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Gaming Site Reviews.. Real Life?

jbp8 writes: "There's an article on GameSpot reviewing the ultimate MMOG - real life!" The article gives real life an Editor's Choice award, focusing on issues such as leveling up ("Typically, a character will learn of the numerous viable career paths available by undergoing schooling. This can be a long and tedious process, equivalent to the sort of 'level treadmill' monotony that characterizes almost all MMORPGs") and player death ("..a serious issue in real life, and cause for continued debate among players, who often direct unanswerable questions on the subject to the game's developers.")

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  1. Real Life is not a very fun game. by HanzoSan · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Real life is about hard work, its about survival, its about solving problems, its about paying your bills on time, taking care of responsiblities, doing things you dont want to do because they must be done.

    That is real life, it certain isnt a game,and its not fun. If I had a choice I'd choose to live in some of these game worlds over this one.

    Oh, and you only get one chance, so real life is stressful as hell. Failure is not an option.

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    1. Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. by gotr00t · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Then why do over 6 billion people still play it then? I'm not implying anything, but given the choice of staying in this not very fun game or ending it, the vast majority of people would say that they still want to stay.

      Is this because most people are skeptical about what happens after they quit the game or because they're enjoying it too much? Even though it isn't "very fun"?

      I think I speak for many of us when I say: "Life is good."

    2. Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. by cyroth · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The subgames are alot more fun. I have been playing Real Life for a while now, and one of the only reasons I got a JOB (legitimate way of making money in the game) was to have greater access to these subgames.

    3. Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. by antis0c · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Oh, and you only get one chance, so real life is stressful as hell. Failure is not an option.

      Specifically you only get one chance? You know this how? Lots of religions belive in re-encarnation, which many embody the meaning of more chances. A lot of religions believe not only in re-encarnation but rather as a means to have a second chance at life, to do what you are suppose to do. If you succeed in doing what you are suppose to do, then you go to your religions "heaven".

      I try never to speak in absolutes, so I highly doubt anyone has continued to re-encarnate and remember their previous life fully. Thats the difference between the real world and a game world. Sure you can die in both, but only in the game world can you learn from your mistakes and apply them to your second new life. Even if re-encarnation is true, its a clean slate and you don't remember what happened before.

      Of course socieity in a way fills this gap through historical records allowing you to study others mistakes and learn from them. Thats what allows our race to grow through the centuries as opposed to doing the same thing, every generation, over and over like the rest of the animal kingdom. No other animal on earth can record and aggregate experiences like humans and continue to pass it down. I'm often saddened when I think of the Dark Ages, roughly 500 years of technological evolution halting with our own will. Had the Dark Ages never occured, we'd more than likely living in a world very much like that of Star Trek or various other Science Fiction stories. 500 years is a lot of time, over 10 generations.. Imagine 10 generations ago, then apply Moores law and fast forward another 10 generations.

      That has to be by far something I wish was possible, and who knows, where-ever I go when I die I may be able to see mankind evolve in the future. Watching from above somewhere. Then again, its a very real possiblity that when I die, that's it. There's no soul, no spirit, nothing that continues on. My existance is merely the sum of all the cells in my body and an electrical current that runs through it, my only purpose on this earth to procreate and then die.

      Scary thought.

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    4. Re:Real Life is not a very fun game. by Steeltoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It doesnt change the fact that no matter if you live in a jungle or in a cubical its hard work, and its not fun.

      "Hard" work makes you less lazy. Being lazy, laying on a couch, watching TV all day, eating grapes, is not "fun" either. Doing only "fun" things, will make them boring. There needs to be a balance. Consider this: If you were never bored, how would you know you just had fun? An opposite CANNOT exist without the other.

      Then again, work is what you make it. The more you resist it, the less fun you will get out of it. Not because the work itself is bad, but because YOU RESIST!! You are being fooled by your own feelings. The work in itself is not bad, just as the icecream is not happiness itself. The thought of eating an icecream, makes happiness rise in you. It's already in you, you don't really need the icecream.. With the right attitude and knowledge, any work can become positive and rewarding. If not, maybe it's time to change?

      I recommend yoga, auyrveda, meditation or just a good walk in the woods. You'll get a new perspective on life.

      Life is what you make it. It may sound cliche, but that's because people just say it, they don't live it. Then the words mean nothing and are lifeless. Live it and see for yourself.

  2. Can an actual MMORPG simulate real life? by indros13 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    To some extent, I wonder if an article like this is long overdue to point out to some players that online games are not, in fact, real life. On the other hand, think about this:

    For many players of games (my roommate included), online gaming is pretty much their entire life. I recently calculated that my roommate has played Everquest for 5 hours a day (on average) for the past two years.

    Since he has virtually no social life, never has people over, and doesn't belong to any organization outside of work, one could assume that he is incredibly lonely, yet he doesn't seem so.

    To what extent can an online game substitute for real human interaction? To borrow an idea from the Sims, can an almost entirely online social experience fill up the Social Meter?

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  3. Yeah? On what planet does this game take place? by release7 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The only problem is you're relegated to playing as a human character, though the game does randomly choose one of several different races for you (which have little bearing on gameplay and mostly just affect appearances and your standing with certain factions).

    Sounds like this game reviewer hasn't explored this game enough.

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  4. Forgot the most rewarding feature: Sex! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Sex is fun. Reproduction is rewarding. Of course, most gamers know little/nothing about either, so it doesn't surprise me that they skipped it.

    Seriously, as a maried parent (yes, I still game occasionally), I like this part of 'real life' the best. My five year old son just wandered in and asked me what 'random' meant. I'll make a gamer out of him yet... But at any rate, it does have chores associated with it. Time to stop posting AC on slashdot and go read the kids a story...

  5. Re:The admins by Daverd · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A cool thing about Real Life that's unlike other MMORPGs is that often times they'll accept in-game currency to resolve problems like that.

  6. I've been building a business... by vudufixit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And the weird part is how much I feel like I'm living in a business simulation. I invest in some things (equipment, advertising), make some profits, which I can allocate to whatever I want, including more adversiting, equipment, etc.
    Abstracting life like a game can actually be helpful, since trying to distill the "rules" and come up with ways to cheat them, circumvent them or efficiently obey them can be a fun and rewarding challenge.

  7. It *is* real human interaction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "To what extent can an online game substitute for real human interaction?"

    The majority of the time you are interacting with real human beings. What else would we be interacting with: dogs, apes, squirrels?

    When people come accross someone who can find enjoyment in life without the hassles of looks, body weight, body fluids, the horrible effects of aging, they are jealous.

    These are all things that normal people worry about, and when they don't understand how a gamer can be so happy in life and not worry about these things, they have to find something wrong with that person; they have to call them a gimp or a failure, a freak and a loser.

    Online human interaction can be more fulfilling than "real world" human interaction, if it is done in a structured environment with interesting tasks and many solutions.

    And no, it isn't only more fulfilling for those who are "socially inept". It is more fulfilling for anyone; where what matters is your intellect and your creativity.

    When you say that a gamer is "socially inept", what you are saying is that they are poor at playing the game you want them to play; they may not even want to play it. Yet, you taunt and jeer them because you can not understand why they are so happy.

    What are they so happy? They have every reason to be very very happy, and these are good reasons. They are successful at what they want to do. They have many aquaintences who they go on grand adventures with. Now only this, but they are able to give so greatly to others. You can make someone's day -- a real human being -- by your "in game" actions. You can make them smile; you can make them feel loved; love in the sense of brothers and sisters; the love of a companion: male or female does not matter.

    And it is not a false sense of love. It is love that is as real as the love of your mother and your father for you, and you for your brother and your sister and your fellow man and fellow woman. It is love between real people, and it really matters. It is real.

    Yes, if a gamer has obligations to a spouse or children, or to paying the bills, then it is wrong for the gamer to ignore these obligations, or to treat them with disdain. These are obligations, the results of choices you have made, and you must live with them.

    But for those of us who are not yet so obligated, there is no reason why we should bind ourselves to this dying and decrepit world. There is no reason why we should be what society wants us to be, or what the people who are hip and fashionable and popular want us to be.

    When we can interact with real human beings and when we care about others as brothers and sisters, and treat them with the love and respect that they are due simply in virtue of being persons, we do a great thing.

    No one can take this away from us. No one can tell us that what we do does not matter, or is not real.

    No, we may not be helping to eliminate hunger in Africa by playing this game, but what the fuck have you done to eliminate hunger in Africa? You haven't done a damned thing.

    I can make someone's day. I treat others with the utmost respect. I can make them happy. I can make them laugh. I can make them feel loved. I can make them feel worthwhile. I can comfort them when they are down. I can help them up when they are in bad times. And they do these things for me.

    This is what matters; helping real people, and helping them in tangible, real ways.

    Yes, criticize me for not giving money to staving children in Africa, but first, tell me, just tell me, is what you have done in this world so much greater than what I have done? Have you comforted and inspired so many people? Have you loved them as human beings? What the fuck have you done for Africa? You do what you do for yourself.

    It is as real as anything else in this world; the perceptions are as real; the emotions are as real. The people are real.

    Why won't you let us be happy? We give you our bodies for 40 hours a week. What won't you let us live?

    For the love of God, why won't you let us LIVE?

  8. Re:Yeah? On what planet does this game take place? by HeghmoH · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and mostly just affect appearances and your standing with certain factions

    Obviously the reviewer knows of the negative social effects of race, that's what "standing with certain factions" refers to.

    By gameplay, he means the game mechanics; how the game works excluding social interactions. And race has little bearing on those. Differences are there, but most of the time they aren't very noticeable.

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  9. Re:I agree. by canadian_right · · Score: 5, Insightful
    If you are rich enough to be posting on slashdot, you should have the resources to do all sorts of non-boring things. For example, here are things I have/do that Kings did not only a thousand years ago:

    • fresh fruit all year (all sorts, yum yum)
    • central heating / air conditioning
    • cold drinks (refrigeration)
    • effective medecine
    • expect my children to survive to adulthood
    • music all the time (kings did have live muscians)
    • Movies, videos
    • lots of books
    • cruise ships
    • jets planes
    • public transportation
    • cars
    • radio (TV sucks - cancel your cable and spend the time playing more real life)
    Even with a crappy job you have it good. Is anyone actively trying to kill you? Are you in danger of starving to death? If not, stop whinning and get out and do something!

    Life is as intersting as you care to make it. Get off your butt and do something.

    A few things I do, to make life more interesting:

    • Draw and paint (acrylic, easy to clean up, dries fast)
    • Learing piano (I really suck so far)
    • Programming (did a commercial video game years ago, do it for work, and dabble with directX)
    • tutoring (math and programming). Teaching is very rewarding.
    • floor hockey
    • roller blading
    • swimming
    • hiking
    • parenting
    • picnics (I don't actually ever go camping)
    • Writing, short stories, letters to the editor, book reviews (I have collected a few rejection notices for my short fiction. You can too.)
    • Passive spectator (movies, concerts, etc...)

    Most people have to work, but that still leaves lots of time to pursue many intersting real life intersts.
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  10. Actually, he's being sarcastic, not trolling. by Kelmenson · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The parent is the troll. Read it again:
    ( which have little bearing on gameplay and mostly just affect appearances and your standing with certain factions)
    You see, the emphasis on "bearing on gameplay" implies that your character is different based on which race you are. So when the AC responds "ie blacks are better at sports.. asians math.." he is describing exactly what Release7 is saying. You see, having a "bearing on gameplay" would mean that your character would perform differently based on what race it was.

    Racism falls under "your standing with certain factions," which the article clearly references. It is saying that your race does not affect your characters abilities, but it will affect other people's attitudes towards you. Which sounds like a pretty apt, non-trolly, non-racist viewpoint.

    "Try being more subtle"? I think he was already too subtle for you...

  11. Please tell me you're kidding. by Tidal+Flame · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've always hated Gamespot for their biased reviews, but this is just... beyond words. Transcendant, almost. Someone give me a good, hard kick if I ever visit that site again.