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Nobel Prize Winners on Sci-Fi Flicks

scientistguy writes "In case you missed it, Harold Varmus, Nobel prize winning retrovirologist and cancer biologist, former NIH director, and current head of Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, has written a review of 28 Days Later in this weekend's New York Times. One would think that his time is more valuably spent running important medical institutions, searching for new cancer insights/cures, etc, but the dude's also an English lit major and has a penchant for sci-fi. 28 Days Later is the new flick from director Danny Boyle (Shallow Grave, Trainspotting, etc.) about a virus termed rage that is advertently released from a Cambridge primate research facility and goes on to devastate much of merry old England more rapidly than the dragons did in Reign of Fire. Although Varmus appears to go out of his way to be even handed, it's clear that he has a problem suspending disbelief on a topic (virology) that is near and dear to him. Reviews from professional movie critics on 28 Days Later have been mixed, but Ebert and another NY Times reviewer were into it. Good, clean summer fun - aside from 'the scenes of maiming, dismemberment, clubbing, shooting, bayoneting and shoplifting'."

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  1. 28 Days Later is Sci-Fi? by Jason1729 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought it was a sequel to the Sandra Bullock movie, 28 Days.

    Jason
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  2. aside from the scenes of maiming, dismemberment... by nairobiny · · Score: 5, Interesting

    and the rare fact that this film was released in the UK last summer, making this rather old news for anyone in Blighty. Makes a change for us to get a film first, eh?

  3. Re:damn the science by perfessor+multigeek · · Score: 5, Informative

    -----SPOILERS-----

    Well, from the little that we're told, the chimps are under a drug regimen designed to *repress* the rage. So,
    A.) The virus quiets down momentarily when the victim has satisfied the desire to attack (which matches the behavior of the "zombies" in the flick, who slow down and wander off after any confrontation)
    or
    B.) The chimp seeing the videos was being monitored for threshold levels or some such.

    Remember, the researcher said (pretty much) that "we need to see the phenomenon to understand it"

    Frankly, what little hope I had of reasonable consistency died when the lights were on in the supermarket.
    Science this ain't. After all "all of Manchester" is burning down but London, with more old buildings and the same lack of controls has not a single fire, even WITH their blowing up a gas (sorry, "petrol") station. I was wondering about the lack of fires *way* before they showed the burning skyline.

    It's a thrill flick, dude. You're not going to find the logical reason for everything. You'ld be better off trying to find logic in the sequence of stardates in early Star Trek episodes.

    Rustin

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  4. My Review of 28 Days by HunterZero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my opinion, the film was a wonderful Zombie film. It didn't get bogged down in trying to explain the how and why of the virus so it didn't bother me a bit. Not explaining the details also plays another role: it puts the audience into the same position as the characters. The characters don't give a flying damn about the details, they just want to survive.

    The film manages to spook you but doesn't often give in to the common traps that most horror films fall into. Sure, some things are pretty obviously going to happen, but the film doesn't go for cliques(sp) which was a pleasant suprise. Of course, the differences between American and European film styles is quite clear, especially their repective attitudes towards violence and nudity.

    Something else I should note was pointed out to me by my artisticly inclined friend, which was that the fact that it even made it over here to the states is a statement in and of itself. Most of their films don't make it over here for a theatrical release and are relegated to the foriegn film isle at the local rental store. The camera work is also different with some seemingly awkward angles that work well for the film. The music fits the mood of the film as well.

    All in all, I highly recommend this film for Zombie film fans, and I can also recommend it to those who aren't really into zombie flicks since the plot is decent and they don't try to gross out the audience.

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  5. I'm Not Casting the First Stone by jmt9581 · · Score: 4, Funny

    One would think that his time is more valuably spent running important medical institutions, searching for new cancer insights/cures, etc

    As if people reading Slashdot had a right to criticize anyone else about not working. :)

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    1. Re:I'm Not Casting the First Stone by Dun+Malg · · Score: 5, Insightful
      One would think that his time is more valuably spent running important medical institutions, searching for new cancer insights/cures, etc

      As if people reading Slashdot had a right to criticize anyone else about not working. :)

      Heh. Yeah, this is yet another case of the old /. armchair-philanthropism. Whenever a story pops up wher some guy builds, say, an Atari 2600 emulator made of Legos, there's always a bunch of holier-than-thou jackasses who wonder aloud why the guy is wasting his time doing that when he could be "volunteering to teach children to read", or "helping build low-cost housing". What's the problem with those types? I personally think it's poorly-disguised self loathing. They haven't lifted so much as a finger to help anyone for years, so they criticize others for it. Sick bastards. Can't a guy go to a movie once in a while? Or does he have to sit in front of a Viro-Matic Analyzer all day just to please them?

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  6. Well, the Omega Man... by HunterZero · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Was just an adaption of the wonderful Richard Matheson book "I am Legend" which came out back in the 1950's (I believe). I personally would love to see the book put to the screen but those damned screen writers keep changing the plot so that it fits with what the studios think we want: ie love interest, more action, etc etc.

    It's really a shame, since I highly recommend the book and a film of it would bring it to the masses.

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  7. Re:You don't have to pay $9 for this movie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative
    And if you have a PAL compatable TV, you can SEE it!

    Ummm... you do know that there are plenty of standalone DVD players that do the NTSC/PAL conversion just fine, so that you can watch PAL discs on an NTSC television set ... right?

  8. shoplifting? by G27+Radio · · Score: 5, Funny

    um, Frank left his credit card at the cash register before they left the store. And besides, everyone was dead anyway...which made the fact that he left his card kind of cool. What were they supposed to do, starve to death because there was no one alive to give the money to? Furthermore they only took necessities like food, medical supplies, and single malt scotch.

  9. Re:Is 28 Days Later a remake? by great+throwdini · · Score: 5, Informative
    Vincent Price's "The Last Man on Earth" ... Was Boyle merely influenced by this classic? Or is it a total rip-off?

    I always thought that The Omega Man was a remake of The Last Man on Earth (which I didn't realize was an Italian production), both of which were based on the work of Matheson: I Am Legend. Great book.

  10. Re:damn the science by geekoid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Acutallu, you can see those same 'inconsistancies' durng real catastrophies.
    Areas that for some reason are completly untouched, or effected a lot less then there surronding.
    I haven't seem the movie, but have seen totally scorched areas with one house untouched.

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  11. What in the hell are you talking about? by rob-fu · · Score: 4, Funny

    Omega Man was released in 1987 by Capcom for the Nintendo Entertainment System, and it's about a man with a pellet gun for an arm, who subsequently battles through 10 levels to fight the evil Dr. Wily. I don't know where you're getting you information from.

  12. A Parasite does this for Real by frank249 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    In the movie 28 Days, a virus causes those infected with it to turn into killers. It turns out that there is an amoebic parasite called T. gondiithat actually manipulates the behavior of its intermediate host, the rat, to reach its ultimate target, the cat. Rats become infected with T. gondiii by eating infected beetles or worms. Once infected, the rats lose their fear of cats and become aggressive towards them and thereby becoming dinner for the cat. The parasite is then passed on to the cat where it reproduces in the cats brain but does not appear to change any of the cat's behaviours. After a time, the parasite leaves the cat via its feces where it is picked up by bettles and worms and the cycle starts again. The scary thing is that all mammals are susceptible to infection by T. Gondii, however for now it appears that the amoebas can reproduce only within members of the cat family.

    So while there are infections like rabies that cause madness, it appears T. Gondii only affects the select behaviours in rats it needs in order continue as a species. There are societies where people eat cats and/or rats. I wonder how long it will be before T. Gondii evolves to affect humans?

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  13. Sounds interesting by Erwos · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Didn't see the movie (can't stand the zombie flicks myself), but...

    If the movie happened in "real life", it would take roughly a day for the rest of the world to figure out roughly what's happening. You'd see:

    1. Extreme quarantine measures. There'd be a total blockade of Britain, a large, well-armed regiment blocking the Chunnel from all traffic, and escorts of air traffic. Anyone who doesn't stop gets killed. There will probably be a few infections outside of Britain, but the authorities will be rather more prone to use lethal force to deal with them.
    2. After two weeks, the world is throughly scared to death. All British survivors are told they are remaining in quarantine indefinitely. Scientists discover what the plague is, but have no cure.
    3. Weeks 3-6: the civilized world tries to figure out how the hell to deal with this plague. Massive military rescue operations to grab survivors, conventional military operations, and the use of nuclear weapons to contain the plague are discussed.
    4. Weeks 7-9: Rescue ops are carried out against known survivor colonies. Coalition militaries (primarily NATO) take only a few casualties, mostly from equipment failures.

    How would it play out in the end? I don't know. But the fact of the matter is, if it's between the lives of 500,000 people and a plague that could possibly end the world and destroy all of humanity... I know I would consider using nuclear weapons to destroy the British Isles and cauterize the remenants of the disease. I don't think I'd do it, but I'd have the option down on the table.

    In extreme times, you may have to use extreme measures. They may or may not be over-reactions, but the safe side of an issue is obviously continuing the human race.

    -Erwos

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