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Netscape 7.1 Released

Phil writes "Netscape has just released the eagerly-awaited Netscape 7.1 (previously known by its codename, 'Buffy') for Windows, Mac OS and Linux. The new version is based on Mozilla 1.4, which is due out later today. Netscape 7.1 features many improvements over 7.02 including even better CSS support, spam filters, find-as-you-type, automatic image resizing, more customization via about:config, Web development tools, Palm synchronization and more. Plus, for the first time, ChatZilla (Mozilla's IRC client) is included in the full install. More information can be found at Netscape Browser Central and in this MozillaZine article. The release is available from Netscape's download page, via FTP or on CD."

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  1. Re:Netscape? by agentZ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, because they (hopefully) will be feeding AOL with a new browser to wean users away from IE.

    That being said, however, what advantages does the Netscape version of Mozilla have?

  2. Re:Netscape? by Jack+Comics · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, I do care about Netscape. Not necessarily because I think Netscape is the raddest, most elite browser out there, but because without Netscape, there would be no Mozilla. Let's face it, Mozilla relies on Netscape, and as a result, AOL, for life support.

    If AOL should decide that Netscape isn't worth developing anymore, and decides to pull the plug on the few full-time Netscape/Mozilla developers remaining, as well as the resources dedicated to Netscape/Mozilla (such as the web servers), Mozilla would be in some serious doo-doo.

    To show my support and to show AOL that indeed at least someone is interested in Netscape, I have already pre-ordered a Netscape 7.1 CD with Guide book. I may not ever use it, but at least AOL and Netscape knows that someone out there appreciates their efforts and may continue developing the core for one of the finest browsers out there, Firebird.

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  3. Good - competition (!) by krray · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've been personally hooked on OS.X since its beta days. Originally the only games in town were OmniWeb (preferred), IE (ack), and Netscape (good 2nd choice).

    Back in my Windows days IE never really got my attention -- it was always Netscape (up to 4.79 was decent).

    The releases of Netscape that followed (Windows or OS.X) were pretty much not installed/forgotten. On the Windows end it was Mozilla/Opera and on OS.X 99% Safari.

    This Netscape will get installed and hit the distribution cycle. It is very fast on OS.X and worth taking a look at (!)

  4. Re:I'll continue to use Mozilla by garcia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I am VERY annoyed with AIM doing the same thing on Install.

    Click here to DE-SELECT Netscape.com as your homepage.

    Do you want AIM icons on your desktop and start menu (check here for no (each)).

    Yet the fucking installer STILL puts AIM icons (AOL for Broadband) on my Desktop and an AIM icon in the quick launch tray...

    Maybe if they stop this horseshit for AOL I will think about it. Until then I will stick with IE on my Windows machine.

  5. because by SweetAndSourJesus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A full reload is pointless on most sites. Why bother reloading title.gif when you want to see if there are any new slashdot stories? It's a waste of bandwidth.

    It sucks that the shift-reload trick is undocumented, but you could easily fix that.

    This is my 700th post. Hooray for me!

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  6. Re:Why are version numbers so uneven by arth1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Because Microsoft released Internet Explorer 5 -- Netscape wanted to be "one better".
    This numbers game is also why you now have Redhat and Mandrake 9 -- SuSE will surely follow suit, or jump to from 8.2 to 9 or 10 (even though SuSE 8.2 has more newer stuff than RedHat 9), knowing that customers are stupid enough to buy the highest number, even if the products are different.

    There's also the jump from SunOS 2.6 to Solaris 7 -- presumably to catch up with IRIX 6.2 and NT 4 and NT 5 (which Microsoft promptly relabeled 2000 to be ahead in the numbers game).

    Did I mention the jump from Java 1.1 to Java 2 (which is Java 1.2)? Or the weird BIND 4 to BIND 8 version jump?

    Now I'm saving to buy myself Windows 2003. Proof by numbers, it's *got* to be 0.15% better than Windows 2000!

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  7. ...and that's the reason. by mblase · · Score: 4, Insightful
    To the average user netscape and IE are the only two browsers in existence.

    ...And that's exactly why this is a good thing. If your Joe Surfer coworker or family member is complaining about, say, popup ads in IE, and you tell them about Mozilla, you have to explain what it is and why it's good and where they can get it, and then they'll forget the URL two minutes later anyway. Where if you tell them Netscape.com has the latest version of their browser and a built-in AIM client, they'll actually perk up and listen. You can educate them about the value of Mozilla later on when they're a little more savvy.

  8. Not so bloaty as before by mblase · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...for one thing, you can choose to install it without the mail/news or IRC chat client at all, cutting down on the size. Don't use the email, you don't need the Palm sync -- but those who do might appreciate it.

    If you get the browser, then you still get Composer with it at minimum. If you want a browser only, then feel free to contribute to the development of Mozilla Firebird, which is even more streamlined than the browser-only install.

    Chill out, the Moz developers know that bloat is a common complaint, and they're doing what they can about it. But one thing at a time, since every feature you don't want is one some other user can't live without.

  9. As an ex-Netscape hater... by AndyMoney · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... I have to say that Netscape/Mozilla has not only shocked me with improvements in reliability and speed, but has in fact pulled me away from IE/Outlook Express which I swore were the greatest Web/EMail tools. I remember back in the days of Netscape 4.X. The darn thing would take forever to load, suck up my computer's resources, and consistantly crash on specific web pages. Being a web-developer made it worse... It was such a pain having to remove nifty DHTML effects from my company's website (or incorperate code to modify HTML output for Netscape) because some people out there were still using it. I think I'm going too in depth on my point here... Compared to what Nescape USED to be, the current Mozilla/Netscape software is incredible. And this is coming from a WINDOWS user. ;) The best thing Nescape ever did was make their browser open srouce (in my opinion). And... The free Bayesian spam filter in the Mozilla mail client has amazed me. I NEVER thought that free technology existed that provided such reliable and accurate spam filtering. I am down from 14 spam messages per day to maybe 1 at most per day. I've only had 2 false positives since I started using it 3 weeks ago. Alright. I'll stop rambling on this matter. I've just been waiting a while now to outlet my good experiences with Mozilla, especially after hating it so much in the past. *Two thumbs up*

  10. Netscape is good by Bulln-Bulln · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yeah, Netscape is good. I haven't read all the comments here, but there are (as always) comments like ''Why not use Mozilla instead?''
    I tell you why:
    Netscape has more features and is easier for people without good computer knowledge.

    I prefer Mozilla Firebird, but the plain MF is not for normal users.
    They have to ''unzip'' it, they have to copy Flash and other plugins into the plugins directory, they have to install Java manually and so on.

    OTOH Netscape:
    It comes with good, licensed spell checking (sorry, but OSS spell checkers suck - at least non-english ones), there's AIM and ICQ support, all important plugins are bundled, and Netscape adds important settings to the Windows registry (the location where it's installed for 3rd party plugins - a small, but important setting).

    Currently I create installer builds of Mozilla Firebird (bundled with Flash and Java) for my friends, but that's only an acceptable solution for a handful of people.
    It's easier to point to a simple URL than giving a CD with my custom MF to everyone.
    Yes I know, there are also installer builds of Mozilla Firebird available on the net, but that's sometimes even too complicated for a few of my friends.
    When I say ''Get Netscape. It's on Netscape dot com.'' It's easy.
    When I say ''Get Mozilla Firebird. It's on geocities dot com slash blablabla slash ... umm... sorry, I forgot the adress. I tell you tomorrow.'' It's more coplicated. Also: what happens, if the person does not provide the installer any more? Who guaranties me and my friends that the webpage is still up in a month or two.
    AOL is behind Netscape. I can be sure that Netscape will last a while. Netscape is easy to find, easy to install, and easy to use. That's why Netscape is good.

  11. Re:I'll continue to use Mozilla by Jellybob · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The "Netscape Staff" and "Mozilla peeps" are often the same people... and you want to thank someone for an awesome browser, that would be Netscape your thanking, for open sourcing their product.