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Futuremark Replies to Nvidia's Claims

Nathan writes "Tero Sarkkinen, Executive Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Futuremark, has commented on the claims by Nvidia that 3DMark2003 intentionally puts the GeforceFX in bad light, after Nvidia had declined becoming a member of Futuremark's beta program. This issue looks like it will get worse before it gets better." ATI also seems to be guilty of tweaking their drivers to recognize 3DMark.

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  1. FP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Microsoft Rules you cockjockeys.
    Get a job, you know, money is good.

    1. Re:FP by Jayanef · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Get a life
      Microsoft doesn't rule me

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  2. cg6 * by norculf · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    bleh

  3. Slashdot replies to Goatse's claims by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Suck my nuts!

  4. Tero Sarkkinen by ih8apple · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    If anyone is interested in publicly communicating with Tero Sarkkinen, he has been known to monitor this forum. (He's also posted there...)

  5. Re:nVidia vs. ATI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    this is troll tuesday. take your lame-ass posts elsewhere.

  6. Biased Reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Why has NVidia become the whipping boy around here lately?

    Slashdot Headlines:

    Monday: NVIDIA CHEATS!
    Tuesday: NVIDIA IS THE DEVIL!
    Wednesday: HOLY FUCK IS NVIDIA SCUM
    Thurday: NVIDIA CARDS WILL MAKE YOU DEAF AND BLIND
    Friday: NVIDIA RAPES YOUR CHILDREN!!
    Saturday: NVIDIA IS PRICE GOUGING!
    Sunday: NVIDIA STILL CHEATS (oh yeah & maybe ati)

    1. Re:Biased Reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

      Biased reporting?
      You must be new here...

  7. Re:The real reason this is important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    do you practice being lame, or are you just a natural?

  8. Re:nVidia vs. ATI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Just because it's not funny to you doesn't mean it's a troll.

  9. Fine Trolling My Friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Moderation +1
    40% Troll
    30% Insightful
    30% Interesting
    Extra 'Troll' Modifier 0 (Edit)
    Karma-Bonus Modifier +1 (Edit)
    Total Score: 3

    Mod Point Eating Powerhouse
    All Hail Troll Tuesday!

  10. Slashdot is in trouble? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Look at how many stories are making the front page in a given day... it's ridiculous. The content in most is too weak to be front page fodder, but the editors are making a common amateur's mistake and think that dynamicism through quantity will attract eyes more often, therefore providing additional views of the banner ads.

    The reality is that such tactics water down the product and drive potential subscriptions and future ad-views away.

  11. Slashdot may be in trouble... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    Look at how many stories are making the front page in a given day... it's bordering on ridiculous. The content in most is too weak to be front page fodder, but the editors are making a common amateur's mistake and think that dynamicism through quantity will attract eyes more often, therefore providing additional views of the banner ads.

    The reality is that such tactics water down the product and drive potential subscriptions and future ad-views away.

  12. Re:Actually it's a pretty poor DX9 benchmark. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    The parent post only received a 2? Come on mods, this is very informative. The link proves 3DMark03 is a piece of shit in the first place.

  13. Re:nVidia vs. ATI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic

    1. Collect underpants
    2. ???
    3. Profit!

  14. OK, here comes the clue by four by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    If the government had a clue ,they would sue or FORCE all the major software and hardware companies to open up their source code for compatibility with other Operating systems and other software.

    Of course, because we all know that no R&D effort goes into those drivers. That's why performance goes up so much with good ones. And releasing the code to those good ones, thus giving away any performance-enhancing algorithms developed during the aforementioned R&D, would in no way competitively disadvantage the company concerned.

    It would be beneficial to the user community if the interface specs for these cards were made available by the manufacturers, thus allowing those prepared to put in the effort to write drivers for, say, Linux. But whether to release the actual code for their own drivers, thus probably getting a massive amount of support and quick bug fixes from the geek community but also exposing them to competitive damage, is a commercial decision, and the legal system has no business making commercial decisions.

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  15. Re:Driver strategies by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    where are my mod points where I need them! thanks John for the (as usual) insightful post...

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  16. Yeah, well I'm still pissed at ya Johnny! by digitalwanderer · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Nice explanation, care to explain how to blindside a company & community on an unfair benchmark on the same day nVidia was pimping their fraudulently inflated 3dm2k3 scores?

    That wasn't the big story that day, the big story was how the 5900 FX "creamed" the 9800 Pro at a secretely released benchmark...secretely released to nVidia. :mad:

    Was it a karma thing over the alpha leak? That's about the only reason I could understand/forgive. :(

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  17. Re:Driver strategies by njord · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I hope you're joking - aside from the fact that each generation of game engine is preceeded by an id game (the guts of which certainly owe much to John), Warren Spector (one of the designers of Deus Ex) and company licensed the Unreal engine from Epic.

    Spector and Carmack do different things, just like Deus Ex is a very different game from anything id has done so far. Spector designs games - and does it well - but he doesn't write the engines. Carmack writes engines - and well, I might add. These are two different people making strides in different areas of gaming.

    njord
  18. Re:The real reason this is important. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Offtopic
    It is official. Netcraft now confirms: *BSD is dying

    One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *BSD community when IDC confirmed that *BSD market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *BSD has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *BSD is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

    You don't need to be a Kreskin to predict *BSD's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *BSD faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *BSD because *BSD is dying. Things are looking very bad for *BSD. As many of us are already aware, *BSD continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

    FreeBSD is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core developers. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time FreeBSD developers Jordan Hubbard and Mike Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: FreeBSD is dying.

    Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.

    OpenBSD leader Theo states that there are 7000 users of OpenBSD. How many users of NetBSD are there? Let's see. The number of OpenBSD versus NetBSD posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 NetBSD users. BSD/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of NetBSD posts. Therefore there are about 700 users of BSD/OS. A recent article put FreeBSD at about 80 percent of the *BSD market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 FreeBSD users. This is consistent with the number of FreeBSD Usenet posts.

    Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, FreeBSD went out of business and was taken over by BSDI who sell another troubled OS. Now BSDI is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.

    All major surveys show that *BSD has steadily declined in market share. *BSD is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *BSD is to survive at all it will be among OS dilettante dabblers. *BSD continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, *BSD is dead.

    Fact: *BSD is dying