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Laptops Outsell Desktops in Retail Stores

TechnoPope writes "According to this article on MSNBC.Com, laptop computers accounted for 54 percent of of 500 Million in retail computer sales last year. Also mentioned was that LCD's outsold CRT's in retail as well. "

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  1. Outsold in dollars not units. by Snags · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Not included in the article is discussion of the fact that, per unit, more desktops/CRTs are sold than laptops/LCDs because of the costs. When people buy more laptops/LCDs despite the price, then I'll be impressed.

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  2. this may just be a phase. by 2MuchC0ffeeMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    weren't computer sales down 6 months ago?

    corporations don't have the money to upgrade anymore, that's a big bulk of a downcline in desktop sales...

    and, universities would rather use laptops rather than desktops becuase of space and power requirements.

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  3. It's a misleading title...sales $ vs. units by chia_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I read this yesterday and thought "whoah! More laptops than desktops!" but after reading the article I became aware that the money brought in from laptop sales was more than the money brought in from desktops. Considering the average laptop costs twice as much as the average desktop, you've still got roughly a 2-1 ratio of desktop units sold over laptops.

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  4. just a theory... by thoolihan · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is this a sign that 'joe user' starting to realize that software is no longer requiring upgrades every 6 months? (ease of Desktop ugrade is no longer a driving factor)...

    -t

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  5. Same article, different format by krs-one · · Score: 4, Informative

    Pretty much the same article on CNN, but a little nicer format with less intrusive ads: CNN's article

    -Vic

  6. In dollars, not units.. by wfberg · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bearing in mind that desktops are cheaper, and that you can upgrade them more easily using off the shelf components, this doesn't mean that all of a sudden the world+dog are switching to laptops, especially not first time computer buyers looking for a family pc.

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  7. Homebuilts - by jpsst34 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I wonder how many PC users build their own - as in what percentage of desktop's are homebuilt, since these don't figure into the "retail PC sales" numbers.

    In our little geek world, I'm sure the percentage of homebuilts is very high. But in the "real world," I wonder where that percentage falls to. I wonder if homebuilts account for enough to push laptop sales back under 50%, thus negating this /. story.

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    1. Re:Homebuilts - by mercuryresearch · · Score: 4, Informative

      It's a very small number. I research this stuff for a living, and 2% of people with PCs even open the case to upgrade graphics cards each year. Building your own system was less than 1% of PCs a few years ago, and that's when you actually saved money with DIY PCs.

      With system prices now, unless you have components to reuse, it actually costs you money to build it yourself (i.e. buying a prebuilt Dell is cheaper than the prices of the components bought individually in low quantities.) Of course there are other (better) reasons to build your own system than just the money involved.

  8. A hidden reason by Ignorant+Aardvark · · Score: 5, Funny

    We all know that porn drives all the technological progress we evidence around us. What do you think the first telescopic lens was made for? To look at the sky? Hah! Gallileo happened to have a really attractive woman living next door.

    So it should be no surprise that laptops are outselling personal computers, because they are much more suited for the Viewing Of and Whacking Off To porn. Personal computers are large, unwieldy, and it's easy to get caught "doing the nasty" in front of them. Not so with laptops, in my personal opinion. They're portable, and can be transferred to anywhere in the house (along with thier pornographic contents) for ease of masturbation.

    What sort of innovations does the future hold? I can't say for sure. But I can say for certain that they will bring pornography to us in more detail than ever before.

  9. Steve Jobs = Nostradamus? by tweder · · Score: 5, Funny

    And here I thought Steve Jobs was simply weilding the "Reality Distortion Field " when he declared this year as "The Year of the Laptop."

  10. Slight Increase in Price? by temojen · · Score: 5, Informative

    I'm not sure what planet you're from, but where I'm from a 17", 1600x1200 CRT retails for ~$279CDN, and a 17", 1600x1200 LCD retails for ~$890CDN.

    To me, 3x is not a slight difference in price.

  11. Re:BAAAAAA by pyrote · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's amazing what sheep will do when you tell them they should.

    This is about laptops, not social reform in wyoming.

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  12. Cash amount, not number of units... by Man+Eating+Duck · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I read this as "Higher number of laptops than desktops".
    As laptops generally cost a lot more, it's not that surprising. I also think that laptops are most popular among business / professional users (who can afford the higher price for increased convenience), while the vast majority of home users have desktops as their primary /only computer.

    Could something similar be the case with the LCD's?

    Pardon my English...

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  13. Re:CRTs still being made by EvanED · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I bought a CRT about 9 months ago, but even by today's standards of LCDs, that "slight increase in price" would be about $700. Taday's lowest price of a LCD that does 1600x1200 res: about $950 off pricewatch. My monitor when I bought it: $225. This is not just a "slight difference".

  14. And where do all those laptops go? by Minwee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's hardly surprising. How often do you think people replace a stolen desktop?

  15. Re:CRTs still being made by Unoriginal+Nick · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Two words: digital photography. An LCD simply can't match the true color representation a good CRT can give, which is essential if you're going to do any serious photo work on a PC.

  16. LCD's are cheap by vasqzr · · Score: 5, Informative


    I got an email from TigerDirect today.

    LCD specials

    14" for $159
    15" for $219
    17" for $319

    Do we see 17" LCD's for $249 this Holiday season?

    LCD's are great for multiple monitor set ups, your desk doesn't collapse like with CRTs. Then again, your colors don't quite match up either...

  17. Re:Laptops Rule! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I love my laptop so much, too. It really depresses me to see it disappear as I stand up. But you can hardly imagine my joy at having it return as I sit down again.

  18. Common Complaint by vasqzr · · Score: 5, Interesting


    (Assuming you're using Windows)

    Turn on Large Fonts.

    I hear this all the time with my laptop users at work.

    You can't get any work done in 800x600 anyway. Hell, for much other than Word, 1024x768 stinks too!

  19. No it's not. by The+Grinner · · Score: 5, Informative

    I can see how it's sort of ambiguous in the original article, if however you go to the NPD web site you can read their original press release where it's actually clear that they are refering to # of units sold for LCD's. It also turns out though that they are indeed refering to percentage of money for Desktop/Laptop sales.

  20. Haven't had it long, have you? by fireboy1919 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Just wait 5 years.

    I'll still be using the desktop machines I've got - doing incremental upgrades, of course - but it'll basically be the same boxen.

    By then your laptop will be gone. Even if you don't step on it, drop it, run over it with a car, or get it stolen, it'll die from overheat or one of the internal components will break and be irreparable because everything's integrated (with the possible exception of the harddrive).

    And then you'll have to buy another one.

    Laptops may eventually replace desktops in per-unit usage simply because the laptop owners have to keep buying new ones, while the desktop owners don't. Kind of like how industrial laser printer sales are far fewer than inkjet printer sales.

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  21. Portability is the new killer app by elliotj · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I bet laptops will continue to gain market share over desktops. For most people a good laptop has more than enough power to use office apps, Internet and maybe the odd game. And that's all most people need to do with their computers.

    Now that you don't have to sacrifice power and performance for portability in any significant way, why would you bother buying a desktop other than cost? So I think a lot of people are thinking that getting a desktop that they can only use in one location is a major drawback.

    Personally, I've been drooling over the new Apple G5s, but I really think my next computer will be another Powerbook. I take my TiBook everywhere with me, and with WIFI at home and work, I can use it all day. If I buy a desktop for home, I won't get to use it for most of my day.

  22. Laptops and LCDs are economically justified... by vudufixit · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Real estate is more expensive than
    computers. And getting more expensive.
    Computers get less expensive, at least
    expressed as computing power and features
    for a given amount of dollars.
    Businesses want cubicles to stay small
    (or get smaller) and people with home offices
    want to make maximum use of that space.
    It makes perfect sense on that basis.
    However, I think there a lot of downsides
    to laptops that overzealous desktop replacers don't see, including proprietary components,
    vulnerability to physical damage and theft,
    and relative difficulty of backing up whole
    hard drives.

  23. Possible reasons by tmark · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Before anyone jumps to grand conclusions about what this means vis a vis desktops vs laptops:

    I don't see anyone noting how laptops are inherently hard to upgrade. If your laptop is sluggish, you basically have two options: 1) add more RAM, and if that fails, 2) buy a new laptop. Whereas, with desktop PCs, you have several more options, like upgrading the CPU or buying a new graphics card. This means that the average desktop will have a longer upgradeable life than the average laptop.

    A related factor is that the average desktop for under $1000 is way more powerful than the average $2000 laptop. So a desktop bought today is much less likely to be made obsolete by horsepower requirements within a given time frame than a laptop also bought today, if only because it has more horsepower right out of the box, even if that desktop costs a lot less.

    And because of the inherent cost differential, people who can afford to buy laptops can afford to upgrade them faster.

    Also, many people who buy laptops buy it for the chic factor, so they're going to upgrade (i.e. buy a new laptop) sooner than those people who buy the decidedly unchic desktop.

    Laptops are undeniably at least partly about image, and people consume them every bit as conspicuously (and in the very same places !) as people consumed Filofaxes, cell phones, and PDAs before. And I've noticed many smirks or at least raised eyebrows when someone trundles in a 3-year old, heavy-as-hell-with-passive-matrix-screen laptop into a meeting. And many if not most of the laptop-advocates here are familiar with the satisfaction of hauling in the newest, coolest laptop, hearing the oohs-and-ahhs and having the neatest toy in the board room for the next month or so.