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A Mighty Wind

DoraLives writes "Fascinating New York Times piece regarding a proposed wind farm for Nantucket Sound. Suddenly, all the environmentally friendly locals are going ballistic over the prospects of seeing an 'industrial energy complex' in their backyard. Walter Cronkite decries it, as do many other local checkbook environmentalists. Greenpeace says 'Jim Gordon (the developer) is the real thing, there aren't many entrepreneurs out there willing to take risks to clean up the environment.' Who's right?"

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  1. Re:NIMBY by gerf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Negatives? Windfarms are, in my experience, very beautiful, quiet, aesthetically pleasing things.

    You are talking about some of the richest, most pompous, uptight, annoying people in the world. If you put a poster in your window, that doesn't conform to what they think you should have, you get dragged before the local council, and possibly fined. It's stupid.

    As is, Nantucket is one of the most expensive areas to live in. Everything is brough over by ferry: gas, oil, food, everything. It's a place to have a home for Trophy purposes only.

    That said, BUILD IT. That's a LOT of power for an area that needs it. And, i'd say build twice that. Hey, i'd live by one of those mills. They look cool, are safe, and are environmentally friendly.

  2. Amen! by www.sorehands.com · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have a friend who is an attorney who had been litigating a case down there. A person bought an empty lot, and one of the neighbors been fighting in court to prevent him from building the house because it interfered with his view of the beach.

    If the person was really concerned about the view of the beach, he could have bought the lot.

  3. Re:Wind Farms don't work by Qzukk · · Score: 5, Interesting

    More efficient omnidirectional prototypes were tested in the 1980's but they were banned because they tended to attract and kill birds.

    Ok, theres an obvious solution to this... build a damn mesh cage around the propeller blades.

    I guess this is too much of a duh solution for people to accept though, without getting a five million grant from the government to "study" it.

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    If I have been able to see further than others, it is because I bought a pair of binoculars.
  4. $44 trillion is PV of debt in perpetuity by js7a · · Score: 5, Interesting
    The $44 trillion figure is the present value of the national debt held by the public computed as a perpetuity.

    We are not any worse off then we were in the '90s or the '60s.

    Until the baby boomers retire, and then we're totally screwed.

    The 2003 Senate Energy Bill [S.14] offers loan guarantees for the construction of 7 new nuclear reactors in the US

    The heavily subsidized typical cost for U.S. nuclear power is around $0.12/kwh. That doesn't include the blanket insurance policy courtesy of the Price-Anderson Act, nor the cost of waste disposal and other externalites like terrorism and natural disaster vulnerability, which can not be measured until it's too late.

    The unsubsidized, fully amortized cost of wind power is about $0.04/kwh. Most jurisdictions also apply a subsidy to wind.

    The entire United States of America can be converted to wind powered electricity using only 14,000 acres of turbine footprint area on existing farmland, pasture, and prarie. That's about twice the area of the Stanford University campus, or about as much oak forest lost in California each year.

    There is no reason that wind should not be the major U.S. source of electricity in 2018.

    Please tell Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan. Based on his Energy Committee testimony last week, nobody has explained this to him yet. Please phone +1.202.452.3204 and ask for Michelle Smith or Andrew Williams.