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Cracking the Quicksilver Code

wka writes "Todd Garrison describes in detail how he solved the cryptographic puzzle promoting Neal Stephenson's forthcoming book Quicksilver, and the reward for his effort. Stephenson himself calls Garrison's story 'remarkable' because Garrison was completely unfamiliar with the system of writing (Real Character) used in the puzzle. Also, Stephenson notes that the system and its creator play roles in The Baroque Cycle."

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  1. Wilkins' "universal" language is English? by Cthefuture · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't get it. Maybe I should go read up on Real Character, but it just sounded like a different way to write english.

    I mean, the english language was broken down and made into a script of symbols to words. Like Chinese and other complicated languages except more ordered... I assume.

    What's the deal? That doesn't sound universal or even particularly interesting. I mean, they had to "hack" the language to get things like "fax" and other modern concepts into it.

    Maybe I'm just missing something (a healthly brain?) :)

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    1. Re:Wilkins' "universal" language is English? by Dashmon · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What I think Real Character does is break up not the english language, but the ideas the words in that language represent. Those ideas exist in almost all languages for the largest part - so if you know what eacht "break up" means, you get a description of what the character means, in your own language.

      The system might, for example, have a way of saying "this word is a noun, it's something abstract, it's something postive", etc., and you might end up with something that can only mean "good". "Good" in itself is an english word, but if you know the sytem, you could still apply it using another language, and come up with the meaning of the character in your language, or, if you're advanced enough, you might be able to understand the meaning without having to translate (that's how really knowing a language works - you know what is ment by words without having to think about/translate them).

      That way, this system'd allow for people who speak totally different languages to understand eachother by describing the meaning of words using a universal system. At least, that's what I think it does. Can anyone confirm?

    2. Re:Wilkins' "universal" language is English? by Dashmon · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, what makes it truely universal is that you describe words with graphical properties rather than by having a word for each concept, so it's not really a language, but rather a way of describing parts of a language. What practical uses it has? I'm not sure, but I suppose it could be useful in some cases. Imagine a 17th century englishman trying to communicate with a chinese scholar who don't speak any other languages, other than their native ones. If they'd both understand this universal system, they could still write to eachother without having to learn another language, which is significantly harder than learning this system, judging by how quick that guy got the hang of it. I don't think it's any good anymore these days, though, now that everyone speaks a common language or two

  2. Deciphering and the hacker mystique by Gizzmonic · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Although he doesn't seem to understand a lot of the underlying technicalities, Stephenson seems to have a poking hard-on for crytography. The science of "hacking" has become the sexy niece of the more stolid scientific arts, validating anyone who's ever pushed a slide rule or logged on to a serial console.

    Bestselling yarns from Stephenson, Tom Clancy, and others get a lot of praise from geeks. Geeks are usually notoriously persnickety about minutae, but it seems that beloved authors like Stephenson and the late Douglas Adams get a free pass.

    What is it about the relationship between geeks and authors? The author takes a relatively mundane scientific field and uses it as a base for a typical hollywood story, usually betraying his interest and love for the scientific field (sometimes begun in his/her childhood).

    In response, geeks buy the book en masse, and they don't pick apart the bad science (like they usually do in lesser books). They become fans-for-life of the author who has tipped the cap to them.

    So there's like a symbiotic relationship at work. The author who's looking for new frontiers, new avenues of masculinity (a great race car driver is dull and trite, but a great hacker is new and sexy). And the geek who might not have the most exciting job in the world, but he loves it...and he loves his job being validating in a book or movie more than anything else.

    Is this cultural phenomenon unique to the US? Or do the schlocky escapist maestros in Japan, Germany, or Italy mix so well with the taciturn gadgeteers of those locales? It's really an interesting parasocial relationships.

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    1. Re:Deciphering and the hacker mystique by 0111+1110 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Have you actually read Cryptonomicon? I think the writing speaks for itself. I don't mean the plotting. I mean the writing itself, his use of language. It's poetry in the form of prose IMHO. Pretty much all plots have been done by now. It's the writer's skill with language that makes the difference for me. I can relate to what you are saying here in general terms, but I just don't agree that it applies to our beloved Neal.

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  3. I found Snow Crash fairly weak by Moderation+abuser · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Starts off well, but loses it long before the fairly disappointing conclusion. It didn't make me want to rush out and get Cryptonomicon, which I've never bothered to read.

    There are plenty of better writers out there.

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    1. Re:I found Snow Crash fairly weak by redheaded_stepchild · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Having read both, I'll agree with your opinion of Snow Crash, but I found Cryptonomicon quite entertaining. At least give him a second chance.

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  4. More crypto fun! by bastion · · Score: 5, Interesting

    CIA Kryptos Sculpture

    Located in the northwest corner of the New Headquarters Building courtyard is a sculpture by artist James Sanborn entitled "Kryptos." Dedicated on November 3, 1990, the theme of this sculpture is "intelligence gathering." "Kryptos" incorporates native American materials such as wood and metal. A piece of petrified wood supports a large S-shaped copper screen that looks like a piece of paper coming out of a computer printer. On the "paper" are inscribed several enigmatic messages, each written in a different code.

    CIA Website

    ABC News Article

  5. Re:The Davinci Code by topologist · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've read "The da Vinci code", and while it was superficially entertaining, almost every topic the book touched upon had a factual error, including the geography of Paris, some details about Leonardo's paintings, and several others. The subject matter (conspiracy theories involving the Holy Grail) is very exciting though, and a blitz marketing campaign made it a success. If you liked the subject, but prefer to get your facts straight, I recommend a novel by Umberto Eco (author of "The Name of the Rose", which was made into a movie starring Connery), called "Foucault's Pendulum". It's a hefty tome, but worth the read.

  6. Re:not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Its all about application though. Think of the use of the Navajo language by the US military during WWII. The Navajo language was meant to reveal ideas (the same as Wilkins language) and was subsequently used to encrypt information (the same as Wilkins language).

    So depending upon the application, it might be one or the other.