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Gesture Control for Automotive Peripherals

j-rock nowhere writes "An article in Automotive Design and productions' Field Guide to Automotive Technology describes a possible future method of controlling things like your cell phone and stereo while keeping your eyes on the road."

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  1. jedi by frieked · · Score: 4, Funny

    Soon, drivers will be able to command vehicle functions with the wave of a hand.

    Does this work on storm troopers too?

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    1. Re:jedi by Greedo · · Score: 4, Funny

      You: (waves hand in front of dashboard) This is not the radio station I was looking for.

      Honda: This is not the station you were looking for.

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  2. Does anyone else see this as not a good idea? by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 4, Funny

    Driver makes gestures
    Car swerves down into a ditch
    Hands not on the wheel

    1. Re:Does anyone else see this as not a good idea? by carlos_benj · · Score: 5, Funny

      This won't be implemented in Italian cars.....

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    2. Re:Does anyone else see this as not a good idea? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's a joke. The whole reason you're more dangerous is because of CONCENTRATION.

      The fact you're talking on the phone (regardless of whether you're using a hands-free set or not) means that some aspect of your cognitive functions are not on the road. Pure and simple.

      People waving their hands around in an attempt to spell something will be a menace. I can imagine what'll happen as soon as something's mis-spelt. People'll soon switch their eyes across to whatever readout it has to try and delete something.

      We should be enforcing laws stopping people driving dangerously and without due care and attention, not making up expensive technology that will provide yet another distraction for idiots.

  3. I dunno... by TopShelf · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sounds like a recipe for a new rash of Road Rage incidents.

    "Hey, a$$hole - you gonna flip me off like that, I'll show you!" (swerves and cuts off guy who's just trying to check his voicemail)

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    1. Re:I dunno... by frieked · · Score: 4, Informative

      RTFA
      the system has a camera positioned in the center console area pointed up at the roof so that the space in which the driver makes command gestures is essentially the same as where a gearshift lever might be. The thinking is to keep the operation of the system as familiar and natural as possible so that the driver won't be distracted from watching the road. (Another benefit is that since the gestures are made at a low level in the center of the vehicle other drivers are not likely to see them and interpret them as digital expletives.)

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  4. Huh. My car is ahead of its time. by foxtrot · · Score: 5, Funny

    I already have this.

    If I place my hand on the device in front of me,
    and I move my hand to the left, the car goes to the left. If I move my hand to the right, my car goes to the right.

    There's a set of gestures I can make with my other hand to select something called a "gear". And the motion recognition even watches my feet, too!

    -JDF

  5. A simpler way with little innovation required by mao+che+minh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    How about a few buttons on the steering wheel that correspond to standardized jacks used to interface things like your celluar phone and stereo? The stereo part is already done (in most Acura's for example), now just add celluar compatibility and provide one of those systems that turns you car into a speaker phone and your done.

  6. It's not the problem by paranode · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Politicians and inventors seem to think that the cause of cell-phone related accidents has something to do with their hands being too occupied. I think it's quite obvious that the real problem is that people can't focus on two things at once. I don't think any of these new laws or hands-free technology will improve anything because little Susy driving around in her new BMW SUV that her daddy gave her isn't going to be saved when she's talking to Jennifer about how her boyfriend Chad just dumped her and she changes lanes into MY CAR!

    1. Re:It's not the problem by brakk · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I agree, I drive 90% of the time with one hand whether I'm on the cell phone or not. It's after I get off a call and I don't remember the last couple miles that I wonder how I was doing it. I know my subconscious had taken over and was driving for me, but what would have happened if I needed to respond quickly or little Susy merging into my fender. It's not the lack of hands that would be the problem; it's the lack of concentration on the road.

      (Although, I've noticed that when someone is in the car with me and I'm talking to them, I don't have any problem paying attention to the road. I haven't quite figured that out yet.)

  7. Gesture-Based Interfaces by mcc · · Score: 5, Interesting
    A loud clatter of gunk music flooded through the Heart of Gold cabin as Zaphod searched the sub-etha radio wave bands for news of himself. The machine was rather difficult to operate. For years radios had been operated by means of pressing buttons and turning dials; then as the technology became more sophisticated the controls were made touch-sensitive-- you merely had to brush the panels with your fingers; now all you had to do was wave your hand in the general direction of the components and hope. It saved a lot of muscular expenditure, of course, but meant that you had to sit infuriatingly still if you wanted to keep listening to the same program."

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  8. What about hands on the wheel? by Ashtead · · Score: 4, Interesting
    .. or the stick-shift every once in a while.

    The big problem seems to be that the concentration isn't on traffic even with hands-off versions of mobile phones. True enough, there is not that gross inattentiveness associated with reading or writing text-messages, or other non-telecomms activities like applying makeup or reading the newspaper. Still, the concentration isn't where it ought to be during phone calls, I have experienced this myself, being on "autopilot" whilst talking. Enough to keep the vehicle following the road; but at the end of the conversation I realized I could not remember anything of what I had passed, even obvious things like small towns and intersections.

    On the other hand, this idea of being able to quickly get commands across to various in-car systems seems exciting. Being able to turn on a music selection with a flick of the wrist certainly is vastly better than an in-car entertainment system full of pushbuttons. I got one of these here, and I never am able to work it unless the car is stationary.

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  9. NOT the problem with cell phones in cars, dammit! by SuperBanana · · Score: 5, Insightful

    method of controlling things like your cell phone and stereo while keeping your eyes on the road

    First off- my stereo in my car displays the FM frequency info in the gauge cluster, at the top, and I know all the controls by feel; the button groups are shaped with surfaces to let you recognize which button group you're on. This feature was introduced in 1989 by Audi, and continues in every single model they make- so this is solving a problem that doesn't exist, frankly. If one manufacturer can do it, any can- it's just smart design and a little bit of extra electronics.

    Regardless, The problem is NOT the "taking your eyes off the road" bit. The problem, time after time, is your mental focus.

    Researchers found that when a driver is talking on the cell phone, it's almost like they enter a tunnel of sorts- they loose their situational awareness(ie, "where are the other cars around me?" "what is my speed?" etc.) and sort of blankly stare ahead. You can recognize anyone in this "mode"; they look like some kind of automaton.

    Of course, the phone companies say "that's absurd, people in cars talk to the driver". That's right(even right to the extent that many states limit passengers for young drivers, who haven't enough experience)- but when you're talking to the driver (studies have shown that) you stop talking to them if the situation the driver is in gets complicated- ie, a merge, someone starts to cut them off, an exit is coming up, or they're looking for a turn to make- or even if the driver suddenly changes their body language- and even that act of stopping talking to them can give the driver a wakeup call. People on the other end of the phone can't do any of this, of course.

    But, have you ever wondered why the cellphone industry is happily embracing the hands-free stuff? They get to sell extra accessories at an absurd profit margin compared to the phone unit itself- and it distracts everyone from the much more "dangerous"(to them) truth- that people can't talk to other people safely unless they're in the car, ie, cell phone calls by drivers should be illegal PERIOD.

  10. You Linux people... by rampant+mac · · Score: 4, Funny
    ...are so far behind the times! My new BMW uses Microsft's new embeded OS to enhance performance of my Beemer's traction control, safety system, and...

    HOLY FUCK!

    *makes vulcan sign*

    *crashes into tree*

    Windows

    A fatal exception 0E has occured at 0028:C004CDCF in VXD VNTFS(01) +
    00000B987. The current application will be terminated.

    * Press any key to terminate the current application.

    * Press CTRL+ALT+DELETE again to restart you computer. You will lose any unsaved information in all applications.

    * Pray that one of the above will work.


    Press any key to continue_

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  11. Dumb idea by theLOUDroom · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If I'm going to take my hands off the wheel, I want to do something quick and unambiguous, then out them right back where they were. Buttons and switches are simple, reliable, and give tactile feedback. When I flip a switch on my dash, I can feel it move, and heard it click. I know my will has been done and I can go back to driving the vehicle. With a gesture system, there will be a tendency to wait and see if the system has properly recognized your motions before returning your attention to the road This is bad.

    Steering-wheel mounted controls are the way to go. Control the radio with you thumbs and maybe dial your phone with buttons in the middle of the wheel.

    Controls need to be quick and simple. We don't have any laws saying you need a hands-free kit for your CB in any state that I know of because they aren't that distracting. A single button push or know twist will effect whatever changes you want, and no one hesitates to drop their mic if they need to, since they're desiged to handle it. Contrast this with a typical handheld cellphone: Tiny keys, poor tactile feedback, inefficient controls (volume buttons instead of a knob), tiny displays. Just think about how much time you take your eyes off the road to dial a seven digit number. Plenty of time to get you killed on the wrong day.

    Voice dialing (for ANY number: "five-five-five-one-two-one-two"), volume control knobs, and a single button that takes the phone on and off-hook should be mandatory for all cellphones used while driving. NYS already has a law requiring the use of a "hands free" kit, but AFIAK just plugging and earbud into your phone satisfies that requrement.

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