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TiVo Hacking Book to be Released

weaknees writes "Wired News reports that O'Reilly press has book in the works loaded with TiVo Hacks. The author, an MIT guy, is collecting 100 hacks for TiVo, but is shying away from the most controversial hacks.... The brief article points out that the most avid TiVo hackers seem intent on respecting TiVo's interest in having hackers stay away from things like subscription theft and video extraction."

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  1. 100 hacks by 00_NOP · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seems O'Reilly are publishing a series of these. I heartily recommend their Linux Server Hacks book, btw. There is a Google one too - anyone care to comment on that?

  2. goodbye to Tivo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    "If that bond gets broken, you can say goodbye to backdoors, 30 second skips, etc."

    There is no reason at all to get worried over video extration. More and more will say goodbye to Tivo (unless they can hack and put back in the 30 second skips!)

  3. Re:Video Extraction (ReplayTV) by crow · · Score: 4, Informative

    On ReplayTV (with the 4000 and up models), there is a feature allowing you to send shows to other units, and another to stream video to another unit. Because the send show feature can go to any unit over the Internet, this is one feature that they're being sued over.

    The hack portion of it is a bit of software you run on a computer that emulates the ReplayTV protocol, allowing you to send shows to and from a PC. This allows you to burn archival copies, as well as to effectively use the PC's hard drive for additional show storage. Running that software would be considered a "hack" as it was independently developed and not officially supported by ReplayTV.

  4. TyStudio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative
    It is not true that you can't do video extraction on a TiVo, regardless of what this article or the Replay trolls say.

    http://dvd-create.sourceforge.net/tystudio/index.s html

    In short, TyStudio is a Tivo Video Recording (aka tystream) Format framework; TyStudio offers a suite of tools for these types of video streams. These tools enable you to transform the Tivo Video Recording to such formats as an MPEG program stream, which is commonly used by DVD players. It also offers the option of GOP boundary editong of the Recording prior to actualy doing the conversion. Pleas see the whatis/about page.
    1. Re:TyStudio by jemnery · · Score: 2, Informative

      From the TyStudio site:

      "# TyServer: A daemon that silently runs on your tivo, awaiting requests by the other tools to list all of your recordings, get information about each recording, or directly extract any given recording. Unlike most programs that already do this, this one is written entirely in C. This means that it's faster, and more stable than any other software of this kind."

      Heh.

  5. Re:Video extraction? by Eight+01 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You aren't very familiar with Tivo. They not only don't close hacking loopholes, but seem to even encourage them.
    For instance, a hardware hacker created a NIC card for the first generation Tivo that allows you to telnet in and schedule recordings and do other things. TiVo included his driver in the latest release of the software that is automatically pushed to all Tivos, so that by changing the dialing prefix in the Tivo software it will use the NIC to obtain guide data (rather than the analog modem that is built in).

    Furthermore, building a box that does the equivalent of the Tivo will cost in excess of $600 dollars (keep in mind that Tivo does high-quality buffering of all video, so it requires high-quality real time compression). A VIA CPU and an all-in-wonder TV tuner won't work.

    You can get a lifetime subscription Tivo for hundreds less than building a Myth TV or FreeVo box.

    Of course if building the box and fiddling with scripts is most of the fun, the FreeVo/MythTV box is the better deal :)

  6. Re:video extraction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    TyStudio:

    http://dvd-create.sourceforge.net/tystudio/index.s html

    In short, TyStudio is a Tivo Video Recording (aka tystream) Format framework; TyStudio offers a suite of tools for these types of video streams. These tools enable you to transform the Tivo Video Recording to such formats as an MPEG program stream, which is commonly used by DVD players. It also offers the option of GOP boundary editong of the Recording prior to actualy doing the conversion. Pleas see the whatis/about page.
  7. Re:Video extraction? by ethaz · · Score: 4, Informative
    Many of the common Tivo hacks (hard drive expansion, ethernet connections and web interface) are NOT opposed by Tivo. In fact, Tivo even includes support for ethernet connections in Series 1 machines, which do not have Tivo provided ethernet capability. (Series 2 machines have USB ports and can use USB ethernet adapters). To say that "something the company doesn't intend them to do and is adamantly against." is just flat out wrong and indicates that the writer is not at all familiar with Tivo.


    There is a problem with video extraction in that it represents another battlefield in Big Media's attempt to turn back the clock to the days before Betamax. I wish Tivo would fight them on this but (1) Big Media owns pieces of Tivo and (2) we all can see what fighting Big Media did to Replay. I can hardly criticize Tivo for not wanting to commit suicide.

  8. Re:Video Extraction (ReplayTV) by pmcneill · · Score: 3, Informative

    This isn't entirely correct. SonicBlue was being sued over two features: Internet Video Sharing and Commercial Advance. IVS is a distinct feature from in-home sharing, running at a much slower speed and utilizing a custom DNS like service to locate remote replaytvs. It also creates a local copy of the file. Streaming doesn't create a local copy and occurs at full speed (obviously). DVArchive, a popular program, acts just like a ReplayTV, so it's capable of both receiving shows (which are saved rather than played), and streaming the saved shows back to the actualy ReplayTV. AFAIK, the streaming functionality has never been in question.

  9. Re:Tivo Whores.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Tivo never "took away" subscription free boxes from anyone. They stopped selling them. No one who bought a subscription free tivo had it taken away from them.

    Likewise, no one who bought a lifetime subscription Tivo had it revoked.

    I'm sure MythTv is easy enough to use - that wasn't the issue. The issue is cost. It is more expensive to build a MythTv box with PVR performance similar to a Tivo, even if you factor in a lifetime subscription for the Tivo.

    The Tivo isn't exactly a black-box either. If Tivo goes out of business there will be quite a few alternative ways to get guide data.

  10. Re:Subscription theft or alternative service? by GMontag · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just wondering ... what digital tv guides are out there as alternatives?

    Well, TV Guide has one and, IIRC, there was a script or something already out there to extract the info from their page and dump it into your TiVO.

    It has been a while since I researched any of this, so I am sure I have missed plenty of info in this recollection. I suggest Googling for info freshness :-)

  11. Re:30 Second Skip Questions by greenskyx · · Score: 4, Informative

    I agree... For those of you who don't know how to do this you can look here...

    http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?po stid=205706#post205706

    Tivo 2 ppl...
    S-P-S-3-0-S (1.3, also 2.5, not 2.0 or 2.01) - Toggles 30 second skip mode. This turns the Skip to End button into a 30 second skip button. This was removed in 2.0x, but added back in 2.5.

  12. Re:Useless by EricMcD · · Score: 3, Informative

    Patches for the S2 EEPROM/PROM were released last November. For those without a way to reprogram the PROM, a version of (two-kernel) monte has also been released. With monte-mips, you can reload any kernel you want by launching it from one of their "secure" kernels with known vulnerabilities. So there are numerous ways to get into the box. It's just these ways aren't as user-friendly as before.

  13. misleading article by MbM · · Score: 2, Informative

    Raffi isn't a tivo hacker, nor has he released any software for the tivo. His only contribution has been a book about the tivo, but to say that he wrote the book himself is also misleading. He solicited other people from the tivo community (including myself) to write sections for him.

    In other words, he hasn't done anything and the drafts of the book don't look too promising.

    --
    - MbM