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Gemstar Ebook Crashes, Burns

Robotech_Master writes "In a lengthy announcement on its ebook catalog page, Gemstar, owner of TV Guide and the Rocket/Gemstar eBook, has announced it is going out of the ebook business. Gemstar will not be selling any new devices or ebook content after July 16th. Of particular interest to those who purchased the newer Gemstar eBook models that eliminated the ability to install free content directly on the devices: 'We will also continue to provide the newly released Personal Content feature available through the web bookstore at least through July 16, 2006.' It's too bad, really; I've heard that the Gemstar has one of the most legible displays of any of the ebook alternatives available. They could have done quite well as general-purpose reading devices, if Gemstar had not locked them directly to its own overpriced content in a stunning demonstration of self-proctology."

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  1. What does this mean for GuildePlus+? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Gemstar provides the TV Guide-like listings for my ATI AIW video card. Will this still be operational?

  2. Term of the week by r84x · · Score: 5, Funny

    I would have to say that I have not heard a better term for stupidity in a while. "...a stunning demonstration of self-proctology." is a wonder of the english language. I applaud the author.

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  3. What's the point.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... of ebooks when you've got handhelds?

  4. eBooks by CaptainZapp · · Score: 5, Insightful
    In theory it could be a marvelous idea, especially for technical publications. For novels they somewhat lack the sexyness of the good ol' paper book (this goes especially for hardcovers and imo of course).

    The publishers themselves seem to kill the goldeneggslayinggoose themselves due to absurd copy restrictions and non-compatible standards. Hell: Do you really want to buy three e-book readers at 500Euros a pop for the really meager catalogue out there.

    I don't get their paranoia, though. What stops anybody of scanning a book in plain, good ol' ascii text and releasing it on the internet (else that this is illegal, of course)?

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    1. Re:eBooks by The_dev0 · · Score: 4, Funny
      What stops anybody of scanning a book in plain, good ol' ascii text and releasing it on the internet

      Not much at all, I suspect. Even if you just enter the term ebook (not even author or title information) on your favourite P2P software you'll see literally hundreds of titles out there already in plain text. Unfortunately I downloaded the Metallica autobiography and ended up with Battlefield:Earth instead. Bastards.

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    2. Re:eBooks by Oscar_Wilde · · Score: 3, Informative

      What stops anybody of scanning a book in plain, good ol' ascii text and releasing it on the internet.

      Nothing at all (assuming the book is out of copyright).

    3. Re:eBooks by jonathan_ingram · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And might I also mention that if you want to get involved in helping PG, we have a wonderful Distributed Proofreading project. It's now the main route through which books go to get only DP, and we're almost up to 1500 books processed. Anyone can join -- we need all the proofreaders we can get!

    4. Re:eBooks by without · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Ebooks have their good and bad points, but I've found that I've gotten hooked on them. The bad points are that they don't feel as good in your hand as paper, they have small screens, and their batteries can run out. But I've found that the same things that make me love reading make me love reading ebooks. I read ebook novels on my PDA. Some points in their favor:

      1. I can read ebooks while I eat a sandwich. Sounds minor, but really, I like to read while I eat lunch, and a PDA stays open and flat and changing the page is trivial.

      2. I can read them in the dark- in the car at night (when somebody *else* is driving, of course) or in bed without bothering my wife.

      3. I can fit several ebook novels in my pocket. This means that I can have a book with me wherever I go. I can read a book standing in line at McDonald's, or at the bank, or while I'm sitting in the car waiting for my wife to come out of work.

      4. They're cheaper. You can get a lot of books, especially classic literature, for free, and even current, popular ebooks cost less, so I can read more for less money. On the downside, if you don't have a PDA already you have to buy some kind of a reader.

      5. I can download the sequel to a book I like at any time. At bookstores I used to buy books 1 and 2 or 1, 2, and 3 of a series I like, but now I buy just the first one online, and if I like it I can download #2 and have it in less than a minute if I liked the first one.

      6. I can get back-order or out-of-print books more easily. Regular bookstores nessarily have limited space. Buying paper books online requires me to wait until they arrive in the mail.

      So while they're not perfect, I find that I read ebook novels more and more and paper ones less and less.

      As for copy protection and book formats, you can buy a lot of ebooks with no protection at all in any of multiple formats. Check out http://www.baen.com or http://www.fictionwise.com for examples- that's where I buy many of my ebooks.

  5. Ebooks by rf0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've always had trouble finding a nice way of reading books on LCD screen. If outside the sun destoryed the contrast or if inside you had to be just right so there was enough light. Nightmare. This is why I just went back to normal books. If the sun is to bright, put on some sunglasses. If to dark, turn on the light or use a torch.

    Now I understand the size concept but somehow it just feels better. Similar story with me and PDA's. Best PDA I found was a diary + pen

    Rus

  6. awkward evolutionary spur in the handheld world by marcsiry · · Score: 5, Informative

    To me, dedicated e-book readers seem to come from the same place as those portable DVD players that cost as much as a laptop with a DVD drive.

    Why buy a one-purpose piece of hardware when there are solutions that perform that purpose well, and do other useful stuff?

    To compound the problem, they release the content on a closed, proprietary platform that only runs on their hardware. It's the Vectrex of our time! (Not to slag Vectrex, I loved mine).

    IMO a better path would have been to build a multi-purpose handheld optimized for e-book reading- license the Palm OS so that people could do all that other stuff too, but use a big, clear screen with dedicated nav buttons so it was the best darn e-book reading Palm money can buy. Or the best darn e-book reading Linux pad, I'm not picky.

    It seems the downfall of this company (and many others) is they assume they are operating in a standalone universe. With that assumption, creating a closed system of readers and content makes sense (how else could someone have possibly thought DivX was a good idea?). Out in the wilds of the real world, they're murdered by their less annoying competition.

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    1. Re:awkward evolutionary spur in the handheld world by Vengeance_au · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not a fan of the DVD players you refer to, however the primary reason they are successful is due to battery life. A slimline standalone DVD player has enough juice for 8+ hrs of watching, compared to a laptops 3 hrs tops. For international flights I have a few colleagues who use and swear by portable DVD players, and carry them in in their laptop bags on all international trips.

      An analogy is a screwdriver vs a swiss army knife - dedicated tools tend to do their job better, but lack flexibility.

    2. Re:awkward evolutionary spur in the handheld world by Wordplay · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I've not seen one with that kind of battery life, but I'd be interested to know which one does. My Toshiba gets 3.5 hours on the stock battery, 5 hours on the larger replacement, and is pretty much par for the course.

      Where it does come in ahead of a laptop is weight (2 lbs vs. 6+ lbs), price (~$600 new instead of ~$1K+ new), and picture/sound quality. Find me a 2lb $600 laptop that can output a progressive scan picture to an HDTV and output Dolby 5.1 and DTS, and we might be in business.

  7. When bad ideas attack by MrLint · · Score: 5, Funny

    The thing that strikes me most about this article is not the fact that ebooks have gone no-where, but the reason why. As the one linked article states they were trying to lock everyone into their content only. Anyone with a clue could ahve told you this wasnt going to end well, unless you had the sun and the moon and the stars to offer.

    However, I'm trying to look at the bigger picture here. In our recent memory there seem to be a bunch of really bad business ideas that some how make it thru the tedious corporate 'bad idea expeller'. Please recall 'divx' (caps not withstanding) the time limited psuedo-rental dvd scheme from Circuit City and a law firm. And now we have its successor, self-destructing media.

    I have to ask myself have any of these clowns done any market research? How do they manage to ram thru these dumbass get rick quick schemes with no one noticing? I have to wonder what the pie charts look like at these meetings. 20% wont care what we do, 20% will be alienated, 30% arent customers anyway .. and so on. It feels like decisions made on the least negative instead of most positive.

    1. Re:When bad ideas attack by richie2000 · · Score: 4, Funny

      These people probably read the Daily Dilbert as they would their horoscope and regard the PHB as a shining beacon of good management practice. There should be a big, red, blinking warning sign saying "WARNING: SATIRE - DO NOT TRY THIS AT WORK".

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  8. Too bad for Ebooks by l810c · · Score: 4, Interesting
    They had a really nice reader, but they kept it so locked down and there was so little content.

    I've been using my Franklin EBookMan for 3 years now. I love the backlight, I can read in bed at night and not bother my wife. It's also facing the same problems as the Gemstar.

    I was really excited and taken in by all the hype several years ago. I like to read books. I also thought there was unlocked potential in the Rocket(Gemstar) or something similar for technical manuals. I frequently use Many different technologies(HPUX, AIX, WinNT, Oracle, SQL, Shell, ASP, Cold Fusion etc. etc.) in my consulting business. I always thought these devices would be great for carrying multiple reference manuals instead of those 10 pound books.

    1. Re:Too bad for Ebooks by Lumpy · · Score: 3, Informative

      The funny thing is that if you downloaded the OLD version of their pc software, you could "make" your own ebooks for the devices. then after making the books you used the new software to import them.

      Why they removed the make feature I dont know, but I have over 1000 guttenburg textx as eb files for the rocketbooks, as well as most all of the HOWTO's for linux, and the entire manual to mysql.

      It's kind of nice to carry around on one sd card over 400 books or manuals.

      and yes, I have NEVER bought one ebook, nothing they sell even remotely interests me.

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  9. Ebooks by slux · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As long as the current copy protection mechanisms (of which Lawrence Lessig talks about in his excellent free_culture are in place, ebooks will not become common. Or I should say I hope people can see how useless they are and opt to not use them.

    When you think of what the technology could do... You could have access to the digital version of any book, there would never be problems with acquiring a copy of a book. You could always get the book you wanted instantly from your local library, even through the net. Right now, the only thing they have is "gee-it's-new-technology"-effect, and they're really just severely restricted versions of real books.

    But it's all inevitable. Even if every library in the world will decide to buy these pathetic excuses of a book, the unrestricted versions will come. They just won't be in the library. They'll be in p2p. Because we all know the ebook protection is fundamentally flawed.

  10. maybe they can open it up by io333 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It would be nice if they put out the specs on everything so some enterprising and bored guru could find a way to stick a teeny version of linux on it and make it a reader again. Why waste a good display?

  11. HTML and PDF display are the only things by Jeremi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If I ever decide to buy an eBook, I will need it to do two things: (1) cache and display any HTML I choose, and (2) cache and display any PDF I choose. Without these two features, no amount of other features is sufficient; with these two features, no other features are necessary.

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  12. Proprietary Content by zipcube · · Score: 4, Informative

    Actually, I've had the 1100 for a few years now, and I just use the old Rocket Librarian software to convert html and text files to its own .rb format. Works fairly well, the device has quite possibly the best indoor/outdoor lcd I've seen to date, and usually has 35 hour plus battery life. I also have a pda, and one just cannot compare the two, reading for any length of time on any current pda is a pain due to limited amount of screen real estate. The only pda with a screen large enough to be a comfortable ebook reader would have been the Newton or the Vadem Clio.

  13. Product need... by OneFix · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It seems to me that a PDA would fill the same need. I have a Palm IIIxe and have no problem reading eBooks with it. Not to mention that I can also read PDFs with it...something dedicated readers can't.

    The low-end model is/was? ~$79...

    Palm sells a refurbished IIIxe for ~$89...

    And acording to this link, the Gemstar has 8MB of memory...the same as the IIIxe...less if you count the extra memory available from the Flash ROM through an app like JackFlash...

    Keeping in mind that the screen on the IIIxe is very legible and features many functions not available through the Gemstar and that battery life can be increased on the palm by underclocking the CPU with one of the apps available for hackmaster...why would anyone want to buy a single function handheld over a PDA???

    Not to mention that the PDA market itself has weakened signifigantly in recent years...

  14. The point.. by fmaxwell · · Score: 4, Insightful

    An AC asked:

    What's the point... of ebooks when you've got handhelds?

    Although I use a Handspring Visor for reading "ebooks", the dedicated readers are far superior from standpoint of their display quality. The Gemstar GEB-2150 has an 8.2" diagonal display. The resolution on the Gemstar models is typically (always?) over 100dpi. That's a lot of pixels and screen real-estate compared to the average handheld.

  15. Hmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pay $300-$700 for a locked and proprietary ebook device or for 30-100 books. Decisions, decisions...

  16. non-proprietary content by alexmagni · · Score: 3, Informative
    I chose the Rocket ebook in the past for just that reason: it allowed via its software to upload .txt/.htm/... to the device.

    Concerning a question made above, the format specs and a Linux software both exist here.

    Now I'm pretty happy with another device, i.e. the Hiebook (site; groups), that provides the same, important capability: you can upload to it any .txt/.htm content.

    Not as as good a display as the rocket, though...

  17. As an alternative, try Plucker by dwheeler · · Score: 3, Informative
    As an alternative, if you already have a Palm, try Plucker at http://www.plkr.org. It's an offline HTML reader for Palm PDAs, and it's Free Software (GPL license). If you can get it in HTML or ASCII text, you can read it.

    General-purpose PDAs (like Palm PDAs) may not have quite the resolution of the specialized readers, but single-purpose units are a bad idea when you have to carry them around (who's going to carry 50 devices around?). Even sillier is the locked format; do they really expect us to buy 12 ebook readers, and pay again to download freely-available content on it? I routinely download documents and websites, and read them at my leisure.

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  18. programmability by garote · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Regarding proprietary formats, etc -- there's a simple rule to remember here, I think.

    The more programmable your portable device is, the less likely you are to be screwed. Programmable as in, the end-user can write and load code into it that will alter it's behavior. If a consumer wants to find a device that's a good investment, this is practically all the information he needs.

    That, and perhaps access to a few local geeks who will hack the device, in the event of a corporate meltdown.

    Now here's the question: How can we keep each other informed of the real programmability of a shiny new device we may see in Circuit City? Is there a yardstick, or a website, or a consortium, or a forum out there -- that measures the hack-ability of new gear?

    (Or should we all just chuck everything out and buy really good laptops instead? I've had one for a year now and it's replaced my desktop PC, my PDA, my television, my DVD player, my stereo, my Playstation, my Nintendo 64, my bookshelf, and my mixer... and obsoleted my CD burner, monitor, keyboard, remote controls, maps, slide projector, darkroom, modem, zipdrive, tape deck, cookbooks, and alarm clock. Mostly due to it's immense programmability.)