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Gates and Security

An anonymous reader writes "Orwell was wrong about Big Brother! Microsoft founder and chairman Bill Gates told a homeland-security conference on Wednesday afternoon that Orwell's dystopian vision of the future, in which Big Brother used technology as a form of social control, 'didn't come true, and I don't believe it will.'" Other tidbits about this security conference: Gates had his own troubles with security (Drudge is copy-and-pasting from a subscriber-only Roll Call story). Gates is apparently trying to sell interoperability to HomeSec. Meanwhile, Microsoft viruses continue unchecked.

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  1. Gates and Security by bytes256 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Gates are definitely a good first step for security, if additional security is required, I would also recommend a pirhana infested moat and barbed wire fences.

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    1. Re:Gates and Security by Phroggy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gates are definitely a good first step for security, if additional security is required, I would also recommend a pirhana infested moat and barbed wire fences.

      In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates?

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    2. Re:Gates and Security by Oloryn · · Score: 4, Funny
      In a world without walls

      I would think the existence of Perl is proof this is not a world without walls.

  2. Big Brother? by SystematicPsycho · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought Bill Gates got voted off the planet, is he still here?

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  3. this is what it takes by L.+VeGas · · Score: 3, Funny

    Put bars on Windows and locks on Gates.

    Then I'll feel secure.

    1. Re:this is what it takes by wass · · Score: 5, Funny
      No no, look at it from the optimistic vantage point instead.

      In a world without walls, there's no need for Windows.
      In a world without fences, there's no need for Gates.

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  4. Obviously by Bame+Flait · · Score: 3, Funny

    Additionally, Mr. Gates is also expected to call upon renowned informaticist Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf to support his arguments.

  5. Re:Microsoft viruses? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Windows IS the virus!

  6. Re:Microsoft viruses? by jasonsfa98 · · Score: 2, Funny

    MS Windows is a virus:

    Here's what viruses do:

    1. They replicate quickly - okay, Windows does that.

    2. Viruses use up valuable system resources, slowing down the system as they do so - okay, Windows does that.

    3. Viruses will, from time to time, trash your hard disk - okay, Windows does that too.

    4. Viruses are usually carried, unknown to the user, along with valuable programs and systems. Sigh... Windows does that, too.

    5. Viruses will occasionally make the user suspect their system is too slow (see 2) and the user will buy new hardware. Yup, that's with Windows, too.

    Until now it seems Windows is a virus...but there are fundamental differences:

    Viruses are well supported by their authors, are running on most systems, their program code is fast, compact and efficient and they tend to become more sophisticated as they mature.

    So Windows is not a virus.

    It's a bug.

    From someone else ...

  7. 1984 by Waab · · Score: 5, Funny

    Gates told the Homeland Security folks all about how Palladium and other 'secure computing' initiatives will actually prevent the kind of scenario presented in Orwell's classic.

    When asked by Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge exactly how Palladium "relates to that one really neat Super Bowl commercial, the one with the running and throwing the hammer at the tv", Gates got a little red in the face and mumbled something about how that was the "wrong company."

  8. Re:Orwell's vision was true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    1984 was not a book that tried to predict the future.

    Then why did he timestamp it?

  9. Re:Microsoft viruses? by Baikala · · Score: 0, Funny

    What was that program that Will Smith uploaded to the alien mothership to put the system on it's knees?

    you're right, it was an image of windows 98.

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  10. Favorite quote from the link by deadsaijinx* · · Score: 2, Funny

    "The present reality is a middle-aged man with a worried expression and a big butt."

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  11. Re:Slashdot moderation by Baikala · · Score: 1, Funny

    Some people do yoga, some people take prozac... slashdoters flame microsoft.
    Diferent people deal with stress in diferent ways.

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  12. Re:Orwell's vision was true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    That said, many people (Myself included) would say that what we see now from our own, non-Communist Governments approximates pretty closely to the totalitarian regimes of 20th century communist states, and uses a few tricks that are used by INGSOC & Big Brother throughout 1984.
    That's so untrue! For example, a modern government would never attempt to control the language to prevent meaningful debate of international terrorism or the liberation of Iraq.
  13. Freakin' lasers by truthsearch · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't forget the freakin' sharks with freakin' laser beams attached to their freakin' heads. They've killed many an un-named henchmen.

  14. Reminds me of a poster I had 10 years ago by stox · · Score: 1, Funny

    A picture of an all seeing eye, with the caption "1984, we're behind schedule. National Security Agency"

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  15. Well then... by siskbc · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...you just have to fill that backdoor, then, don't you? I hear that's Gates' specialty.

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    1. Re:Well then... by pi+radians · · Score: 4, Funny

      ...you just have to fill that backdoor, then, don't you? I hear that's Gates' specialty.

      I don't get it....

      ... but I hear that Ballmer does, all the time.

      /rimshot

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  16. WOW! Imagine That! by w3weasel · · Score: 4, Funny

    The gov asks Billy what is best for their PC's and Billy advises a substantial deposit into his bank account.

    While I would hope that anyone advising the government would have our best interests at heart, I have to admit, if they were to ask me what was best, I would say that a substantial deposit into MY account would ensure national safety... hey, I'm only human!
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  17. The Devil Himself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Gates told a homeland-security conference on Wednesday afternoon that Orwell's dystopian vision of the future, in which Big Brother used technology as a form of social control, "didn't come true, and I don't believe it will."

    "The Greatest Trick the Devil Ever Pulled Was Convincing The World He Didn't Exist"

  18. the rest of the comment (as I see it) by pergamon · · Score: 3, Funny
    'didn't come true, and I don't believe it will.'
    ...until everyone switches to Palladium
  19. Re:Orwell's vision was true! by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Ignorance is Strength" has already been adopted by the American people.

  20. Re:A little too subtle by ATMAvatar · · Score: 2, Funny

    I'll trade you a pack of victory cigarettes for some of your freedom fries :)

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  21. True story by Anonymous+Psychopath · · Score: 3, Funny

    I once went to the white house with my wife and mother-in-law. My mother-in-law used her Citibank Visa with her photo on it as her picture ID. We got in. This is pre-911, of course, but still makes me laugh.

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  22. Re:Orwell's vision was true! by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2, Funny

    Those victimized by Statin and his ilk suffered under the yolk of oppression imposed by a militarisitic police state.

    I believe you have egg on your face.

  23. Re:Orwell's vision was true! by pmiller396 · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't know what you're talking about ....

  24. Re:Orwell's vision was true! by fupeg · · Score: 3, Funny
    Wow, this is such an elitist/arrogant/I'm-smarter-than-you/my-shit-don' t-smell post, even by Slashdot standards. This sounds like the kind of stuff that high schoolers or college freshmen say after a riveting philosophy class.
    I want government to provide a basic minimum of services
    but I thought you said ...
    I demand nothing of my government except that it mind it's own business
    but the truth comes out ...
    I want my participation to be voluntary so that I can put the forcibly removed 15-20% of my paycheck
    So the true reason behind your elitism, other than arrogance, is greed.
    I think I speak for a lot of slashdotters
    Stick to speaking for yourself please.
    Until most people understand at a gut-level that government is the atomic-bomb of social engineering
    That's right, everybody needs to be as smart as you right?

    I think you'd be interested in an active government if somebody was trying to rob your house.
    Or blow up your office building.
    Or hack your bank account.
    Or if you didn't have any freeways to drive on to get to work.
    Or if your house was flooded.
    Or if you lost your job and for some reason nobody seemed to realize how smart you were and give you a new one.
    Or if you were a scientist and wanted to research something completely impractical.
    Or if you had a smart child but couldn't afford to send them to college (where maybe they could become as smart as you).

    By trivializing what the government is responsible for, you show your own ignorance (despite the fact that you are clearly smarter than "the masses.") I'm not defending any characteristic of the American government, but before you propose a solution, make sure you understand the problem.