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NYC: Leverage Fiber, Offer Free Wi-Fi

gpmap writes "A new study from the New York City Council is recommending that the Big Apple throw open the competitive bidding process for its annual $130 million phone and Internet bill in order to leverage one of the most expansive -- and underused -- fiber optic networks in the country. In so doing, New York City could not only cut its annual telecom bill, but would also be in a position to deploy wireless networking links as the "last mile" connecting metropolitan area networks, or MANs. In addition, it suggested using the fiber to deploy free Internet access with a Wi-Fi Network in Brooklyn's Prospect Park."

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  1. Someone has to say it by luzrek · · Score: 3, Funny

    Guess that brings a whole new meaning to MANhattin.

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  2. then we'll be all set for the second depression by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    ..sleeping on a park bench, clutching my wireless internet handheld still displaying slashdot's latest before I dozed off to another night spent sleeping in the streets

  3. How does one police anonymous access? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's say free access happens. What happens when people start using it (in mass) to conduct fraud, send death threats to the President, start a boutique email spam business, etc.

    1. Re:How does one police anonymous access? by terraformer · · Score: 5, Interesting

      You can't. It is a twist on the tragedy of the commons and it will likely never happen. There is no reason why some form of municipal access system couldn't happen though. /. has done some recent articles on them.

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    2. Re:How does one police anonymous access? by pecosdave · · Score: 4, Funny

      hopefully this doesn't start some sort of national MAC address registry, I'm having a hard enough time protecting my guns.

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    3. Re:How does one police anonymous access? by Mad+Bad+Rabbit · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Let's say free access happens. What happens when people start using it (in mass) to conduct fraud, send death threats to the President, start a boutique email spam business, etc.

      "Free" doesn't have to mean anonymous; they should probably make people sign up for accounts beforehand, so they can verify you're a NYC resident and enforce appropriate terms of service, etc.

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  4. about time by pigscanfly.ca · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is one thing I never understand about goverments , they lock them selves into a contract and keep on renewing it without looking for cheaper alternatives . In ottawa city counsil finally woke up and founded ottawa telecom to use there power company ROW on the poles to do there own direct fiber (for cheaper inet access for schools , libraries and city goverment with medium prices for other business) .
    Now I see NY is takeing the first step , looking for a competitor to verizon (the incumbant I'm guessing) ; as a sort of after thought why dont they see how well they could serve there own needs as well (not sugesting that they just go it alone but if its cheaper why not?) .

    I sincerly whish best of luck to NY with there future projects.

    Note : in this post NY = NYC

    1. Re:about time by bethanie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Well, in politics it's all about power, money, and relationships. A politician getting into bed with one company for a "long-term, monogamous relationship" is going to yield him a lot more leverage (favors owed him) than if that company knows they're gonna have to woo him all over again in 3 years' time. And when the company knows they've got "a man on the inside," they in turn can leverage their resources to make sure he stays in office.

      Open up the bidding process and the decision making just got a lot more risky for the incumbent parties -- the winning bidder has got to perform or lose their contract, and the politician responsible for giving them the contract could lose his job. I think it will make him a lot more picky about making sure that whoever wins the contract will truly be the organization that will do the best job.

      ....Bethanie....

    2. Re:about time by Cyberdyne · · Score: 2, Informative
      Well, in politics it's all about power, money, and relationships. A politician getting into bed with one company for a "long-term, monogamous relationship" is going to yield him a lot more leverage (favors owed him) than if that company knows they're gonna have to woo him all over again in 3 years' time. And when the company knows they've got "a man on the inside," they in turn can leverage their resources to make sure he stays in office.

      On a less cynical note, a lot of companies give significant discounts for long-term commitment. Provision a big (150+Mbps) connection from British Telecom in the UK, for example, and they'll reduce the charge by 20% for a 4 year contract. (Since the prices start at over $1m/yr, that 20% is quite significant...) Of course, this can look like a lousy deal two years down the road...

      (Being a former state-owned monopoly - until 1984, it was illegal to compete with them - BT are required by the regulator to publish every price they offer. In the US, this obligation applies to every telco anyway, under FCC regs, but the filed tariffs aren't online, only displayed in the FCC library IIRC.)

    3. Re:about time by FunkyMarcus · · Score: 2, Informative

      In the US, this obligation applies to every telco anyway, under FCC regs, but the filed tariffs aren't online, only displayed in the FCC library IIRC.

      Verizon publishes their tariffs online.

      The NYS Public Service Commission also publishes tariffs of some of the utilities they regulate online, although Verizon's are not currently among those available.

      By law, you can always obtain a copy of any publicly-regulated utility's tariff. Contact the utility or your state's PSC, PUC, or other regulator. If not available online, you should be able to receive information through the mail. Since when has "online" become the yardstick of availability?

      Mark

  5. Like its already being done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful



    There are many wifi hotspots in downtown manhattan, and areas of brooklyn and other boroughs. The internet cafes have them. And slashdot has carried stories on private individuals providing wifi connectivity in nyc ad nauseum.

    If the terrorists haven't brought down the world from a nyc wifi connection yet, what makes you think this would be a tremendous problem now?

  6. NYCWireless.net by rtnz · · Score: 2, Informative

    You can also check out nycwireless.net mailing list for more discussions on this.

    L

  7. in case you need it by CowBovNeal · · Score: 5, Informative

    NYC: Leverage Fiber, Offer Free Wi-Fi
    By Erin Joyce

    A new study from the New York City Council is recommending that the Big Apple throw open the competitive bidding process for its annual $130 million phone and Internet bill in order to leverage one of the most expansive -- and underused -- fiber optic networks in the country.

    In so doing, New York City could not only cut its annual telecom bill, but would also be in a position to deploy wireless networking links as the "last mile" connecting metropolitan area networks, or MANs (define). In addition, it suggested using the fiber to deploy free Internet access with a Wi-Fi (define) Network in Brooklyn's Prospect Park.

    Prepared by Council Speaker Gifford Miller and Councilman Gale Brewer, who chairs the council's select committee on technology in government, the report is entitled "Network NYC: Building the Broadband City."

    With the rapidly unfolding maturation of wireless and fiber optic technologies, along with a glut of fiber optics lines left over from the telecom bubble, the use of network pricing that can reduce current and future telecom costs is expanding, the report said.

    The 22-page study, released Thursday, recommends that the Mayor's office competitively bid "the city's $130 million annual phone and Internet bill -- 75 percent of which has been historically provided as a sole source contract to Verizon."

    Verizon has held the annual contract for decades, according to a city official.

    The report suggested the move would help address the city's ongoing fiscal crisis, which was already reeling from a recession before Sept. 11.

    "Without competition, and with Verizon's lock on 75 percent of the City's telecom bill, the Comptroller's Office repeatedly has asked a basic question: how can New York City be assured that it is getting the best telecom rates and services if it is not soliciting multiple bids in a rigorous, open market process?"

    A Verizon spokesman was not available for comment by presstime.

    New York City is the largest municipal buyer of telecommunications goods and services in the U.S., said the report. In addition, it said the Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications (DoITT) manages franchise agreements for 21 separate fiber-optic companies -- more companies holding more high capacity metropolitan fiber than in any other city, as well as a portfolio of over 2,220 municipal rooftops potentially ripe for wireless deployments.

    Yet "there has been little public discussion or long term strategic thinking about how the city could better organize this public and private infrastructure to encourage a truly citywide deployment of affordable, high speed networking capacity," the report said.

    It also criticized the lack of coordination among so many fiber-rich departments within the city. Locally, for example, New York City already essentially owns, operates and manages, an albeit limited fiber network known as the Institutional Network, or I-Net.

    In addition, "and as a further indication of the lack of coordinated telecom planning in the City, several [city] agencies, DOT, and the New York Public Library (NYPL), operate their own separate fiber networks for transmitting large amounts of data and/or as backhaul networks for Internet traffic."

    It also cited an example of neighborhoods with several bandwidth-rich municipal buildings clustered nearby. Typically, the firehouses, police precincts, library branches and other government offices are all connected separately via the telephone companies' network, with multiple T-1 lines, "that cost anywhere between $400 and $1,200 each."

    Instead, the report suggested, with "secure, point to multi-point wireless last mile or last hundred feet links, however, the tallest municipal building in a given area can distribute bandwidth wirelessly to all the various municipal sites off of the one building's fiber backbone." In effect, the building itself would become a Point of Presence (define)

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  8. A community-based model to last mile broadband by ebusinessmedia1 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check out TeloPhase Communication Networks http://www.telophase.org

    They've come up with one of the best models yet for utilizing community-based 'communicative capital' as leverage for increasing broadband.

    They have a position paper here (recently solicited by the FCC)

    http://www.telophase.org/Library_Files/FCC-Reque st .pdf

    Also there is good information available for their business case http://www.telophase.org/Library_Files/TeloPhase_C ommunity-Based_Networks_BP.pdf

    and a presentation that goes into elementary detail on the model, here -
    http://www.telophase.org/Library_Files/TeloPhas e_C ommunity-Based_Networks_Presentation.pdf

    It's entirely possible for communities to take control of their citizen's communicative assets, turn those assets into 'community capital', and keep communication-based profits at home, rather than sending those profits to large communication conglomerates who are attempting to recover from broken telecom models at the consumer's expense.

    If the political will is there, the TeloPhase model, and others similar to it, are the future and hope of universal broadband.

    1. Re:A community-based model to last mile broadband by ebusinessmedia1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      One more thing: This group has lobbied several Congressional principals; Joe Lieberman - D-CT, Barbara Boxer - D-CA; George Allen - R-GA, and John McCain - R-AZ. Many senior staffers have been very impressed with this model.

      One example:
      Consider that a community could put into play a wireless network that taps into already-existing backbone fiber.

      Newer technologies from companies like Vivato, Proxim and Motorola[Canopy] (with more on the way) would permit universal broadband (with no truck rolls!) within a very short time.

      The city would be able to employ local IT skill, take a portion (80%) of the subscriber profits, and roll that revenue over to finish out fiber deployment (if they decided that this was a prudent thing to do).

      The TeloPhase model makes more semse than anything I've seen, as a hopeful model for the *fast* deployment of universal municipal broadband.

  9. Verizon is based there. Good luck by Billly+Gates · · Score: 5, Informative
    Verizon will be extremely pissed about this. They will throw everything they have to prevent it. Maybe even sue as well as continue the usual heavy lobbing the baby bells are known for.

    Rememeber they paid for laying the fibers so they can service the financial industry based in lower manhattan. In their opinion its their god given right to protect their assets at all costs. There is even a building with the old bell labs logo still on that is visual from the brooklynn bridge. I believe that one is owned by AT&T today and yes they also laid hundreds of miles of fiber there as well.

    1. Re:Verizon is based there. Good luck by ebusinessmedia1 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Billly Gates writes: "Verizon will be extremely pissed about this. They will throw everything they have to prevent it. Maybe even sue as well as continue the usual heavy lobbing the baby bells are known for."
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      You're right. And that's where 'political will' comes in. Politicians, municipal leaders, and the Congress would have to be willing to stand up and recognize that there is a clear value in giving municipalities the right to operate their own networks. There are clear precedents for this with municipally-run utilities. Structurally, this is a no-brianer.

      A clear case that can be made for citizens 'owning' the 'communicative assets' that they represent. Why shouldn't citizens, and the communities that represent them, decide where the profits from the use of their 'communicative assets' (represented as communicative capital) go?

      This is a basic question, and it will have a signifiacant impact on whether America ever experiences optimal efficiencies and economies form universal broadband.

      As of today, universal, affordable, broadband deployment has been mostly *constrained* by the major telecommunications groups. That's something to consider, and do something about.

      It comes down to who owns your capacity to communicate.

    2. Re:Verizon is based there. Good luck by Have+Blue · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well... Isn't it their God-given right? Why shouldn't they own the fibre? They put up the cost of laying it in the first place, and unless they did it under contract no one else has any claim of ownership. US law requires them to fairly compensate Verizon if they want its property, it can't just be nationalized on command.

    3. Re:Verizon is based there. Good luck by ebusinessmedia1 · · Score: 2, Informative

      What's lost in the argument over who 'owns' fibre infrastructure is the fact that American taxplayers have subsidized much of its installation.

      What's astounding is that many companies, having gained the permission to tap the communication resources of a community through that community's legal procedures, should then be able to hold that community hostage to pricing models that have no basis in current reality.

      For instance, consider that the cost of bulk broadband to feed DSL has dropped almost 80% in the last several years. Have we seen a concomitant drop in DSL prices? This points to just *one* of the problems that we (America) faces if we give over the right to control broadband distribution to the telecommunications majors.

  10. Re:then we'll be all set for the Adrian Lamo life by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There probably won't be any large scale free and uncontrollable internet access in the US for any foreseeable future.

    1: Nothing is free. Especially not in NYC

    2: Anything that can be exploited for profit or crime, will be. Especially in NYC

    3: With untracable and encrypted cell phones being prevented from being available the US even BEFORE 9/11, and with the political climate changes of today, the chance would be slim for a free, mobile and anonymous Internet, sponsored by those in power. Especially in NYC.

    Sure, they may throw up a few access points here and there, usable by those who pay and register to use it. That's as far as it's likely to go. Your average homeless person won't be able to use it any more than he'll be able to vote -- i.e. only in theory, but not in practice.

    Of more interest is the proposal to cut costs by offering up the phone and Internet infrastructure reorganization to the "open" market. What will this mean in savings, how will it affect the current providers, what will it do for connectivity, and how low can the QoS be pushed by the new private interests before it becomes painful? The states and cities need to cut costs where they can, and using something that already exists is a good thing. It doesn't, however, imply that there will be service improvements.

  11. Mod Parent Up! by weston · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "Free" doesn't have to mean anonymous;

    Absolutely true. That's the most convenient model -- you walk in the park, you're assigned an IP via DHCP, presto -- but that doesn't have to be the way it is. You may have to signup, just like I did for my local library. And that's OK with me.

    Something else: the terms of service can also be enforced technically -- that is, what you're free to do can be constrained. You could throttle port 25 for each computer, for example, or watch for certain traffic patterns that suggest a kind of attack...

  12. In similar idea of "last mile" solutions, by jeanicinq · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We could lobby the New York State to implement Internet repeaters that are strictly based on longitude and latitude. Most repeaters need some sort of Internet Protocol address as assignable by the I.A.N.A. organization. The longitude and latitude designation would deploy an independant solution. Any New Yorker could localize there connection without signage to commerical Internet Service Provider if logitude and latitude were is use as the address that wiresless devices use within its headers. [I won't bore you with the details.]

    We need to re-establish the non-commerical Internet carriers; the "last mile" is the place. Lets not re-learn the same old lesson, as we did with cable systems that say they own equipment that we more than completely bought.

  13. RTFA by LMariachi · · Score: 4, Informative
    "...the Department of Information Technology and Telecommunications (DoITT) manages franchise agreements for 21 separate fiber-optic companies..."

    "Other suggestions in the report said that excess fiber capacity built as a consequence of city funding should be open to third parties at competitive wholesale rates."

    Nobody's nationalizing (or even municipalizing) anything. Lines laid under contract are exactly what's being discussed.

    Verizon is in the picture not because anyone wants to take over their property, but because they've been getting a sweetheart deal from the city; the City Council wants to open the bidding for its telcom contracts while leveraging all that underutilized fiber at the city's disposal. Instead of soliciting bids for full service, laying new lines, etc, they'd be soliciting bids to provide services over that existing fiber. Hopefully those contracts will carry obligations to provide free public service as well, the same way real estate development permits are often contingent on the developer providing public park space or low-income units or expanding a subway station.