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SCO Taking Linux Discussion To Japan

levin writes "EETimes is carrying a new story about our good friend Darl McBride, CEO of SCO. His latest escapades include a trip to Japan in response to the CE Linux Forum initiative undertaken by several big-name Japanese tech firms such as Sony and Toshiba. He's putting his famous tainted code dog-and-pony show on parade, trying to influence some of the major CELF founders."

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  1. Re:Does anyone out there still use SCO Unix? by Surak · · Score: 4, Informative

    FilePro. We use it for a FilePro database that runs our entire accounting operations. I dunno why. Maybe I should mention to them that FilePro runs on Linux now. (duh).

  2. Re:Too Bad... by Trigun · · Score: 5, Informative

    It probably was popularized by Clint Eastwood in 'The Outlaw Josey Wales' when he said, "I'll kick you so hard, you'll be wearing your ass for a hat".

    Although, UrbanDictionary.com says:

    5 definitions found.

    asshat

    One who has their head up their ass. Thus wearing their ass as a hat. Asshat

    asshat

    One who enters into a new environment without taking the time to learn any of the social rules of the place. Then they promptly make pretty much every social gaff you can imagine this side of shitting on the dinner table.

    You know, a moron.

    Scrappy Doo is one of the few existing examples of an animated asshat.

    asshat

    a person who has no common sense or just plain stupid.

    Some of the people on notPopular.com are asshats.

    asshat

    exclamation said when being woken up for the third time by your drunken roomates

    i hope this asshat likes the taste of concrete

    asshat

    1. A hat worn by a drunken fool, or ass.

    2. A foolish person, as one who would wear an asshat.

    1. At the party, Jon made a fool of himself when he donned his asshat, the lampshade.

    2. By bothering everyone at work, that asshat has made a real fool of himself.

    Hope this helps...

  3. UNIX Patents by Bigby · · Score: 5, Informative

    "In the past three months, SCO Group, a small software company that owns Unix patents, claimed it had found chunks of its Unix code in Linux."

    I thought it was already concluded that SCO doesn't even claim to own UNIX patents. They just claim that they own the copyrights. The Novell escapade brought all of that out. EE Times needs to get their story right.

  4. Re:This leaves one big question... by Zathrus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because you'd be a damn fool to do so.

    As it stands, SCO will have to prove that IBM broke its trade secret agreement, which is going to be a damned difficult thing for SCO to do. They're alleging copyright infringement as well but, and this is important, have yet to file a claim in court about any infringement whatsoever. Until they do so what exactly are you going to sue them for? Libel? Good bloody luck. You'd then be on the wrong side of the table -- you'd have to prove that their claims are false without ever seeing any of their documentation. Enjoy! You'll lose that case in a millionth of the amount of time the SCO/IBM case will take. If you even make it to day 2 in court I'll be amazed.

    Here's the deal though -- since SCO is bringing the case against IBM they will have to disclose ALL relevant information on the case to IBM. And presumably to the public, unless they somehow get the record sealed (and SCO does not have the political might that AT&T had in the AT&T/Berkeley case). The claimant is not allowed to spring surprises on the defendant in the US court system -- the defendant, being presumed innocent, is privy to all the claims being brought against them as well as all evidence to support those claims. The same is not true in reverse -- IBM can bring out evidence to counter SCO without SCO's lawyers having ever seen it before (this, however, is generally considered bad form and frowned upon not only by the other lawyer, but also the judge -- judges don't like having their time wasted and any such evidence should be shared with the claimant in order to avoid having the case go to trial in the first place).

    IBM may bring a countersuit against SCO, but in order to do so they'd have to show some substantive damages to their business model... not a very easy thing to do, particularly when you're the size that IBM is. It also complicates matters, and if IBM thinks they have a solid case they may not feel the need to bring a countersuit... easier just to shut them down quickly rather than turn an already long and complicated case into an even longer and more complicated case. Countersuits seem to be used most often when neither side has a particularly strong case.

    It seems to me that some of the players in this game have much more knowledge then they admit openly.

    Welcome to reality.

  5. Re:Does anyone out there still use SCO Unix? by packethead · · Score: 5, Informative

    Apprently some still do. A lot of bricks and mortar type companies run their manufacturing systems on Openserver. They are generally low-tech firms to begin with and have no plans to budget for any upgrades, nor should they - for what they do.

    Now. Any company that requires, HA/failover/performance, etc. Needs to *not* be running OpenServer. Netconfig requires a re-link and reboot anytime you breathe on it. THe package manager is this thing called 'custom', which is anything but customizable. SMP? Gigabit Ethernet? Journalized filesystem? I think not! Maybe the Military can use it, considering that Colonel Panic and Major Re-install are part of the core functionality.

    UnixWare is better, but it ain't Solaris.

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  6. Where Darl got his Japanese. by ashitaka · · Score: 4, Informative

    From his bio:

    From 1988 to 1996, he worked at networking leader Novell where he was responsible for growing Novell Japan's growth to more than $100 million in revenue.

    I was in Japan from 1986 to 1996. Novell went absolutely nowhere during that time. Microsoft took over the networking market. I ended up dealing only with Novell U.S. as Novell Japan was absolutely hopeless to work with. Now that I think about it, I seem to recall meeting Darl at a gaijin get-together. Just another expat executive lording over the locals.

    If he knows more Japanese than "o-kane dase" I'll be amazed.

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    If you don't want to repeat the past, stop living in it.