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Web Firms Choose Profit Over Privacy

An anonymous reader writes "Web Firms Choose Profit Over Privacy details the tactics of retailers and marketers to sell customer data. Examples include promising not to sell consumer data, but then 'renting' the data, and the use of shopping cart software with different privacy policies than the merchant."

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  1. And we in turn choose... by macshune · · Score: 5, Funny

    Piracy over profit!

  2. next up: by Tumbleweed · · Score: 3, Funny

    "People choose privacy over web firms"

    I'm _so_ glad I have my own domain, and can create and destroy email addresses willy-nilly. I haven't seen a piece of spam in about a year, now, and that's with_out_ any spam filtering methods at all.

    1. Re:next up: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      How to make money with your own domain:

      1. create a ton of email addresses
      2. sell list of email address to spammers
      3. after a week or two, destroy the email addresses
      4. go to step 1

    2. Re:next up: by Tumbleweed · · Score: 2, Funny

      Hmmm. I smell profit! I love the smell of profit in the morning.

      And one could just eliminate step 3, and set the mail server to auto-delete any email to those addresses, but not bounce, and just keep on going back to step 2.

      Ya know, I _do_ have a few unused domains laying around...

      "100% guaranteed real e-mail addresses, guaranteed no bounces! (or your blood money back)"

      It's a whole new marketing paradigm! Just think of the synergy, man, the _synergy_! I believe a quick ROI is possible here by leveraging some core competencies and targeting the "low-hanging fruit" in this vertical.

      Oh yes.

  3. Duh...no joke by ACK!! · · Score: 5, Funny

    What next?

    Businesses choose profit over customer safety?

    Businesses choose profit over employee safety?

    What about the obvious?

    Businesses choose profit over anything else!?!

    I am glad the Washington Post is on top of this. I doubt I would have ever figured this out on my own.

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  4. Chris Reeve? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Recently, for example, the Christopher Reeve Paralysis Foundation advertised that its list of donors, including postal addresses, was for rent"


    He gets free fetuses AND the ability to sell people's personal info! Come on!!!!

  5. Step 3 by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know of too many companies that have the following business plan:

    1. Make product
    2. ...
    3. Privacy!

    All humor aside, I think it's time we just start over. We need an Internet2 (wait... already taken -- Internet3!) that only allows individuals and well-behaved companies onto it... Either that, or we could just move back to Gopher...

  6. Hooked on Phonics alright by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Funny

    To parents interested in buying the popular Hooked on Phonics learn-to-read programs, the company made a firm promise on its Web site: It would never sell or rent their personal information to other marketers. But that pledge was empty.

    The children are Hooked on Phonics, and now the parents are Hooked on Phony Emails.

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  7. need info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'll pay $5 for the name of that anonymous submitter.

  8. Chris's Ex-boyfriends? by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Some companies, like psycho ex-boyfriends, tend to see relationships where they don't exist," said Chris Murray, legislative counsel for Consumers Union.

    Why did he say psycho ex-boyfriends and not ex-girlfriends? Is Chris hinting at something here? Or am I drawing conclusions where they don't exist.

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  9. As any good Ferengi will tell you... by Boyceterous · · Score: 5, Funny

    the 257th Rule of Acquisition says "Sell to your customers first, then sell your customers!"

  10. "Renting" address lists? by mblase · · Score: 3, Funny

    JOHN Q. SPAMMER: Hey, can I buy about 100,000 email addresses from your database?
    ONLINE RETAILER: Sorry, we have a strict privacy policy that says we don't sell customer information.
    JQS: C'mon, I'll give you a penny per ten. That's $100.
    OLR: Our users are not for sale.
    JQS: $250. I'm cutting my own throat here.
    OLR: Well... our bandwidth bills were $360 last year....
    JQS: $350, then. Final offer.
    OLR: But, our privacy policy....
    JQS: Yeah, yeah. Tell you what, I'll give you the list back in a month. And I won't keep any backup copies. Promise.
    OLR: Whew, glad that clears my conscience.

    1. Re:"Renting" address lists? by zangdesign · · Score: 2, Funny

      Ah, you must mean Cut-Me-Own-Ethernet Dibbler, King of all Suspiciously "Sausage-Like" Vendors everywhere.

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  11. Re:How do you "rent" data? by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Now I'm going to show you this list of customers, but you have to promise that after a month you will forget about it, ok? Promise?"

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  12. Big surprise if you read it like me by MasTRE · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one who read this as

    Web Firms Choose Profit Over Piracy

    Now that would've been worthy news.

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  13. Re:Privacy and such... by morcheeba · · Score: 2, Funny

    same here. I also sometimes tag my snail-mail address:

    Morcheeba
    Dept. SD
    123 street
    City, state zip

    I also do it with my telephone number. Example:

    (212) 752-7436

    That spells out sla-shdo; good enough for me to recogonize. Funny, though, I don't get many unsolicited calls to my masked phone numbers...

  14. I was outraged... by tbase · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...to learn that the Hooked on Phonics company was promising not to sell or rent customer's information while advertising it for sale in a trade magazine. Until I read the reason - "A company spokeswoman said the firm was simply slow to update its policy."

    That's a big relief, because I was a little slow in updating my checkbook, and now that I think about it, I simply forgot that the account I wrote their check on was closed in 1996.

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  15. Re:Fight spam... by Dark+Lord+Seth · · Score: 4, Funny

    Actually, considering how business works and that they will only do PROFITABLE stuff, the most scary thing would be that spam ACTUALLY WORKS! It's hard to believe, but on this planet there are actually people who are willing to buy $1 viagra-knockoffs, have their mortages refinanced by an obscure company 2000+ miles away, are interested in teenage girls doing various uhm... procreational activities for "free" (amateur porn surfers; real men use http://www.thehun.com/ and http://www.sublimedirectory.com/ anyways) and have 300+ phds, degrees, titles, whatnot which aren't recognized ANYWHERE. The problem isn't the spammers that much, the problem is (as usual) stupid people.

    I mean, who the FUCK would believe an email from a no-name company, adressing you by your email adress, containing 200+ typos to evade spam filters, uses all-capital text and can be grossly offensive? (Despite popular opinion, I'm not really interested or charmed by a jpg featuring two (or more) south-american guys in a homoerotic position featuring a nice close up of some anal penetration. Remember I'm talking about guys here.)

  16. Why would they update the privacy policy? by raehl · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hooked on Phonics customers never read it anyway.

  17. News by chundo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Whoever thinks this is news either has never worked for a web firm, or has never gotten to know their friendly marketing department.

    -j

  18. In other news... by LeoHat · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... Water is discovered to be wet

    still no cure for cancer.

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  19. Re:Incompetence: a winning strategy by El · · Score: 2, Funny

    Works for me. For example, whenever the IRS asks me why I didn't pay my taxes, I simply reply "I forgot!"

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  20. Re:Privacy and such... by letxa2000 · · Score: 2, Funny
    I think that can change when mainstream e-mail providers (Hotmail, AOL, GMX etc) offer disposable e-mail addresses.

    You mean Hotmail addresses aren't disposable? I've never had a permanent one! :)

  21. Re:Different policies between site and shopping ca by adric · · Score: 2, Funny
    Perhaps we need a GPL privacy policy?
    Anyone can use your personal information, provided that they contribute their enhancements back to the community?
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  22. Web Firms Choose Profit Over Privacy by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1, Funny
    "Web Firms Choose Profit Over Privacy"

    Shit.....say it ain't so....

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