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Gentoo Offers PPC LiveCDs
drunkentiger writes "Ripped right off their homepage: In a recent Slashdot article, someone asked if it were possible to create a fully-featured bootable Linux LiveCD for the Macintosh.
We thought this was a great idea. So today, we are releasing two full-featured LiveCDs for the PowerPC: one with KDE 3, and another with GNOME 2. Take a look at the KDE LiveCD running MacOS X in a window via Mac on Linux. LiveCDs can be downloaded here or from these mirrors."
Gentoo Linux is an interesting new distribution with some great features. Unfortunately, it has attracted a large number of clueless wannabes and leprotards who absolutely MUST advocate Gentoo at every opportunity. Let's look at the language of these zealots, and find out what it really means...
"Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
"Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."
"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
"Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom."
"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
"Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."
"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo." .debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat
supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing
to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running
BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."
"I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and
"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
"...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."
"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..." .rpms together on the command line, and that problems
hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing
SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't
designed for)."
"I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH
"All the other distros are soooo out of date."
"Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -O9 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours."
"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
"OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"
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This is great! When the Lab runs out of normal PC's theres always a few Macs left and now with my shiny Linux PPC cd I can use these heaten machines without cringing at MacOS 9 and actually have some decent apps.
There is no god
I'm confused. Does this mean you stick the CD into your computer, it makes a huge RAM disk, copies in the source code, compiles it all, and two weeks later you have a system ready to use right away?
-- Ed Avis ed@membled.com
When my girlfriend bought an iBook, I begged her to let me put Gentoo on it. She wasn't keen on that at all, enjoying the Mac OS X interface just fine, thank you.
Now I'm finally able to run Gentoo on her system without screwing anything up. This should prove to be a lot of fun:
"Look, babe, I put Gentoo on your computer!"
"WHAT?!? Where are my Sims?!?"
"Um...woops?"
I'm evil.
Honestly, though, this is going to be great for a lot of developers. Now we can take a couple of Gentoo LiveCDs around with us and boot nearly any personal computer up with our favorite distribution.
I work for Gentoo, but I'm also honestly hooked on it. And I'm no zealot either--I know its limitations and I know its strengths. But the release of a PPC LiveCD can do nothing but help the overall Linux effort, including Gentoo, and will undoubtedly be a boon for all of OSS.
Seriously!
We finally found people who ACTUALLY do RTFA -- *and* the comments.
They should be considered role model for this place or something.
Fear them.
IP Therefore I am.
Not only do my DOS games run so fast that I sometimes drop into seizures, but loading Windows 3.1 only takes a few minutes! Running Works while defragging my hard drive has made my old box into quite a workhorse. Anyone else want to share P3/DOS experiences?
There's a Mercedes gap too. I want one and can't afford one, but it's not government's job to do anything about it.
just before killing you.
if someone in here buys a $1500 mac and puts linux on it, I'm gonna find you and beat you to death with a clue stick.
How about somebody beat you to death with a preview stick or a spell-check stick?
Just dont think your clever and will install Linux on your brother-in-laws NuBus PowerPC assuming that it would be as simple as slip in the Debian boot floppy and move on from there, like *cough* my friend did :.(
Economic Left/Right: -0.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69
Real men use rpm -i --force, you insensitive clod.
I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH .rpms together on the command line
Yes, that's me. But at least I know how to find useful Linux tips by including stupid as a search term!
Have Linux installed at your place in Amsterdam, for cheap
When it's finished compiling.
Slow down, cowboy! It has been 4 hours since you last posted. You must wait another few hours.
Christ man.. will you lay off the double negatives? It took me a while just to figure out what the hell you were saying.
Well, my copy editor for my slashdot posts is on vacation this week. Sorry to tax your circuits.
Ah.. hehe.
That reminds me of an old search tip I worked out as a techy.
If you cant find an answer to the problem with a bit of equipment, put the name in and add either "fu*ked" or "hosed". Wierdly it works 99% of the time for me.
Excuse the Unicode crap in my posts. That's an apostrophe, and slashdot is busted.
Simply install your filesystem(s) of choice on your spare / and /boot partiton, mount them under /mnt/gentoo (or whever), untar the stage 1 tarball into /mnt/gentoo (or wherever), mount -o bind /proc /mnt/gentoo/pric (or wherever/proc) per the install docs, and install in a chrooted environment.
:-)
Simply, eh?