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Culture Clash: SCO, OpenLinux, Linus And The GPL

hobsonchoice writes "SCO has issued a letter saying SCO Linux customers won't be sued. The same does not seem to apply if using a non-SCO distribution such as RedHat." LightSail points to the SCO letter itself, and raises an interesting point: "If they approve the use of 'their' IP in Linux in a single kernel, then the GPL holds that IP SCO allows to be used by a select few must be freely released to any and all. It appears that all Linux users everywhere were just given a license to continued use of Linux even if SCO would win their suit with IBM." And Haikuu writes "eWeek recently posted an interview conducted by e-mail exchange with Linus Torvalds regarding his recent move to the OSDL and the SCO suit."

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  1. looks better with line breaks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    SCO will die
    Linux will always prosper
    so will IBM

  2. Why doesn't someone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Set up Scodot.org, and then all the SCO news can be there. That would make me happy.

  3. Is it worth it? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Funny

    I mean, should we switch?

    How much suffering would you have to endure before you'd use Caldera on all your servers to make it stop?

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    -1 Uncomfortable Truth
    1. Re:Is it worth it? by perp · · Score: 5, Funny

      How much suffering would you have to endure before you'd use Caldera on all your servers to make it stop?

      At this point, I think it would take me and my loved ones being flogged with bundles of stinging nettles that have been dipped in hot sauce and rolled in salt, while listening to Celine Dion sing that Titanic song accompanied by an orchestra of bagpipes. In Hell.

      --
      There are two kinds of sysadmins: paranoids and losers. I'm both kinds.
    2. Re:Is it worth it? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shit. They would have had me at Celine Dion...

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      -1 Uncomfortable Truth
  4. It's a numbers Question here by infonography · · Score: 5, Funny

    Of course SCO Linux users won't be sued. There are too few to make it worth while.

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    Sorry about the writing. Robot fingers, you know? Cliff Steele in DOOM PATROL #23
    1. Re:It's a numbers Question here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Wait, SCO Linux still has users?

  5. SCO shoots both it's own feet.... by deanj · · Score: 5, Funny

    Man, just as soon as SCO shoots itself in both feet during the past couple of weeks, it finds a third foot, and shoots that.... ....oh wait... that's not a foot.... ....ouch....

  6. Nice Quote from Linus by jpetts · · Score: 5, Funny

    Interviewer: SCO alleges that you need to focus more on getting clarification as to where the code that goes in the Linux kernel comes from.
    Linus:I allege that SCO is full of it.

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    Call me old fashioned, but I like a dump to be as memorable as it is devastating - Bender
  7. Obligatory Simpsons Quote by tpengster · · Score: 5, Funny
    SCO has issued a letter saying SCO Linux customers won't be sued.

    Sideshow Bob: The following neighbourhood residents will not be killed by me: Ned Flanders, Maude Flanders, Homer Simpson, Marge Simpson, Lisa Simpson, that little baby Simpson...that is all.

    [Homer runs up to Bart's room]

    Homer: Woo-hoo! Did you hear that Bart? Heh--oh...

  8. Silly SCO by MalleusEBHC · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess we know where all the 2449 votes for "GP-who?" came from now.

  9. That hole just keeps getting deeper by Trogre · · Score: 1, Funny

    So what do you reckon SCO's chances are of making it to their own "SCOForum" (17-20 August)?

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    "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
  10. Re:viral nature of GPL. by MrLint · · Score: 2, Funny

    You mean SCO jumped into the GPL pool without their crack team of lawyers reading it first? Say it aint so.

  11. It will soon be pronounced ... by puckhead · · Score: 3, Funny

    Eye-Bee-Em Linux

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    Watching Cowboy Bebop in my jammies, eating a bowl of Shreddies.
  12. In Defense of SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    Every day I log onto Slashdot, and every day it's another story about how SCO is trying to destroy the Linux community. And comment after comment does nothing but attack SCO. I for one am getting tired of this. I think it's about time that somebody stood up and took stock of all that SCO has contributed to the world. So here, then, is my own personal account about how SCO has changed my life for the better.

    It was the winter of 1988, and I was a student at the University of California at Santa Cruz. One night, I went to the Wednesday juggling group, and I met this woman named Lynn. Lynn was in an on-again, off again relationship that at the moment was off again.

    Well, by the end of the evening, Lynn and I had a date to go hiking that weekend. We went out for a hike, and one thing led to another, and the next thing you knew we went back to my dorm and slept together.

    We continued on like this for a few weeks, merrily boinking away, and then I went away for spring break. When I returned, Lynn told me that she had gotten back together with her old boyfriend. It was no huge loss where I was concerned, and I was grateful for all the good times.

    Now how does this relate to SCO, you ask? Well, it turns out that Lynn worked for SCO. At the time, Santa Cruz had no technology companies to speak of. So it stands to reason that if it weren't for SCO, Lynn likely would have found work in some other town, and we would never have met.

    This is all a round-about way of saying that SCO got me laid. Which sort of pales in significance to who owns what lines of code or what licenses were or weren't handed out. Yet it seems the Slashdot crowd is obsessed with this technical minutia, and purposefully ignores all the great things that SCO has undoubtedly contributed to this world. Like getting me laid. So, people, please get it together and be a bit more objective about this great company.

    1. Re:In Defense of SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      This is clearly a lie. No one who ever attended a "juggling group" ever got laid. Even in Santa Cruz.

    2. Re:In Defense of SCO by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      Oh no, you're screwed (no pun intended).
      • Did Lynn make you sign an NDA so you couldn't "sleep and tell"? Are you in violation now for revealing your experience?
      • I hope you didn't get her pregnant. She'd look at the kid, with 1/2 her DNA, and think of that kid as her own IP. She'd then find out the child also had 1/2 of your DNA, which she'd claim also as her IP by extension. Then she'd accuse you of stealing your kid's DNA and implanting it in your own body. Genetic testing and gene similarities would provide her the evidence to prove you stole your child's DNA.
    3. Re:In Defense of SCO by SoulDrift · · Score: 3, Funny

      It's a lucky thing that you and her didn't have any children... SCO might have tried to class them as derivative works.

      And then you'd be in a *whole* lot of trouble. ;-)

  13. Wrong SCO by gotr00t · · Score: 3, Funny
    Actually, yes, that was the old SCO, the GOOD SCO. Then, they sold their UNIX assets to Caldera, and then Caldera called themselves SCO.

    So, the SCO back then was GOOD the SCO now is BAD

    Don't think that they're the same company cause they're not. It used to be about UNIX, now it's about using UNIX to sue people to earn profit.

  14. SCO Trial by Billly+Gates · · Score: 3, Funny
    IBM Lawyer: The code in question is from AIX and not systemV. How can you claim ownership?

    McBride: My precious was birthday present YESS

    IBM Lawyer: What are you talking about?

    McBride: Its what has it got in my pocketses.

    IBM Lawyer: You do not even have the source code do you?

    McBride:Did we say so, precious? Cross it is, impatient, precious.

    IBM Lawyer: Your honor, since SCO can not even have the code they therefor have no ownership. I have the source code here and ....

    McBride: MY PRECIOUS! THEIF, theif IbM! We hates it FOREVER! My PRECIOUS!

  15. Yikes by Faust7 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Interviewer: ...where the code that goes in the Linux kernel comes from.

    Linus: I allege that SCO is full of it.

    Watch out, SCO is just nutty enough to take that the wrong way.

  16. dynamic IP by Graspee_Leemoor · · Score: 5, Funny

    Ha, I pity SCO with their static IP!

    I have dynamic IP.

    Yesterday I owned the rights to Wireless Toasters, and the day before it was me who invented a certain sort of plastic sheathing suitable for undersea cables, tomorrow it may be me who invented tcp/ip!

    Oh the excitement of dynamic IP...

    graspee

  17. SCO hiding facts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    With each statement made by SCO, I become more and more confident that the Iraqi Information Minister is alive and well and it is HE who is truly behind all of this. Who else could possibly have such a complete grasp of the opposite of reality?

    Think about it - he disappears and the SCO FUD machine cranks up. Coincidence? I don't think so.

  18. 20 years is a long time by symbolset · · Score: 4, Funny

    We look forward to helping you and your customers meet your business needs for the next twenty years. -- Optimist Darl

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  19. STOP THIEF!! SCO is ripping off SUSE! by pair-a-noyd · · Score: 2, Funny

    go to ftp.sco.com and browse around.
    (/pub/scolinux/ipfserver/4.0/SRPMS)
    They are distributing YAST.
    THIEF!!!

  20. Re:SCO thinks the GPL is a joke by The_Dougster · · Score: 4, Funny

    Yes but that gives me karma and takes away theirs... W00T!

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    Clickety Click ...
  21. See sco run by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2, Funny
    See SCO.
    See SCO lie.
    See stocks fly.
    Fly stocks, fly!
    See Gartner blow.
    SCO stocks grow!
    Grow stocks! Grow!
    See Novell.
    See Novell smack,
    Smack SCO! Smack!
    See IBM.
    See IBM laugh.
    SCO lawyers barf.
    SCO stocks cut in half.
    See SCO.
    See SCO whine.
    SCO says "It's mine!"
    See IBM.
    IBM puts foot down.
    SCO execs start to drown.
    Drown SCO, drown!

  22. Re:stay away from sco by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Here is my take on the whole thing....

    See SCO.
    See SCO lie.
    See stocks fly.
    Fly stocks, fly!
    See Gartner blow.
    SCO stocks grow!
    Grow stocks! Grow!
    See Novell.
    See Novell smack,
    Smack SCO! Smack!
    See IBM.
    See IBM laugh.
    SCO lawyers barf.
    SCO stocks cut in half.
    See SCO.
    See SCO whine.
    SCO says "It's mine!"
    See IBM.
    IBM puts foot down.
    SCO execs start to drown.
    Drown SCO, drown!

  23. crackrock by boots@work · · Score: 2, Funny
    From the letter


    In addition, new customer sales indicate that there is still no better option for rock-solid, dependable technology for their core businesses than our SCO UNIX solutions.


    Yeah, right. I hope SCO sober up before they go to court.
  24. Re:Exactly what constitutes a SCO customer by croddy · · Score: 2, Funny
    echo Caldera Linux Release 1 > /etc/caldera-release

    all fixed!

  25. Re:Pronounciation? by BELG · · Score: 2, Funny

    After recent events, I pronounce it as "SUCK'O".

  26. Re:SCO thinks the GPL is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They'd be better off using CVS instead of their god awful Visual Sourcesafe, thats for damn sure.

  27. Re:SCO Letter by Fishstick · · Score: 3, Funny

    I must not tell lies... OW!
    I must not tell lies... OW!
    I must not tell lies... OW!


    God she's a bitch.

    --

    There is much cruelty in the universe, John.
    Yeah, we seem to have the tour map.

  28. A serious contender? by josquin9 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Remember all those years when the big boys were all saying "linux will never be a serious operating system"?

    Couldn't Linus just say "Yep, you were all right. The whole thing was a joke. Linux was always intended to be a comical OS."

    At that point I think we could claim the whole system falls under the category of parody, and the copyright issues should just go away. Right?

  29. Obligatory "Simpsons" reference by zurkog · · Score: 2, Funny

    SCO has issued a letter saying SCO Linux customers won't be sued.

    SideSCO Bob [on P.A.]: The following linux users will ~not~ be sued by me: SCO/Linux. That is all.

    SCO User: Woohoo! Did ya hear, Linus!? Hey---Oh.