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Biometric Face Recognition Exploit

clscott writes "A researcher at the U. of Ottawa has developed an exploit to which most biometric systems are probably vulnerable. He developed an algorithm which allows a fairly high quality image of a person to be regenerated from a face recognition template. Three commercial face rec. algorithms were tested and in all cases the image could masquerade to the algorithm as the target person. Here are links to a talk and a paper. Unfortunately, biometric templates are currently considered to be non-identifiable, much like a password hash. This means that legislation gets passed to require hundreds of millions of people to have their biometrics encoded onto their passports. This kind of vulnerability could mean that anyone who reads these documents has access to the holders fingerprint, iris images, etc."

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  1. This problem is solved by redundancy by NumberField · · Score: 5, Funny
    This isn't a problem because most people have extras of the body parts used for most biometric schemes. For example, you probably a large supply of fingers (about ten), so it doesn't matter if a few get compromised. Similarly, if you have two eyes, it's not a big deal if your retinal print becomes known to bad guys.

    (P.S. Please no replies from humor-impaired folks.)

    1. Re:This problem is solved by redundancy by gerf · · Score: 4, Funny

      This isn't a problem because most people have extras of the body parts used for most biometric schemes. For example, you probably a large supply of fingers (about ten), so it doesn't matter if a few get compromised. Similarly, if you have two eyes, it's not a big deal if your retinal print becomes known to bad guys. (P.S. Please no replies from humor-impaired folks.)

      I don't get it. The way you're talking isn't in a standard joking format at all. Maybe you Canadians have a different sense of humor?

    2. Re:This problem is solved by redundancy by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny

      I don't get it. The way you're talking isn't in a standard joking format at all. Maybe you Canadians have a different sense of humor?

      Yeah really.

      In the States, all of our humor formats have been standardized by the Department of Homeland Security. Currently, I'm 80% done with my ISO9666 humor certification. When I'm done, everyone will be able to understand and interface with my humor.

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    3. Re:This problem is solved by redundancy by Xzzy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm sorry, go back and read chapter two, where they talk about humor types by geographic region. Your above intended format falls into "excessively dry", which if my memory serves is a method perfected, and quite jealously defended, by the British.

      American humor is expected to involve either bodily functions or blonde women.

      Failure to employ region-appropriate humor will potentially flag you for review as a potential terrorist.

    4. Re:This problem is solved by redundancy by nacturation · · Score: 3, Funny
      I don't get it. The way you're talking isn't in a standard joking format at all. Maybe you Canadians have a different sense of humor?

      If you *insist* on American style humor, here it is:

      [audience laughtrack #24]
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    5. Re:This problem is solved by redundancy by randyest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      This isn't a problem because most people have extras of the body parts used for most biometric schemes.
      It's not a problem at all. On the contrary, it is a really good discovery IMHO. The most important conclusion from this is (from the talk slides):

      Biometric software systems should provide yes/no only, with no match score values.

      My question is: why would the software systems ever need to give a match score value, instead of a yes/no answer in the first place? It's not like the algorithm developer is there operating the machine and can thus use the score result to help decide what to do with "near" matches. Most of the people using these machines, I would surmise, are pretty clueless about how they work (except in a very general sense, of course), so providing a score result would only be confusing and a potential source of misidentification:

      "Hmm, that John Doe matched with a score of 95, and it turned out not to be the guy, so this 94 score can't possibly really be Osama Bin Laden -- go ahead and let him on the plane with his antique ceremonial religious knives."

      Either the system thinks it knows the person's face, or it doesn't. That's all it needs to say. Saying just that and nothing more will protect privacy (in that you can't reconstruct the face without the template and quantitative match score results), and it will prevent operator confusion and some types of misapplication.

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    6. Re:This problem is solved by redundancy by YU+Nicks+NE+Way · · Score: 4, Funny

      Please put your tin-foil hat away. The incorrect use of humor will not flag anyone for review as a potential terrorist. There is no reason to be concerned that we will interfere with any humor-related deviance. It is only in those cases where individuals with perverted senses of so-called humor that pose a threat to our national security (as determined by our objective and reproducible criteria), and who aver themselves unwilling to participate in our voluntary humor-retraining camps, who will be marked for review. In order to reduce the number of individuals whose privacy will be sacrificed to review, we will use only publicly available data. In order to incentivize those who will be encouraged to attend humor-improvement camps, we intend to locate them in tropical locations near to the ocean, but not on US territory.

    7. Re:This problem is solved by redundancy by PaulBu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Maybe because in different situations different threshold would have to be applied. E.g., if it is a terrorist monitoring camera on a random street corner, it might not be feasible to unleash FBI agents after every guy who matched at 80%, but if that random street corner happens to be in Washington, DC across the street from the White House, 80% confidence might be a reason to trigger further actions.

      And if it is a camera in the cash machine and you claim that you are Joe and want to get your $500, you better match Joe's face at, say, 99% (it can also ask you to turn a bit and face the lens if your score is lower than some threshold.

      Another example, if an airport screener can realistically check 10 people out of a hundred, she chooses ones with the highest scores. Yes, it might mean that John Doe in your example will be checked, and Osama will be not, IF there are other 9 people in line with scores >=95.

      Algorithms used might be the same, but exact policy is implemented by taking scores into account.

      There is more than binary yes/no in this world...

      Paul B.

      P.S. Not that I know anything about the actual numbers or policies, but I can see the value of having the scores available to people who program the machine, but not necessarily to the screeners (if any) who operate them.

  2. Other systems too? by mgcsinc · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Personally I use BioPassword for authenticating my workstation using keystroke recognition, so I seem to be safe from the exploit as yet; holding an image up to a computer seems like it would require considerably less effort than attaching a PS2 device that typed at exactly the correct rate. Nonetheless, I wonder if this discovery will prompt the redesigning of the way user data is stored across the biometric spectrum, going as far as the oft considered-foolproof keystroke systems...

    1. Re:Other systems too? by spydir31 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Keystroke and timing capture/playback is trivial, I wouldn't go trusting that as secure.

    2. Re:Other systems too? by NixterAg · · Score: 4, Informative

      BioPassword unfortunately suffers from a habit of producing false rejections. It really diminishes its usability. BioPassword's best trait is that it doesn't require an additional hardware purchase to work. Several high profile banks inspected BioPassword to determine whether they could use it for identity authentication within the context of online purchases. They came to the conclusion that it wasn't usable enough.

      I think many people miss the boat when it comes to biometric identity authentication. The fact is, any security protocol can be exploited. The idea is to make it a protocol difficult enough to exploit so that it isn't in the best interests of an attacker to go after whatever is being secured. It's like cryptography. There is no unbreakable code or cipher, but there are codes that are difficult enough to break that it isn't worth the time or effort required to break them.

  3. paranoia by klokwise · · Score: 5, Funny

    maybe i should extend my tin-foil hat to a tin-foil facemask and a pair of shiny gloves... that way they'll never recognise me!

    1. Re:paranoia by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 2, Funny
      Yeah, There was news here a few months ago about this - it does exist.

      Problems include a high failure rate when women switched between high-heels and flats, etc...

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      Never been known to fail..."
    2. Re:paranoia by SoSueMe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Here is a little more on this.

    3. Re:paranoia by CVaneg · · Score: 2, Funny

      Man. I bet John Cleese could make a fortune teaching classes on defeating this system.

  4. One thing that is missing from "the spoof" by adzoox · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A local company to me, has a biometric scan + retina and thumbprint scan, but it also takes your body temp average/signature .... the combination of the three are pretty hard, if not impossible, to spoof. And, anyone that can, was going to break into your system anyway. (With the VERY expensive equipment and extensive knowledge it would take to reproduce all three)

    Sometimes we give criminals to much credit. Again, if it's someone that can go through all three of those, they were going to get past the toughest of Indiana Jones hurdles.

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    1. Re:One thing that is missing from "the spoof" by Emugamer · · Score: 5, Funny

      Biometric analysis equipment $250,000
      Staff time to implement new security procedures $12500
      Sledge hammer: $25
      Expression on the Project Manager's face after he realized he should have installed a better door: Priceless

  5. Old News by fobbman · · Score: 4, Funny

    The fallibility of biometric systems has been widely known since a scientific expose was released on the topic no less than five years ago.

  6. Re:At least a good guy discovered this by gregmac · · Score: 3, Funny
    It just goes to show that no matter what, things can be hacked/bypassed/etc somehow.

    Not anymore, Palladium is here to save us.

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  7. Yikes! by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Informative
    This means that legislation gets passed to require hundreds of millions of people to have their biometrics encoded onto their passports.

    So this means that spotty, streaky photo of me (or is it a dog .. a wombat maybe?) on the back of my CostCo membership card isn't safe! Just about anyone could march in the door, past their regorously trained staff and buy Boca Burgers for half off!

    Someone showed me a fake driver's license made by a "novelty" company. The only distinguishable difference was a missing apostrophe in the text on the reverse. It had holograms and everything. Thoughtfully, the company stated, "This is only for amusement value, illegal to use as ID", etc. Yeah, that should cover it.

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  8. Does the database depend on obscurity? by astrashe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've been curious about these databases and how they work. They have to take the images and proces them, presumably into some sort of n-tuple. And then they database that.

    But how will they handle changes? I mean, people will probably figure out how the recognition works, and learn how to trick it. If you know the scheme, it probably wouldn't be too hard.

    If they have a giant database of these n-tuples, generated from photos, will they have to recrunch every photo in the db when they want to improve the system, or respond to holes that emerge? I guess they'll have a lot of computer power, so it's probably not too bad.

    The thing that worries me about this stuff is the possibility that the crooks and terrorists will be able to defeat it trivially, but the average citizen will be tracked everywhere he or she goes.

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  10. Re:Facial recognition by Herr_Nightingale · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the point that EVERYbody is missing is that biometric authentication is inherently flawed - it's like a password that cannot be changed. Obviously there are innumerable flaws. How is this news?

  11. Joe Average User... by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Is going to be awfully put out when the authorities hold him because someone with his biometric pattern did soemthing highly illegal.

    He will be in the position of being assumed guilty because everyone know that biometrics don't lie and are completely infallable. Thanks to legislation like the DMCA, no one will testify that the systems are, indeed, very easy to compromise. It'll be illegal to talk about those aspects of security. Not that the law has ever stopped the black hats...

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    1. Re:Joe Average User... by Poeir · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Alphonse Bertillon advanced a system which would provide "unique" identification by taking measurements of various bones throughout the body. In 1903, two prisoners at the same facility were found to have almost identical Bertillion measurements, and the system was more or less scrapped. Modern facial recognition systems work in a matter similar to the Bertillion one, by comparing the ratio/measurement between various components of the face, like eyes, ears, nose, et cetera.

      Sir Francis Galton's work regarding fingerprints superceded the Bertillion system, and even that has shown some weaknesses. Overall, biometrics do not appear to be as secure as one would expect to me.

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  12. Not a surprise by Henry+V+.009 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Anyone who has done work on computer vision would have guessed this to be so. What would interest me is in how it would be possible to exploit the algorithms, i.e., how bad of a picture can you get away with? Certain images that might not look anything like a face to you or me will quite possibly be able to fool the system.

    The passport angle is probably a red herring though. The unreliability of photo identification is already known. Identity theft is simple and easy. Hell, here in New Mexico, we've already been the first state to accept 'Matricula Consular' cards as valid ID for driver's licenses. Matricula Consular cards, of course, are given out by Mexican embassies to undocumented Mexicans living in the US. By 'undocumented,' I mean illegal, of course. Check out the immigration reform site www.vdare.com for some more information on the subject.

  13. Biometrics 101 by stupendou · · Score: 2, Interesting

    While this is an interesting expolit, the sky isn't falling. Any and all biometric systems can be exploited, and in similar ways.

    However, for this particular exploit to affect passport security and the like, the entire system would have to be automated, so that there would be no one to notice the perpetrator was holding a photo of someone else in front of his face as he walked by.

    To guard against exploits like these in totally automated systems, the data that is fed into the matching system should be digitally signed, so that it is clear where the data is coming from
    (e.g. a real fingerprint sensor, etc.).

    Even so, a fake face or a fake finger can indeed spoof many biometric systems. Luckily, border crossings and airport security has humans in the loop to prevent these kind of exploits (or to accept bribes to allow them!).

  14. Ident-i-Eeze by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny


    There were so many different ways in
    which you were required to provide absolute proof of your iden-
    tity these days that life could easily become extremely tiresome
    just from that factor alone, never mind the deeper existential
    problems of trying to function as a coherent consciousness in an
    epistemologically ambiguous physical universe. Just look at cash
    point machines, for instance. Queues of people standing around
    waiting to have their fingerprints read, their retinas scanned, bits
    of skin scraped from the nape of the neck and undergoing instant
    (or nearly instant - a good six or seven seconds in tedious
    reality) genetic analysis, then having to answer trick questions
    about members of their family they didn't even remember they
    had, and about their recorded preferences for tablecloth colours.
    And that was just to get a bit of spare cash for the weekend. If
    you were trying to raise a loan for a jetcar, sign a missile treaty
    or pay an entire restaurant bill things could get really trying.

    Hence the Ident-i-Eeze. This encoded every single piece of
    information about you, your body and your life into one all-
    purpose machine-readable card that you could then carry around
    in your wallet, and therefore represented technology's greatest
    triumph to date over both itself and plain common sense.

    Douglas Adams

    Mostly Harmless

  15. RTFA yourself by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You don't understand what the article is talking about. When you enroll in a biometric system, the system itself -doesn't- match based on your picture, but on a 'template' which is created by taking your standard data and performing certain destructive operations to arrive to a much smaller 'template' which can still be used to identify you.

    This is very similar to the one-way hashing that happens with unix passwords, only that in this case the hashing is 'lossier' so you have 'confidence scores' instead of a black/white answer.

    The article shows that given this 'hashed' value you can recreate an image that has a good chance of not only being authenticated by the same system/algorithm (which already should be very hard, given the one-way nature of the templatization) =BUT= also by different systems!

    It also is really interesting how if you have access to the 'confidence score' outputted by the recognizer, you can take arbitrary images and blending/averaging them again come up with an image that works.

    This is definitely not useless news and will have quite some implications.

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    1. Re:RTFA yourself by dbrutus · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Did you notice that nobody's using biometric systems that aren't also sold to companies. All you really need is to have a front company that says it needs a secure biometric company id system. The same people that sold the US their system will happily sell you an exact copy scaled down to one site. Once you own the system, you can run it to your heart's content. You can get data off of passports and create proper fakes at your leisure.

      Total cost for piercing the false security of the system? Way to little to be a barrier to ObL.

    2. Re:RTFA yourself by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I originally thought the same, but have a look at slide 15, the researcher says:

      'Access to templates OR match scores implies access to biometric sample image' (emphasis mine)

      I originally thought that you needed both, but after re-reading the presentation a few times it seems the researcher has -TWO- different exploits, one which regenerates things from the biometric data (samples not shown) and the other which takes arbitrary pics and by using the match percentage iterates a few times until it finds something that passes.

      If I misunderstood and you need both things, please correct me.

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  16. How to fix the problem by Atario · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Make the cameras use x-ray backscattering (as in the earlier story today) of your face. Then in order to spoof the system, a printout of your picture (generated from the hash or not) would not work -- you'd have to build something that recreates your x-ray backscatter and show that to the camera. (I'm assuming that would be much more difficult, like making a sculpture out of meat or something -- anyone in the know wish to shoot down my theory?)

    Of course, then there's the issue of getting x-rayed in the face every time you walk in the door...

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    1. Re:How to fix the problem by agrippa_cash · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Or some face topography scheme (IR distance sensors etc...), or make people turn their head so that the computer has to validate x number of positions between a frontal and quarter profile. Thermal is too easy to fool. No doubt these methods also could be fooled and likely sucessfully reversed as well. But the more complicated the verification, the more complicated circumvention will have to be. It appears that the currenet scheme is easier to circumvent than impliment.

  17. Not as significant as you might think by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This isn't such a big deal for face recognition systems, because face recognition systems suck at identifying people anyway. Why? First a little tereminology:

    With any biometric matcher you have to define a match "tolerance", which defines how close a pair of templates (usually one from a database and one from a livescan) have to be before they're considered to be a match. Set this tolerance too "loose" and you get lots of false positives (matches that shouldn't match), set it too "tight" and you get the opposite, false negatives. The tolerance setting where you get roughly the same number of errors each way is called the equal error point, and the error rate is called the equal error rate (abbreviated ERR for some unfathomable reason).

    Well, all current face recognition systems have an ERR that is too high to be useful in nearly any situation, even when used for identity verification, as opposed to the much-harder problem of identification (verification: I say I'm Bill Gates, and the system agrees; identification: The system says I'm Bill Gates, not RMS or anyone else). It's possible that in the future this will change, of course.

    However, this doesn't really matter because we already have ready access to an excellent and very widely available face recognition system: the Mark I eyeball. Millions of years of evolution have made people extremely good at identifying and matching human faces. What people aren't so good at (with notable exceptions) is matching a face against a database of thousands of faces they've seen only once, and *that* is something that face recognition systems can do extremely well. They may not be able to decide which faces are a "match", but they can do an excellent job of finding the *closest* faces, which can then be reviewed by the super-duper face-matching algorithm contained in the average person's head.

    When automated face recognition is used in that sort of context, spoofs like this one are unlikely to be very useful; if you want to impersonate someone you'd better get a face that's good enough to fool another human. It's doable, certainly, but much harder. And holding a laptop screen in front of your face is likely to raise some suspicions.

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  18. Better Than by somethinghollow · · Score: 3, Funny

    At least I don't have to cut someone's fingers off/eyes out/head off/etc. to get past these types of security measures any more.

    Whew! What a relief.

  19. Re:I don't have one, do you? by warloch71 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Last time I checked, you didn't need a passport to fly within the US, to buy a car, to rent a movie...big deal I say. You DO know that Planet Earth doesn't stop at the US border, don't you ?

  20. Re:Sounds easy to fix... by jonatha · · Score: 2, Insightful
    Unlike all the *other* problems with biometrics, like false positives/false negatives/gelatin sheet spoofing, showing the camera a photograph, etc., this one seems like it should be easy to solve: don't store the biometric data, instead, treat it like a password and store a cryptographic hash of it instead.

    The paper explicitly covers encryption, etc., of the data.

    Any system that uses the data to decide whether or not the presented (fake) pattern matches the template is subject to this attack, i.e., hashing the data won't help.

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  21. Re:Sounds easy to fix... by robindmorris · · Score: 2, Informative

    If you bothered to RTFA (I know, this is /.), you would find that this exploit does not need access to the biometric data, instead it only needs access to the scoring function.

    Put simply:
    1. start with some random face
    2. ask the system to compute the recognition score for this face
    3. make changes to the face
    4. compute the new score
    5. if the score is higher, keep the change to the face, if the score is lower, reject the change
    6. goto 3

    You'll notice that nowhere do you have to look at the biometric data itself. You only have to ask the system to compute the recognition score (for which it comes with a handy api).

    Actually, this idea is so brilliantly simple, that I'm annoyed that I didn't think of it myself (it relates closely to a bunch of work I've done on image reconstruction.

  22. Everyone has missed the point by SiliconEntity · · Score: 5, Informative

    Every comment I have read has missed the point!

    This is not an exploit designed to show that biometric systems can be fooled or that you could create some kind of fake image that would match an existing one.

    The whole point is that this shows that biometric templates are privacy-sensitive. Previously it was thought that they could be stored and promulgated without interfering with anyone's privacy, because it was thought to be infeasible to start from the template and reconstruct personally identifiable information about the subject.

    The new paper shows that this is not true; from the templates, you can reconstruct an identifiable picture of the individual. That means that, for example, if you had a bunch of templates of people who went in for an AIDS test, you could re-create pictures of the people who went in, adequate to recognize individuals.

    This would therefore interfere with the privacy of those individuals. And that implies that templates need to be subject to the same kind of privacy restrictions as other forms of personally identifying information, a standard to which they have not traditionally been held.

    And that's the point of the paper.

  23. Simple algorithm. It works. by jetmarc · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The algorithm they used is simple. They use the face recognition
    system as "oracle" and present different images until the match
    is achieved. The different images are not chosen at random, but
    rather evolutionary. That is, a selection of images is presented,
    and the best (highest score) is chosen. Recursively, new selections
    are derived from the best image, and again presented to the oracle.

    According to the article 24,000 images are necessary to achieve
    convergence, when the initial images were specifically chosen to
    NOT be visually similar to the "target" image.

    Some oracles can't be questionned 24,000 times - eg at an airport
    or an ATM machine. You might become arrested long before finished.

    However, often press releases indicate which company designed the
    software for a particular implentation of face recognition. You
    can easily purchase other software of the same company (or find
    an OEM product) and thus have the same (or very similar) oracle
    on your desk at home. There you can do the 24,000 iterations to
    get ahold of the "good" image and then proceed to remodel your
    face or whatever way you intend to "present" the image to the
    real face recognition system.

    In my opinion, biometrics just doesn't work for security. Because
    everyone is open to see the datasets.

    Just look at those stupid press releases of Siemens/Infineon, who
    make high-payed security engineers invent ATM cards with finger
    print sensors. Owners finger print => money from ATM. Where does
    owner leave his finger print, when handling the card? Couldn't be
    on the very ATM card, possibly?

    Acceptable security requires

    a) something you have, and

    b) something you know.

    When the item you have is stolen, the thief lacks the information
    you know. And vice-versa, when the secret is learned (eg shoulder
    surfing at ATM), the item you have still misses to complete the
    electronic robbery.

    Biometrics is something you have, not something you know. That is
    the key thing to learn here!

    It can be copied, without your noticing, but that doesn't make it
    category b). It still is something you have, because everybody has
    access to it when he's physically near to you. You can't just shut
    up to make it stay secret.

    Therefore, biometrics won't (ever) work as long as it's coupled with
    other category a) stuff. A biometric dataset can possibly replace a
    physical token, but it can NOT replace a PIN code.

    I'm happy that this is once again demonstrated, with press coverage.

    Marc

    1. Re:Simple algorithm. It works. by FreezerJam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      >No. Biometrics is something you *are*.
      >A card or other token is something you have.

      Your finger and your face are "something you are".

      But the biometric is something you have.

      I can't "be you". But I can have your measurements. You are not your measurements.

  24. Not Surprising In Ottawa by Synesthesiatic · · Score: 2, Funny

    A couple of decades ago Ottawa was the world's coldest capital city (I forget what it is now). The saying goes that come it's impossible to tell people apart, because everyone's wearing parkas. Now there's a challenge for facial recognition!

  25. Think of what might happen to body parts by gotr00t · · Score: 3, Insightful
    When will people get concerned that their body parts are now vulnerable? Desperate criminals who want to infiltrate, or governments, for that matter, would find it rather suitable to simply kill a person and remove their face, eyes, fingers, etc., to use in a biometrics device.

    This is even easier to compromise than having a keycard or something, as the individual could at least hide it somewhere. They CAN'T hide their face without

  26. Not anything like a password hash by lkaos · · Score: 4, Informative

    A useful password hash (at least one that isn't considered to be plain-text equivalent) is a cryptographic hash. A cryptographic hash is one thought to be np-hard.

    For instance, take this simple hash:

    uint32_t hash;

    for (size_t i=0; i < str.length(); i++) {
    hash += str[i];
    }

    Given an input of say, foobar, one would get a hash of 633. Now, if I start with an arbitrary password of say, google, I get a hash of 637.

    Since I know that slight adjustments to the word, produce slight differences, I know that I can just start moving letters one space down the alphabet until I find a matching value.

    Lets say I choose:

    google -} 637
    foogle -} 636
    fnogle -} 635
    fnngle -} 634
    fnnfle -} 633 *bingo*

    So know I've successfully "exploited" this password protection mechanism.. This is why it's referred to as plain-text equivalent.

    A cryptographic hash though has the interesting proper that a small change results in a unpredictable different. For instance, in the same example you might get:

    google -} 3453
    foogle -} 234543
    fnogle -} 234
    fnngle -} 23425434
    fnnfle -} 53424 ...

    There's no reason biometrics can't be cryptographically strong. It's just that the algorithms currently being aren't. That's no big news for anyone with even half a clue stick.

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  27. Oh, really? Didn't Roger Wilco already do this? by willith · · Score: 3, Funny

    "He developed an algorithm which allows a fairly high quality image of a person to be regenerated from a face recognition template..."

    This kinda reminds me of the part in Space Quest III, where you gain access to the restricted area inside ScumSoft by holding up a xeroxed picture of the CEO's face to the facial recognition scanner.

  28. Sorry, not comparatively hard by mattr · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Nope, check out this.

    An associate of mine runs a small factory in Japan where they make 3d-printers, much of the technology is from Texas-based DTM. Can't find their homepage, I think they might be owned or were by BFGoodrich. Many companies use their Sinterstation, which uses a laser to fuse nylon or metal powder deposited in thin layers inside the production bay.

    The machines are I believe in the hundreds of thousands of dollars each but they are used to make prototypes like mobile phone shells, or molds as for experimental automotive parts.

    Anyway nylon is easy, but they also have a rapidsteel process and the holy grail I understand is titanium, which would allow you to create surgical implants like joint replacements. As you can see in the link above, you can already pretty easily produce a 3d model of your skull from Cat-scan tomography. I've only seen plastic versions, though they might be more appropriate to trying to mimic x-ray backscatter from bone, and much cheaper than going through the trouble of making a mold, pouring metal, and finishing it. Hospitals are probably a lot easier to penetrate than these biometric systems. Come to think of it, you could skip the biometric penetration and just use anthropological techniques to build a face over the skull based on known data about skin depth at different parts of the skull. Painting surface features based on a pictures taken with a telephoto lens would also be cheap compared to the price tag mentioned in this thread for biometric analysis equipment.