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OSCON Panel: SCO Lawsuit About the Money

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the well-there's-a-shocker dept.

viewstyle writes "Just when you had heard enough, the ongoing controversy about SCO vs. Linux has popped up over at the O'Reilly Open Source Convention (OSCON). According to Eweek's story, the panelists agreed that SCO is targeting companies like IBM in an attempt to raise cash. Most importantly: "if a company is not after money, suing is not the way to go.""

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  1. About money? But by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's all about money? I thought it was about the cool evening wear of the mascot.

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    1. Re:About money? But by RALE007 · · Score: 5, Funny
      whoa whoa whoa, let me get this right? You think this about the money? You my friend, are an idiot! Why SCO obviously has an inherent right to everything on this planet, DARL C. MCBRIDE SAYS SO! We all owe him 3 billion dollars for existing, he says he has solid proof that he will share any day now, that gods creation of the Universe was based of off SCO IP. Infact many parts of our own double helix is a direct copy of secret proprietary code (he just won't tell us which yet). Oh my god, I just figured out the missing link in mans evolution! It was SCO source code injected into human DNA by the evil IBM! Nobel prize, here I come.

      If you mod me -1 flamebait, you my friend, have no sense of humor.

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  2. How is SCO's Lawsuit affecting sales of Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If I were a CIO or CTO debating the TCO of *nix vs. Win2K3 to a CEO, would IBM vs. SCO be the TKO that stops the CEO from approving A/P to pay my PO for RH's LGX?

    FWIW, even if OSS is FAIB, if the DOJ considers *nix IP with a TM, then it basically become's SCO's LIC, meaning our OSS becomes a CSS OS, which would RSTBO.

    AIBO going w/ an ASP that manages our OS? BTA, we might end up w/ a BOFH giving us ZA, which WWAD PMS.

    AFAIK, INMP if SCO wants to be ITM by enforcing its supposed IPR - *nix IP should be PD or GNU, like BSD just on GP, IYKWIM. I keep asking myself in this situation - WWLD?

    Oh, BTW - IITYWIMWYBMAD?

    1. Re:How is SCO's Lawsuit affecting sales of Linux? by wayward_son · · Score: 5, Funny


      If I were a CIO or CTO debating the TCO of *nix vs. Win2K3 to a CEO, would IBM vs. SCO be the TKO that stops the CEO from approving A/P to pay my PO for RH's LGX?

      FWIW, even if OSS is FAIB, if the DOJ considers *nix IP with a TM, then it basically become's SCO's LIC, meaning our OSS becomes a CSS OS, which would RSTBO.

      AIBO going w/ an ASP that manages our OS? BTA, we might end up w/ a BOFH giving us ZA, which WWAD PMS.

      AFAIK, INMP if SCO wants to be ITM by enforcing its supposed IPR - *nix IP should be PD or GNU, like BSD just on GP, IYKWIM. I keep asking myself in this situation - WWLD?

      Oh, BTW - IITYWIMWYBMAD?

      WTF???

  3. SCO Lawsuit About the Money by grennis · · Score: 5, Funny

    In other news, it was discovered that the Earth is round and fire is hot. Film at 11.

    1. Re:SCO Lawsuit About the Money by Bob+McCown · · Score: 5, Funny
      In other news, it was discovered that the Earth is round and fire is hot. Film at 11.

      I thought it was "Cellophane factory burns. No film at 11!"

  4. Umm.. by grub · · Score: 5, Funny


    You mean Chris Sontag isn't serious about wanting Linux to grow and prosper? That greedy son of a bitch!

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  5. It's just a consequence of a natural process by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When an animal dies its sphincter loosens up and a smelly mess is created. Ditto SCO.

  6. You missed the opportunity by Pac · · Score: 5, Funny

    And there is one reason for profit corporations exist-- to make money. This is a surprise why?

    The real quote would be: And there is one reason for Courts to exist-- to help corporations make money. This is a surprise why?

  7. Ransom Love's Linuxworld 2000 Keynote Speech by NZheretic · · Score: 5, Informative
    The SCO Group is currently suing IBM for breach of contract for apparently putting Unixware/Monterey "technology" in Linux. SCO/Caldera's complaint depends critically on certain historical and technical assertions which are materially false and (apparently quite intentionally) misleading.

    The SCO group, and both Old SCO and Caldera before it, directly acknowledged and assisted IBM with the scalablity of Linux

    In August 2000, just days after Caldera purchased the Old SCO server division, the then CEO of Caldera, Ransom Love, made a keynote speech at LinuxWorld 2000. A RealPlayer video stream of the event can be found at DrDobbs Journal's Technetcast

    In the question and answer session at the end of the keynote, Love was asked about the possible conflict over Monterey and Linux IA-64

    A mp3 capture of the following transcribed portion

    Q: What happens about Project Monterey, because that conflicts with the AI-64 Linux, 64-bit Linux?

    Love: OK. I don't -- if we do our job right in making Linux scale over like UnixWare to the degree that everybody, that we know we can... May I ask, some people have said, "Well, people have tried this in the past, but they haven't been that successful," may I suggest: we don't have any ulterior motives for not making it successful. Technologically has not been the reason why it hasn't done it before. There's always some other motive, right? And so to talk about Monterey, clearly we want to make sure we have the same level of Linux integration on Monterey that we would have in our Unixware product. Now, we don't control, I mean, we have a great relationship... it's a joint development relationship with IBM which we intend to preserve ... but they have similar interests and so this is really a very synergistic, uh, this transaction is great for all of the major partners as they have already wanted to embrace Linux moving forward.

    Now, let me address one other aspect of your question, which is that the Monterey Project is in conflict with the IA-64 Linux Project. I don't believe it's in conflict at all. Now, clearly, we have tremendous vested interest in the IA-64 Linux Project and with the acquisition of SCO, they've been doing a lot, so you combine those, and we've got one of the more comprehensive offerings, I believe, on the IA-64 Linux. So that's clearly an area that we're very committed to. But like Unixware, there's elements of the Monterey kernel that are more scalable, OK? Now, on the IA-64 platform, I don't know how long of window that is, but today, it's a little bit more robust and more scalable than the IA-64 Linux is today. Now, I'm not saying that over time that won't change.

    But, and let me address one other thing. Sorry, (laughs) you're getting all of it through one question. But clearly we are going to add components back to the Linux kernel on both IA-32 and IA-64 platforms. We'll work with Linus and everyone in order to make that available. That will take some time. And as I mentioned earlier, I don't know that over time you can have a single kernel -- in fact I know you can't -- that will scale, you know, the breadth of IT technology needs. So I think we're looking, in the Linux community, at having multiple kernels, so...

    Q: Multiple Linux kernels? Or multiple UNIX kernels?

    Love: Multiple Linux kernels as well, over time.

    Q: Thank you.

    Love: You bet.

    I am not a lawyer, but even I can see that The SCO Group has put itself into an intractable situation, any judge will listen to evidence from the above and laugh the SCO group out of court.

    It's about time to reexamine the recent claims of The SCO group and call in the lawyers and maybe the authorities

  8. Third reason: sock puppet license fees by mec · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Those are the classical two reasons to sue. SCO has developed an innovative third reason.

    Look at SCO's revenue and income for the past quarter. They recorded $13 million from sales of products and services and $8 million from SCO Source. SCO Source has two customers: one is Microsoft, and the other is an unnamed large Unix company (I think it's likely to be Sun).

    On the income side, SCO lost money on products and services, but made up for it by making money from SCO Source.

    SCO has found a way to monetize anti-Linux FUD. This is not just a sideline. It's the only profitable activity The SCO Group has ever had in its corporate existence.

    SCO doesn't need to win the lawsuit. They just need throw enough FUD so that Microsoft keeps cutting them checks. I think it's important that open source people understand this business model.

  9. GNU Beach by Dr.+Mojura · · Score: 5, Funny
    The Free Software Foundation has never sued anyone who was in beach of the GNU General Public License (GPL) as it simply wants them to come into compliance with the license.
    I have never heard of this beach before. Where can I find it? Is it a GNUde beach?
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  10. Sun seems to be making alot of money too. by Gaetano · · Score: 5, Informative

    According to this they not only are the 2nd licensee from SCO but they also received a warrent to buy 210,000 shares of SCOX at 1.83 per share!

    http://news.com.com/2100-1016_3-1024633.html?tag =f d_top

    Bastards.

  11. It's all about the money by jjp5421 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Step 1. Run company into ground
    Step 2. File frivolous lawsuits that enrage the entire computing community (even mac users).
    Step 3. ...
    Step 4. Profit!