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San Mehat On Web Services & .Net

A reader writes: "There's an interview with San Mehat in regards to .Net & Webservices. He has some interesting comments about what will work and what won't work, and where things are going." San is well known for his Netwinder work, as well as being a good DJ. And, in the interest of full disclosure, San does work for VA Software, the parent company of OSDN, as is DevChannel.

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  1. Re:Make .NET Open Source by jinglecat · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Are you new?

    The term "microsoft" and "open source" are junxtapositions of each other in the same sentence. /eyeroll

  2. Re:Make .NET Open Source by njcoder · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I think it would benefit Microsoft if they made the framework for .NET open source. The dedication and expertise of the Open Source developer community would greatly enhance the reputation of .NET, leading to wider global deployment.
    You have absolutely no concept of what the rest of the world (non open source groupies) think do you?
  3. Re:Used it already by sheldon · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What do you mean by not that special?

    It isn't supposed to be special, it's just supposed to be easier than writing custom HTTP parsers.

    As for not being worth it, I guess I'm curious what you suggest as an alternative?

  4. Re:My problem with .NET by DogIsMyCoprocessor · · Score: 3, Insightful
    And I can't believe you mention hating a crappy IDE, and loving Java in the same breath. Java has had the worst collection of IDEs EVER.

    -1, uninformed flamebait

    Name a Microsoft product that has the refactoring features of the Eclipse IDE, or IntelliJ.

    Notepad and command line was the only way to be productive.

    -1, uninformed flamebait

    Even in the early days of Java development, only a mor^H^Hasochist would use Notepad to write Java code when several free syntax-highlighting auto-indenting text editors were available.

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    "And this is my boy, Sherman. Speak, Sherman." "Hello." "Good boy."

  5. Re:My problem with .NET by Frostalicious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No offense why are you working with vb.net?

    Don't underestimate the power of the dark side. Put another way, when the suits say the whole team will use VB.Net, and when you are not independently wealthy, that's what you use.

    Anyways, after using various incarnations of VB for about 7 years, I don't really mind it anymore. I started as a C++ programmer and thought VB was crap. These days, don't care. Quality of source code depends much more on the quality of the programmer than on the quality of the language. It's the man, not the machine I guess.

  6. Re:Make .NET Open Source by HiThere · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes. However...

    The current SCO brouhaha is adding new urgency to the question: "Is .NET subject to any patents, whether owned by MS or owned by someone else?" This has bothered me before, but I've never noticed it being addressed. And certainly not authoritatively.

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    I think we've pushed this "anyone can grow up to be president" thing too far.
  7. Re:SOAP doesn't do much, but watch it scale by David+Leppik · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why not use SQL's DATE, TIME, DATETIME, and TIMESTAMP formats? There's already a spec (SQL '92) and any language that regularly talks to a database can already marshal them. Besides, quite a few (most?) web services are middleware on top of a database, so you might as well be consistent.

  8. Re:Used it already by RiverTonic · · Score: 2, Insightful
    You're right.

    Web services is just supposed to be easier, and nothing more. There is no extra functionality or whatsoever. But my point is that Microsoft and others are just blowing it up.

    Last time I saw such a guy from Microsoft that gave a presentation about the new technology and it was like web-services were going to change our way of booking flight tickets combined hotel rooms and a rent-a-car, ... And it's just a technology that simplifies the interconnection between companies services. Programmers will still need to make the connection between different companies.

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  9. Re:My problem with .NET by arkanes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    .NET is not intrisically any more locked in than Java is, although that may change. In any case, it's not relevent in any way to a discussion of IDEs and tools, since third parties are more than happy to make them whether or not they can create thier own VM/runtime/what have you. And if you thought for more than half a second instead of feeling threatened by .NET (if it sucks so bad, why do you care about it?), you'd realize that.

  10. Re:.NET is easy to use but uses too much memory by mingot · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yep, the framework uses about 20mb of memory. But it's one time hit and not per application. Not going to be much of an issue soon since explorer.exe is being re-written using the framework. (That means that 20mb is going to be used whether you run any other framework apps or not).

    And really, I'm not sure that a 20mb baseline would stop the adoption of a peice of software. *shrug*