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FreeCraft Cease and Desisted by Blizzard

mandreiana writes "As of June 20th, FreeCraft is shut down. The development team received a cease and desist order due to the name 'FreeCraft' causing possible confusion with the names StarCraft and WarCraft, and also some of the ideas within the engine were too similar to WarCraft 2. There will be no more updates to this game, and it is no longer available for download." Way to go, Blizzard, now the only competitors to worry about are the ones who can afford lawyers and actually hold competing market share. Of course, not using a *Craft for a game project might have kept it under the radar a while longer.

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  1. Re:Way to go, make them all martyrs. by beesmambo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Either way it's the last Blizzard game I will buy!

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  2. What do they expect? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You cannot just key off someone else's name like that. If your game is good, invent your own name and identity. Knock-off 'free' versions of commercial products are unimaginative, and a business *must* protect its trademarks, or it loses them.

    1. Re:What do they expect? by fenix+down · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There was every chance of confusion. I'm sorry to see Freecraft go, but it really was a stupid name. FreeCiv is fine because the Civilization people don't have a consistent naming pattern along the lines of WarCiv, StarCiv, etc. If you walked up to some random gamer kid and said "Freecraft" he'd be thinking of a new Blizzard game, maybe sligtly put off by the prefix being "Free", but not much.

  3. RIAA/MPAA vs Open Source by HanzoSan · · Score: 5, Insightful



    Vivendi Universal is the owner of Blizzard. Vivendi Universal hates the free software movement, why? Because its assosiated with the Mp3/FileSharing movement.

    I think people need to consider certsain media companies to be a threat to open source, and a threat to our personal fair use rights, Vivendi Universal is one of these companies.

    Microsoft takes alot of heat, but I think even more heat should be given to companies like Vivendi Universal who sue anyone and everyone who is a threat to their monopoly power and business.

    They sue file sharing companies who create new ways of distributing music, they sue open source companies who create new ways to play games, they will sue you and I if we use these networks, even if they dont know why we are using them.

    Its not about piracy anymore, its about competition, if they cant own all the code, and all the distribution companies, they sue.

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  4. Re:Way to go, make them all martyrs. by jmv · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is a bit different. It's one thing to pass a file using P2P, but it's another thing to patch it and make it evolve. How to you replace the old version with the new one and track changes?

  5. Why not just change it? by MaestroSartori · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Disclaimer: IANAL, but I am a games programmer...

    Why didn't the project team just:

    1) Change the name of the project, removing the source of the confusion with the Blizzard titles

    then

    2) Remove anything which looked like it might directly infringe on Blizzard's IP (I'm guessing there's things like similar artwork here, since gameplay mechanics cannot be copyrighted).

    This would leave the cease-and-desist without a legal leg to stand on, as the grounds it had been sent under were no longer valid. After all, plenty of people out there clone other games, it looks like these guys just cloned *Craft a bit too closely and have annoyed someone with a lawyer...

  6. Re:If you dont plan to buy any other Blizzard game by damiam · · Score: 3, Insightful
    theres plenty of open source game engines to use

    There are? I can think of CrystalSpace, and Quake II as the only decent open-source FPS engines (and none of them is that good, compared to the likes of DoomIII, HL2, Halo2, etc), and Freecraft was the only decent RTS engine. Is there some secret 31337 open-source engine repository I'm missing out on?

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  7. Oh PLEASE by geckofiend · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Only an idiot would start a project to produce a RTS with a name that's only a few letters away from an established line of RTS games.

    I have ZERO sympathy for these people. It takes about 30 seconds to realize that maybe the name + genre was a bad idea. But hey we get folks starting projects all the time based on TV shows without permission. Then they come and cry months into the dev cycle when they get a C&D.

    Coyboy Neal & Co, how would you feel if YOU were Blizzard and someone was trying to ride on the coattails of the brand you worked your ass off to build?

  8. Will You All Remember This? by suntse · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Will you all remember this when the next big blizzard game comes out? Or will you all just run to the store to buy it, just like Warcraft 3?

    1. Re:Will You All Remember This? by kangasloth · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do realize that that's basically the definition of hypocrisy, right?

    2. Re:Will You All Remember This? by FreeUser · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I keep my personal fun and my politics separate.

      I'll be one of the first ones in line to buy their next game.


      Then you will be one of the fools responsible for our complete loss of digital rights.

      It is hedonistic, short sighted fools who put their own immediate gratification over their own medium and long term interests, and worse, over the interest of their community at large, that are responsible for this sort of behavior not only working, but being richly rewarded.

      Keeping your "personal fun and politics separate" when the two clearly collide like this, is remeniscent of the demise of the Tram manufacturers in America. If you are a student of history, you'll recall that they kept their quarterly profits firmly separate from their long term survival. They sold every tram they built for a number of years to the automobile companies, who were willing to pay more for the trains than were the cities. But the cities needed the trams to keep their mass transit systems running. The tram manufacturers ended up surprised when the automobile industries stopped ordering and scrapping their product (go figure) leaving none of the cities with no tram systems, and the tram manufacturers with no customers.

      Go ahead and put your immediate need for gratification ahead of your interest in having access to free software and software freedom, and enjoy the fruits of that shortsighted decision just as the trams companies of America enjoyed thei fruits of their decision to sell their product to their competitors for scrap metal and leave their customers in the lurch did, when they went out of business completely less than a decade later.

      Just as we have no trams as a result of the tram manufacturers incredibly shortsighted decision, if enough people like you take this approach, we will have likewise little or no have no free software.

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  9. Too big for their britches... by Obiwan+Kenobi · · Score: 4, Insightful
    An old saying, but damn, has Blizzard become anti-community or what?

    Me and my friends, who have bought every game Blizzard has produced (all the way back to Blackthorne/Lost Vikings), use PVPGN. Why? Because its nice to host your own servers, to have your own games, to not have to worry about who is on there, to have total control. It's a nice thing to have, and to play around with.


    Of course blizzard shut it down, because you don't need an "official" key to use it. The honor system has become suprisingly worthless nowadays.

    Galactic Civilizations decided to (*gasp*) TRUST their customers and not put SafeDisc or any other type of copy protection on the install discs. A lot of people have problems with these types of anti-piracy methods and generally it just hurts your end user, not that pirates who can get around it with various cracks/hacks/or cd copying programs. Its this kind of trust who now, unfortunately, seems to the be the odd man out. id software did the same thing with Quake3. It was either the first or second patch that took out the cd check, because it annoyed the user more than it actually helped anti-piracy.

    I think the worst part is that Blizzard now requires you to buy a "gaming site license" for any gaming venue in which you charge a fee to enter, even if every user has their own, official, bought and paid for copy. This is just sad. You don't see Valve having a fit over Counter Strike players and their LAN habits, yet Blizzard needs more and more cash for reasons that just don't make sense.

    Here's the irony: Blizzard is owned by an asshole, very profit-driven company (Vivendi International, AFAIK). The developers have generally been very cool, and sometimes even listen to the community at large (they ignored War3 beta testers, but seemed to actually listen when I participated in the Frozen Throne beta). Even though they might be great people who make some really nice games, this is like PR hell. Give the gamers something great, then stab them in the back once you have their money.

    They can't cry "we're just a small developer!" anymore. Not with millions upon millions of sales, and huge development houses around the country.

    I say screw this "Don't blame Blizzard, they've got a bad parent company." No, if the Blizzard heads really wanted to dig their feet into the dirt and stand their ground, they would. If they got fired, and worked the press releases well enough, they would start another gaming company and all those brilliant minds would go there, instead of suffering through this idiocy in the name of cash.

    Sigh. Dare to dream, folks.

  10. Freecraft is a ripoff. by Qender · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it just me? or is freecraft a blatant ripoff of warcraft. I saw a screenshot that could have come from warcraft. Little green orcs, harvesting gold and lumbar. There was even the building with the telescope in it. It's not hard to start a computer company, it's just hard to start a company called "Mikrosoft".

    Make up your own damn game. Don't remake someone else's.

  11. Re:Read Slashdot!! by Uart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    FreeCraft was a threat, a threat to their trademark. If you don't defend your trademarks, then you stand to lose them. Thats why you can't open a small coffee shop and call it Starbucks, or a courier service called FedEx.

    Its called "dilution" when the infringing title is similar. There was a famous case where FedEx sued a NY State coffee shop called FederalExpresso for trademark dilution. I think they won, (That was a far-fetched case, obviously).

    IANAL, but I think the law requires them to do this. I doubt they can stop FreeCraft from changing their name and continuing development though.

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  12. Re:name change? by Morgahastu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    FreeCraft did not only have a similar name, but similar gameplay, ui, units, etc.

    It was trying to be an exact clone of warcraft. You could even play it with the WarCraft graphics.

    It you replaced the graphics with the WarCraft ones it was the same game.

    I can understand why Blizzard or Vivendi would be upset.

    Anyhow it just shows how unimaginative FreeCraft was.

  13. Re:name change? by Fembot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought that freecraft allowed me to, having bought the warcraft 2 cd, play warcraft 2 (well basicaly warcraft II anyway) under linux/unix, and thus could be considered an ineteroperbility product which I belive the DMCA actualy allows explicitly??

  14. What, no mention of Bnetd? by Grog6 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    or has everyone forgotten about the Open Source alternative to battlenet?

    That's why I'm STILL not buying Blizzard anything.

    BTW, does no one get the cocaine reference in 'Blizzard"?

    That was the origin of 'Blizzard of Ozz', the insiration for their name.

    Buncha damn powderheads.

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  15. Do your own marketing ... by Titusdot+Groan · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Why do open source products have to name their products as close as possible to the product from which they are ripping all their ideas off?

    This wasn't supposed to be the ideal of Open Source -- it's not to make mediocre and blatant copies of commerical products, complete with a "punny" name like FreeCraft, FreeCiv, Lindows or ...

    We're supposed to be making better, faster, original stuff. Either just plain better (compare the GNU Unix tools against the Solaris versions) or new and better, leading edge stuff like emacs (which was amazing when it came out; although I prefer Vim :-), perl, tcl, python, ...

    And, damn it, pick a name that doesn't attempt to ride the coat tails of the commercial version so you get free marketing name association. If you're too lazy to market it yourself than you deserve to be ceased and desisted.

  16. Or you could be a little fucking original by I+Am+The+Owl · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Way to go, Blizzard, now the only competitors to worry about are the ones who can afford lawyers and actually hold competing market share.

    Yeah, now only the people with original ideas will be able to compete! What a crock of shit!

    Seriously, will OSS ever produce an original idea, or will it all be about copycat-ism?

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  17. Slashdot is not important! by NDPTAL85 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Aren't you overestimating the influence of Slashdot just a tad? The overwhelming majority of Blizzards customers don't even know Slashdot exists and even the ones who do don't always agree.

    Take me for example. I'm a Blizzard customer and a Slashdot user. But I hardly ever agree with the Slashdot groupthink. I see nothing wrong with Blizzard's actions today and will remain a customer for years to come.

    Why?

    Because I like GOOD video games and Blizzard makes em. I don't want to have to wait 2 to 3 years for an open source half-assed equivalent to come out. Some of the very BEST open source games look like something that was first introduced 5 years ago. And before anyone goes off on a rant about how GOOD games don't always need the best graphics well I agree. But that doesn't mean I also want to be a second-class citizen on the video gaming front.

    For the love of GAWD can't you pedantic nerdy geeks keep politics out of ONE realm of your lives? Folks just want to play games not stand on idealogical grounds for or against something. Whatever happened to just appreciating good work without an alterior motive?

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    1. Re:Slashdot is not important! by GlassHeart · · Score: 3, Insightful
      For the love of GAWD can't you pedantic nerdy geeks keep politics out of ONE realm of your lives?

      I don't actually have an opinion on the Freecraft issue, but if you can keep it out of just one aspect of your life, then it's not a principle.

  18. Re:Theres ALOT more than just those two. by CommandNotFound · · Score: 4, Insightful
    the problem with opensource is that people quickly get in over their heads an abandon project before they complete enough to mention.
    Sorry, as a developer of almost 10 years I have to comment. I can't count how many closed-source projects I've seen (some I have been a part of, unfortunately) that never saw the light of day for the same reasons or due to internal politics. It's not an open-source development problem, it's a development problem. With closed-source, however, the projects sit and rot on a company's hard drive. At least with OSS someone can pick up the code later and make another go at it.
  19. Re:Freecraft is a ripoff. INSIGHTFUL!? by Jerk+City+Troll · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Attention moderators, this guy is just plain wrong. Worse still, he's pure FUD. Must work for Blizzard.

    The purpose of the FreeCraft project is to create an open source WC2 implementation that can be played on any platform. If you own a legal copy of WC2, you can use the datafiles from the CD for artwork, music, and so forth. If you do not, there's a rather low-quality substitute that is entirely free for anyone to use. This project is great because you might own WC2, but you may not be running Windows (anymore). Wouldn't it suck that your money would have to go down the toilet just because you chose to run a differerent (superior) OS? That's bullshit. FreeCraft is interoperability software and it's perfectly legit. I could see an argument on the name, but there's no reason they can't build a clone of the engine.

    If anything, just stop and think about the basics of the situation. You have a group of volunteers creating a program for free who are being shut down by a greedy mega-corporation. Do you really think the FreeCraft project is so evil and Blizzard is justified?

  20. Re:Theres ALOT more than just those two. by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sorry, as a developer of almost 10 years I have to comment. I can't count how many closed-source projects I've seen ... that never saw the light of day.....

    The difference between open-source projects and closed source projects like this is that the self-destruct process is just as public as the code is.

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  21. Change the name? by Nom_Anor · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Is it just me, but why don't they just change the name of the game?

    After all, the "ideas within the engine were too similar to WarCraft 2" argument doesn't stand on its own; almost every RTS released since WarCraft 2 contain similar design ideas...

  22. This is lame by Tim+Sweeney · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Given that Blizzard is using the trademarks "StarCraft" and "WarCraft" in this very specific market (realtime computer strategy games), their claim that "FreeCraft" infringes on their copyright is reasonable and very likely winnable in court.

    So, no problem, just rename FreeCraft to a unique name that clearly isn't derivative of Blizzard's product. And don't be mad that they asked you to do this, because they have the right and obligation to protect their copyrights.

    On the other hand, unless you've physically ripped code or content out of StarCraft or WarCraft and put it in your game, any claim that your game is "too similar" to theirs seems absurd and almost certainly has no basis in copyright or trademark law. If you ignore them on that issue, then they are almost certain to go away.

    And if they don't go away nicely, the resulting outrage over their persecution of the open source community would almost certainly force them to go away ashamedly.

    But if you just cave in, and you fail to stand up for your rights when presented with this sort of threat, then you are certain to lose your rights.

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