought Freevo had a leg up on, but that advantage is going away.

    Links:
    MythTV
    Freevo

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  7. This is why you roll your own PVR. by IpSo_ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I believe there was a Ask Slashdot a few weeks ago regarding building your own PVR. The majority of the comments seemed say "Why bother, just buy a TIVO/Replay TV, its already done for."

    Well, this is why you roll your own. Yes, its a little more work, the cost is pretty much the same, but there is no monthly fee, and features don't get yanked out from under you.

    MythTV is absolutely amazing, and its evolving incredibly fast. If your lookinng for a PVR, I recommend giving it a shot.

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    1. Re:This is why you roll your own PVR. by Musashi+Miyamoto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A little more work? Installing a TIVO is absolutely brain dead. Think of this in terms of a non-computer person you know... Maybe your parents.

      Tivo has:
      - No install of Linux, software, libraries.
      - no install of cards
      - Customer support if you cant figure out how to plug it into your TV (the truely braindead)
      - Comes with all the cables

      Some of us are Unix admins at work and can write their own Myth TV if they wanted, but DON'T WANT TO. TV is supposed to be a relaxing veg-your-brain "activity". Most people don't want to have to think about it.

      Have you seen the FAQ on Myth TV?
      Compare these questions and nswers to the "plug it in" install of Tivo:

      I get an error when compiling about 'mkspecs'?
      You need to set QTDIR. On Debian, it should be /usr/share/qt. On Mandrake, it should be /usr/lib/qt3

      I can't change the channel when watching TV?
      Something's wrong with your program database. Did filldata run with no major errors?

      When is the last time Tech Support over at Tivo asked a user "Did you make sure that /usr/local/lib is in /etc/ld.so.conf and then re-run ldconfig?"

    2. Re:This is why you roll your own PVR. by nbvb · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bless your heart, Sir.

      You Get It (tm).

      This is why I'm a Sun/HP-UX admin by day, but a DirecTiVo/Mac user at night.

      I like things that Just Work (tm).

  8. not perfect by chill182 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The commercial skip works great on sitcoms that are on the main network stations. That's about it. On TechTV and G4 it doesn't skip past the long commericals (video professor, that air filter thing). On dramas like 24, Buffy or Alias it skips too far, requiring me to rewind several minutes. I probably use commercial skip on about 1/4th of all my recorded shows.

  9. Re:ReplayTV Yo-Yo by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 4, Informative

    TiVo had built-in support for USB ethernet well before Version 4 came out...version 4 of the software just added an "official" interface menu where you can pick static IP/DHCP.

    I bought my Series 2 last year when they were still at version 3. All you had to do was plug in the USB ethernet adapter and set the dialing prefix to #401. My TiVo has *never* touched a phone line - it's been ethernet only since day 1.

  10. Why is this controversial? by rubinson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'm a bit confused as to why commercial skip/advance has become so controversial all of a sudden. VCRs have had these features for years: Panasonic, Sony. So why is this a big deal when it comes to PVRs?

  11. Don't overlook SageTV by gatekeep · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm noticing a lot of posts along the line of 'This is why you should use MythTV..'

    Don't overlook SageTV!

    While it's not free, nor open source, it's the most incredible PC-based PVR I've seen to date. At only $59.95, it's a bargain. Program guide data is FREE! Upgrades are FREE! And the pace of development has been outstanding.

    In it's current build, it supports;
    - Multi-tuner, multi-lineup recording (satellite on one card, cable on the other.. or two cable captures, or five.. whatever.)
    - Recording to either Mpeg2 or Mpeg1 format (for easier portability to DVD-R or VCD.)
    - Network streaming to other PCs
    - Automatic recording of favorites, as well as suggestions based on your viewing history (which is easily disabled.)
    - XMLTV listings import (if for some reason, free listings aren't good enough for you.)
    - Dscaler support and plugins (much better quality than MythTV, Tivo, or Replay on my HDTV.)
    - Audio library management..

    Features they're saying will come 'soon' include;
    - HDTV Support
    - DVD Playback

    It's not free, but it's definitely a value. The way the guys at Frey Technologies are adding features is just unbelievable. Sometimes, free solutions are not the best.