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Smart Cellphone Would Spend Your Money

jonknee writes "MobileTracker pointed to an article in the latest New Scientist about some new 3G mobile phone software that tries to learn your habits and start making your decisions for you. This sounds like science fiction, but it's happening now. The phone will be able to make reservations for you at your favorite steak house and then save seats for you at the hot event in town. Neat!"

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  1. Scheduling? by Bob+McCown · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hope it checks with my calendar to make sure I'm free for that friday night concert!

  2. remeber TiVo by QEDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Hey, the other consumer electronic that guessed what you liked was TiVo, and everybody complains about how it assumes the wrong stuff all the time. How can this be better, or 'neat' then? I don't want my electronics to guess what I want, I want them to be predictable. That is the only way i can rely on them, if I can predict them, instead of the other way around.

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    1. Re:remeber TiVo by gfody · · Score: 4, Insightful

      but when tivo guesses wrong the only thing it costs you is some redeemable hard disk space. imagine if it cost you $$$$$

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    2. Re:remeber TiVo by koreth · · Score: 2, Insightful
      everybody complains about how it assumes the wrong stuff all the time.

      Funny, I don't remember complaining about that. TiVo's suggestions have turned up several interesting shows I wouldn't have noticed on my own. And the ones I'm not interested in, well, it's not like they do anything but eat up disk space that would otherwise be empty, so no harm done.

      I've had decent luck with automated recommendation services, e.g. Netflix's movie suggestions. I wouldn't necessarily be nuts about Netflix sticking movies into my queue without asking (and I wouldn't want my cellphone spending my money without asking, which frankly I doubt would be the default anyway) but well-founded recommendations based on cross-referencing my habits with those of a large sample group of other people? Sure, I'm all for it.

  3. mess up my life? by gfody · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It might sound like a bankruptcy waiting to happen, but software engineer Nick Jennings is supremely confident the phones will not mess up anybody's life.

    If you have to tell people "dont worry it won't mess up your life", I think you might have problems.

    Like the robo-maid that cooks and cleans- don't worry it won't murder your wife and kids in their sleep.

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  4. New definition for viral marketing by HardcoreGamer · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I can't wait until the mobile virus-loaded spam and SMS messages I'm going to get on my 3G phone corrupts the agent software on this "smart" phone and signs me up for all sorts of mortgages, prescription drugs, porn, printer cartridges and tropical vacations galore.

    Viral marketing. Priceless.

  5. Agents by DOsinga · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Weren't software agents going to do this a few years ago? Learning your habbits from browser and going out there, negotiating deals with other agents. History does repeat itself, especially the things that didn't happen.

  6. Read the article... by terradyn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Before there are too many replies about how it can't decide what you want to do for you, the article states that the software makes it's decisions based on information from your calendar entries. It will learn what your preferences are for specific types of entries.

    The main section about how it works in the article is this:
    The software's main focus is to recognise when you have a trip coming up in your diary, and then ask if you want it to check the availability of flights and hotels. In time, Jennings hopes you will decide to trust it to book the entire trip, choosing your preferred seating, route, day trips - and even allowing it to spend cash.

    The cellphone agents only offer help if triggered by a diary event or if a definite pattern of behaviour, such as going to the movies every Friday, has been established.


    The only thing I can't quite figure out is how it's going to reserve a spot at my favorite steak house given that it doesn't have an electronic reservation system =P. Airlines reservations, etc are all fine and dandy but many of my appointments aren't something software can handle without human intervention and if it was handled by an intermediary person, then we'd have many more privacy issues to worry about.

  7. How about SERVICE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about they make a phone and a service plan that gives you quality connections and no dropped calls? Why do I need phones that wipe my butt for me but can't make a phonecall?

  8. Re:Neat! by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with devices like these is that human nature is the most illogical thing in the world. People love something one minute and hate it the next, you can't predict people's actions and decisions as much as you might think.

    This _might_ be useful for the running-like-clockwork suits that have a strict routine: getting the same train everyday, having lunch at the same restaurant etc. but even then you're still gonna get a lot of incorrect purchases/bookings.

    Computers should automate boring/repetitive tasks to make our lives easier. I don't know about you but I quite enjoy the excitement of booking a holiday or enjoy the experience of booking a fancy restaraunt for a big dinner.

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  9. Re:Neat! by SunPin · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My first thought was, "why the hell is this neat?"

    This phone has moved to the upper region of my DO NOT BUY list.

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  10. No more features by magic · · Score: 5, Insightful
    New features are great, but only when a product is already as good as it can be. I can now buy an NGAGE phone that is a lousy GameBoy rip-off, a phone that takes pictures, a phone that acts like a Palm Pilot, and now, a phone that acts like a significant other with my credit card number.


    What I can't buy is a phone that is a really good telephone. I want a phone that gets great reception, has accurate voice recognition and a sane user interface, a good speaker and microphone, and talks to my computer via USB or IR instead of a $100 proprietary dongle. In other words, I want a phone that does all of the things modern cell-phones do, but does them well.


    -m

  11. "smart" by carpe_noctem · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I, for one, am tired of the adjective "smart" being used with devices that are really quite stupid, in an attempt to make them seem less harmful by marketing weenies. From now on, whenever someone decides to make a "smart" product, I expect nothing short of something that can walk my dog, do the dishes, and pass the Turing Test. ;p

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  12. Re:Japan by Idarubicin · · Score: 3, Insightful
    While us Americans are chuckling and wondering why anyone would want this, as many posts are showing...

    In Japan is is absolutely critical for every teenage girl to have exactly the same stuff as every other, or else she faces some rather severe social consequences. It's no secret that these girls/sheep run the Japanese economy.

    Yes. It's a good thing teenage American girls don't run their own economy...

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  13. sort of off topic but... by Doppler00 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cingular now has this dumb promotion for the charlies angels movie where you send a text message to "ANGELS" or something like that and it enters you to win. Up to 4 times a day too.

    So the who goal of the promotion is to get ignorant people to waste $0.10 a message and make Cingular some extra money (quite a bit if you add it up).

    Could you imagine this new technology where your phone buys things for you being abused by your cellphone provider? I can.

  14. this will happen overtime by cornjones · · Score: 3, Insightful

    alot of people are replying that they wouldn't want the phone making the decisions for them, spending their money. Over time, this is exactly what is going to happen. The article says people will have to confirm the choices until the give teh power to the phone. The idea being that they get sick of checking the phone and always saying yes. once it gets to that point you just tell the phone to do it and you can check if you feel like it.

    This has already happened to alot of us w/ our spam filters. when i first set up spamassassin I filter everything to a separate folder. I would then check that folder for false positives. There were few enough false postives (i think i have gotten 1, but then agian I have stopped checking B) anyway... there were few enough false positives that I switched everything to go straight to the delete box. If I feel like it I will check but generally it just gets deleted. Because everytime i checked, the computer was making the right decision. People are lazy, giving power over your money seems like a big step but if it keeps making the right choice eventually you will just let it go...