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ESR Recasts Jargon File in Own Image

don.g writes "As reported by NTK, ESR appears to have embarked apon the process of recasting the Jargon File in his own image, adding terms like "Aunt Tillie" and "GhandiCon" that he dreamt up and seemingly no-one else uses, and various terms from (of all places) the warblogging community, where he is active. He's also updated the "Hacker Politics" page to be more closely aligned with his own views."

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  1. Re:Am I the only one here... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    ESR is the drunkard and gun advocate that coined the term Open Source. He's also the author of fethcmail.

    Brett Glass

  2. Re:And this is a surprise.. why? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Nobody handed this off to ESR. He took it upon himself. Back when he first started to overhaul the Hacker's Dictionary, many of the original contributors were less than pleased with the treatment he was giving it. There were many flamefests in alt.folklore.computers, I believe. Some of the original complaints were that he was adding entries that weren't in common usage, that he deleted entries that he didn't personally like, and that the general tone of some sections was too self-serving. Some things never change.

  3. Re:Am I the only one here... by Mortice · · Score: 5, Informative

    ESR is Eric S. Raymond, author of "The Cathedral and the Bazaar", the essay which was cited as a prime reason for Netscape's decision to release their browser source, and many other essays on Open Source. He was a co-founder of the OSI, and is the long-time maintainer of .

    His website is here.

    Of course, a google search would have told you all of this.

  4. "GandhiCon" by Spock+the+Vulcan · · Score: 4, Informative

    Once again, it's Gandhi, not Ghandi.

    Also, while the changelog spells it correctly, the link there again points to the "Ghandi" spelling. This is the correct link.

    And for the curious and lazy, this is the corresponding entry:

    GandhiCon

    There is a quote from Mohandas Gandhi, describing the stages of establishment resistence to a winning strategy of nonviolent activism, that partisans of open source and especially Linux have embraced as almost an explanatory framework for the behaviors they observe while trying to get corporations and other large institutions to take new ways of doing things seriously:

    First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.

    In hacker usage this quote has miscegenated with the U.S military's DefCon terminology describing âdefense conditionsâ(TM) or degrees of war alert. At GhandiCon One, you're being ignored. At GhandiCon Two, opponents are laughing at you and dismissing the idea that you could ever be a threat. At GhandiCon Three, they're fighting you on the merits and/or attempting to discredit you. At GhandiCon Four, you're winning and they are arguing to save face or stave off complete collapse of their position.

    1. Re:"GandhiCon" by Nodatadj · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try telling Gandhi.
      They went from 3, through 3.5 and still got to 4.

  5. Re:I met him at ALS by GC · · Score: 2, Informative

    Just in case he does in case of ESR's incapacity...

    The Jargon File
    Editorial rights and privileges, ownership of the Jargon File Resource Page, and the copyright of "The New Hacker's Dictionary", are to revert to Guy Steele , or with Guy Steele's consent to John Cowan or a third party agreeable to both.

  6. If anyone deserves some slack in this regard... by OwnerOfWhinyCat · · Score: 3, Informative

    ..it's ESR.

    This piece at NTK sounds like flamebait. For the following reasons.

    1) They claim he's added terms to the jargon file that... "on closer search-engine examination, appear to have been used almost exclusively by Raymond himself."

    The concept that a term that is (by the very context of it's entry) "jargon" would have to have any search engine presence seems like a very bad assumption. Though it's not a common part of net-speech, I'd had the word "Fucktard" taunted at me in Half-Life TFC games long before I'd read it in anything a search engine could reference. The fact that one of the hacker communities most literate advocates would have the majority of hits for a new bit of jargon sounds more like probability mechanics at work than any sinister plot by ESR to reshape the vocabulary of the Internet.

    2) They take issue with his update of the "politics" section. It's 77 words long, and seems like as good a summary as one could come up with. http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/politics.html

    3) I've put together documents like his rebuttal to the SCO mess, and they are an nightmare of fact checking and redesign. When someone makes claims as preposterous as SCO did regarding Linux it's hard to know where to start. It's even harder to know how much background is needed to explain your points to non-unixphiles. I read the whole document and it was a work of art. It was clear, it had links to piles of substantiating data, I'd be surprised if the IBM legal team didn't throw a party when they first read it.

    Did anyone pay ESR for this massive effort?

    Does anyone else find it thoughtless and ungrateful to criticize one of the communities greatest single person assets because the tremendous efforts he puts forth FOR FREE are colored by his personal experiences?

  7. Re:Am I the only one here... by stevew · · Score: 1, Informative

    For those of you that don't seem to know - the Hackers Dictionary was WRITTEN by ESR around 1990 if memory serves. Granted that he got most of it's content through requests for definition on Usenet, but he is STILL the original author - so if he chooses to add or delete from it, he is doing so to his own original work.

    Sheesh!

    Compared to the SCO versus the rest of the world fight going on right now - this is mouse nuts!

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  8. Re:Am I the only one here... by Avakado · · Score: 5, Informative

    the Hackers Dictionary was WRITTEN by ESR around 1990 if memory serves

    This entry in Wikipedia says "The Jargon File (hereafter referred to as `jargon-1' or `the File') was begun by Raphael Finkel at Stanford in 1975."

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  9. Re:Am I the only one here... by randombit · · Score: 3, Informative

    though ESR significantly enhanced the whole effort during the mid-80's and published as a book.

    Actually, according to the Jargon file itself, it was GLS who did the editing for the first book: (see here).

  10. Ethics of Free Software by leipold · · Score: 3, Informative
    A few years ago, Bertrand Meyer penned a fascinating article, "The Ethics of Free Software". (Printed in Software Development magazine (reg req'd), but mirrored many places including here and here.)

    Meyer criticizes the self-assumed ethical superiority of ESR, RMS, and others, and in particular notes the "gun evangelism" ESR intertwines with his open-source evangelism.

    This thoughtful article should be required reading for all overly-strident geeks.

  11. Re:So, what's new? by Reylas · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, I am sorry the original author is Raphael Finkel, a professor at the University of Kentucky.

    He is one of the most interesting people I have ever met, and one of the primary reasons I stayed with CompSci. It was a joy to go to class.

    Marks

  12. Where does Raymond get off changing this? by Animats · · Score: 3, Informative

    Where does Raymond get off claiming authority over the "Hacker's Dictionary". He's not even mentioned in the original edition. The real "Hacker's Dictionary", of course, comes from the MIT AI Lab, and the MIT Jargon File. The original book publication was in 1983 (Steele, Guy. New York, Harper & Row, ISBN 0-06-091082-8). That's the Hacker's Dictionary. Everything else is popular trash by people who weren't there.

  13. Re:Am I the only one here... by JoeBuck · · Score: 2, Informative

    No, Eric did not coin the term "open source", Brett. He was at the meeting where the term was suggested, but it wasn't him.

  14. Re:Coupla things... by scumdamn · · Score: 2, Informative

    Actually, when word are translated from Hindi to English the spelling isn't constant. It's like Osama vs. Usama. They're both right. That could be what's going on there.
    Like Laxmi vs. Laksmi. They're pronounced the same but spelled differently. But in Hindi they'd be spelled the same.

  15. Re:Unit of ego by pete-classic · · Score: 2, Informative

    It also happens that 1 Farad caps are available at "Car Toys" and other mid to high-end car audio shops.

    Seems that putting a 1 Farad cap in the line between the positive terminal of your battery and your sound equipment keeps your headlights from dimming when the bass hits.

    But that isn't the point!

    -Peter

  16. Re:I have one word for you: by the+Atomic+Rabbit · · Score: 4, Informative

    The pre-Raymond version of the Jargon File - the Hacker's Dictionary - is available here:

    The Original Hacker's Dictionary.

    This is more a historical work than anything else, as it documents the language of what Levy calls the "first generation hackers", the ones who worked in the AI labs at Stanford and MIT. Those communities died during in the 80s (which was, of course, the event that provided the impetus for the GNU project.) The Hacker's Dictionary has a genuine and honest flavor that the modern Jargon File lacks, which is probably inevitable, since the Jargon File covers the modern internet-based "hacker" community - a vaguely-defined entity that has even become confused over the meaning of the word "hacker". It's therefore not surprising that ESR feels he can get away with sprinkling the Jargon File with Raymondisms.

  17. Re:Ok, ideas for an alternative? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    ESR is the most egotistic person I've ever met in my life. During his talk at a local LUG, he kept on implying that he started not only the Open Source revolution, but had a hand in Linux, GPL, and creating the Internet. RMS is also pretty egotistical, and truthfully, downright *weird*, but he has a legitimate claim to the Free (as in speech) revolution. Maddog is downright humble. So were the MySQL creators, Apache developers, and folks like Robert Love. It's ESR's constant self-promotion that really makes me think of him as some vain actor.

    Yes, there's a lot of politics involved. But I think it was his rampant egotism that sunk his kernel config patches more than technical merit. Seriously, my guess is that no one wanted to fan his flames and give him something to boast about. "Yes, the kernel is OK, but it's the configuration utility that really made it work for the enterprise. Oh, I did that. Nyah nyah nyah."

  18. Re:Jargon FIle by przemekkk · · Score: 2, Informative

    Something from 01 Jul 1992 can be found on AMINET:

    http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/aminet/docs/etext/jargn1 0. lha

    Not sure if it's old enough.

  19. Original Hackers Dictionary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The pre-ESR version of the Hacker's Dictionary is online as well. http://www.dourish.com/goodies/jargon.html

  20. The Truth Will Set You Free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative