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Windows Tech Writer Looks at Linux

An anonymous reader writes "Three days ago I accepted Linux into my life and while I'm not yet a convert, the experience has shaken my faith in Windows. It's hard to reconcile because for nearly 20 years I've mostly stayed on the one true Windows path."

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  1. Re:20 years of windows by dna_(c)(tm)(r) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    But that is exactly one of the problems another contender (Linux, OS/2, ...) in the market faces. Users are so used to buying PC's with windows, they don't even consider a change.

    In this context, only OSS has a real chance of becoming relevant to 'house-garden-kitchen' users. Because it doesn't cost to test it out.

    What's interesting about the article is that it shows 'missionaries' spreading the news, might be an approach to enlarge the userbase

  2. Brand Loyalty Considered Harmful by eddy · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Yeah. Just today I saw a post by a web-designer, explaining how he/she had never used Mozilla.

    Sad, sad, sad.

    (as if the original topic wasn't sad enough)

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  3. Re:20 years of windows by Chyeburashka · · Score: 5, Interesting
    From the article:
    I was a disciple from the beginning when it was called Dos, and kept the faith through the buggy, painful years of Windows 1.0 to 3.11.
    Windows 1.0 was released around November 1985, so nearly 20 years is not an exaggeration, especially since he is counting the DOS days too.
  4. Re:Not Worth Our Time by TummyX · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I especially the last line.

    I think I'm becoming a believer.

    I've heard that so many times from so many people, but it always goes away after the "oooo new" factor wears off. They say it to sound "hip" and tech savvy.

    How long do you think it'll be before he deletes the partition and returns to windows full time?

  5. Defrag? by joto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No why on earth would he need to defrag his diskdrive before installing linux? There are two ways of doing this, either repartition the disk drive, or you install it on a FAT partition with the VFAT file system (not really recommended but it works). None of them requires defragmentation though...

  6. Did anyone notice? by Pettifogger · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Did anyone out there notice that a Linux Installfest is mentioned? The link to it is right here:

    http://installfest.linux.net.nz/

    As you can tell, it's only going on in New Zealand. Good for the Kiwis, but is there anything of the sort being done in the United States? I think we need Installfests here, too.

    As for the article, I think everyone should quit carping. This is good press for Linux. I had the same experience in March when I made the "switch" on my main PC. Only difference is that my machine does not dual boot, and I'd had Aurora Linux on a Sparc since December '02. At any rate, though, the message needs to get out that Linux *IS* a genuine alternative, and this article does just that.

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  7. Whats wrong with the article folks? by WegianWarrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having RTFA and most of the comments, I'm a bit baffeled by the slasdot community today. Even I see this not as a article in how to use Linux or anything, but more as the sort of commentary that you can read on page three of most computermagazines these days. Saying things like "we knew that" and "is this news" actually misses the point, as he isn't speaking to those who already uses Linux but rather to those who still sees Windows as the only operating system out there. He isn't preaching to the choir my friends, he is preaching to the heatens, like myself.

    The article / editorial / comment is more of a key than a crowbar... it may wet peoples appetite for the 'free*' OS they can get from their nerdy friends - even if the setup can be more of a hazzle than Windows is (well, than Windows can be; I used several hours patching up my spare PC yesterday after upgrading to XP). As such, I would say this is a good little article. He mentiones several of the pros of Linux, a few of the drawbacks, points out that it isn't a scary thing to try and that it is realivelty easy to do. He even adds a numer of links to distros, info on opensourse and the Linux Newbie Administration Guide... The only thing he don't add is the URL to knoppix so people could try Linux without having to change anything on their 'puter.

    *) However you want to define 'free' as far as Linux go...

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  8. Re:Not Worth Our Time by faaaz · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't think so.

    Using myself as an example:

    I was introduced to Linux far to early on in my life. I was young and running a turbocharged 166MHz when a friend brought over this Red Hat thingy. Installation went ok, but we could not get the modem to work. I never considered actually using Linux at that time, and my modem not working made me delete the partition and stick to Windows.

    Later on I tried using Mandrake on an off, it was perhaps version 7 or 8? I don't remember really.

    Anyway, about a year and a half ago I started using Mozilla full time and became aware of open source and it's principles. It was of course intriguing and all, and I became aware of other open source projects.

    In December 2002 I began using Mandrake 9 full time, reverted to using Windows again after one month.

    The experience left a mark, it's like tasting coffee for the first time. Even if you didn't like it the first time you end up loving it after a while.

    I have now used SuSE full time for a few months and I keep a windows-partition that is rarely accessed (the only app installed over a base install is mozilla ;).

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  9. I want to believe. by Glonoinha · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Ok, I want to believe. I honestly do.

    I loaded RedHat around version 5.1 or 5.2 long, long ago - dedicated a machine to it, got it working, don't remember any of the particulars such as which shell I was using, hell it was 5 years ago (plus or minus.)

    I got it running one afternoon, configured the modem (external modems by Hayes / USR - accept no substitutes) and got it talking to my ISP, used some version of Netscape that easily adequate for surfing at the time, I totally dug the 8-way virtual display under the GUI, I almost understood where everything on my drive was and why, had fun with the screen backgrounds (XEarth, etc..) and then ... what?

    What did I do next? Not much else to do. None of my apps (read : games) were available at the time for Linux. I was unable to find replacements for any of my tools (read : an XTree clone such as ZTree, Office, Visual Studio, Drive Image, etc.) - I know now that there is a viable replacement for Office, but my professional experience doing development is on the MS platform. I have an entire support system for coming up with software on the MS platforms that I just haven't found (either where to find, or even that they exist) for Linux.

    And of course there is the real reason we own home computers (and yes, I already mentioned it) : games. Flight simulators. Everquest (et.al MMORPGs) MechWarrior 2/3/4. Battles of Destiny. Yes, I know that Q3 is available on Linux, as is Unreal (well I believe it is) and the UT series. Anything else?

    And as for cost ... people please. XP you have to pay for. Win9x, WinME, Windows 2000 are pretty much available for the asking on a trial basis. Assuming people are actually purchasing their applications the OS is a tiny fraction of the overall cost when you include their 3D modelling package, Photoshop, Games (Q3A for Linux wasn't free last time I checked, nor any of the Unreal series.)

    I would love to run a Linux box at home if for no other reason than the cool 8-way virtual desktop in the GUI ... but I don't think I could find 8 apps to run, one for each virtual desktop.

    Linux is good enough. Quit making it better and spend some time coming up with apps - now THAT will get people to convert.

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    1. Re:I want to believe. by Trurl's+Machine · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Nethack and MAME. Really, those are just about the only two forms of computer entertainment I need, and they are certainly available on Linux (and Windows, and Mac, and even PocketPCs)

      And that's the problem! As long as gaming is concerned, Linux has exactly nothing to offer that wouldn't be available on other platforms - but some platforms do have lots of stuff that is not and will never be available on Linux. I think portability is both the biggest strength and weakness of the Free Software. For all its virtues, you end up in a situation when everyone else can do what you can do - but unlike you, the users of proprietary systems have their "exclusives" (like games or commercial apps).

      Oh yes, you can peek into the source code and they can't. But how many computer users actually care about the source code?

  10. Nice article by Cnik70 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's nice to see a good article like this one. Sure it lacks depth, but it shows that even a hard core Windows user can see what draws many of us to use Linux instead. I would love to see a similar article where various people are forced to give up using Windows (or Mac) for a week and made to use Linux for their daily PC routine (of course with someone to help them along the way nearby) to see how quickly they adapt to the new environment.

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  11. Linux is a victim of it's own success by Da+VinMan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What the hell does defragging have to do with anything?

    Maybe nothing. Maybe his buddies didn't know what they were doing. He is just the messenger here, so don't shoot. That said, it used to be that you needed a defrag to be able to do a OS multi-boot on the same physical drive. Isn't that still the case?

    Now for the meat...
    No, not all distributions are free. Some companies may choose not to GPL their proprietary bells-and-whistles, such as installers and configuration utilities. I also dislike this article's erroneous insinuation that all Linux software is free.

    You're absolutely correct. And it doesn't really matter one bit that you are correct. You see, the average person is quite content to use Windows until something better comes along. By something better, I mean it had better be (a) significantly faster/stable and/or (b) significantly cheaper and/or (c) significantly more feature rich (and easy to use) and/or (d) significantly more entertaining. Linux may or may not be faster/stable (it's debatable these days), it is more feature rich (but it's not easier to use), and it definitely is not more entertaining to the average person. So what does that leave? Cheaper. And how does every rabid Linux advocate start Linux evangelism? "Hey it's free! Here, take one."

    The fact is that Joe Blow will choose Linux over Windows when doing so allows him to dodge the extra $200+ of cost of Windows + Office on a new computer. Joe had also better not care that most of the new games out there won't be usable under Linux. THEN he will choose Linux.

    Don't get me wrong, I like Linux on the desktop. But please be realistic about why most people will choose it.

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  12. Good progaganda balances out the bad by Eminor · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know people may see this as "Propaganda", but considering the foothold Microsoft has on the industry, I think it's good to find more positive news relating to Linux. I find microsofts ad campain to be very propagandic. It's good to see some counter balance.

    This story reminds me of my own conversion. It wasn't that long ago (This January) that I switched over to Linux completely. I was quite impressed with all the applications and how well they worked. I have always been a fan of GNU tools. It's nice to have both without dual booting.