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Office Surveillance: Locating And Tracking 802.11b

securitas writes "The NY Times recently ran an article about locating and tracking users of 802.11b WiFi networks in three dimensions using triangulation (Google) with multiple base stations. The goal is to create context-aware networks that can allocate bandwidth and provide location-based services such as uploading relevant information to a PDA. The article can be seen in a new light when coupled with the growth in workplace surveillance of employees by corporate executives (Google / short version at IHT) and the associated practical, ethical and legal problems. Interlink Networks 802.11 wireless detection and tracking white paper (PDF)." (This seems as good a place as any to mention Kensington's handheld 802.11 detector; they claim it to be the only such device on the market today. This is the cheapest detector I've seen; have the others all disappeared?)

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  1. Cheapest tracking? Echelon!! by jkrise · · Score: 2, Funny

    I thought that was obvious??

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  2. Hmmm... by Kai_MH · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think Radio Detectors work fairly well, too, but they don't tell you whether it's 802.11x or not, so I guess that is pretty good.

  3. Kensington WiFi detector by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Features and Benefits

    The only WiFi detector on the market today

    Completely hassle free -- no more booting up your notebook to find a WiFi signal

    Instantly detects WiFi networks with the press of a button

    Three lights indicate signal strength


    Messrs Kensington, could you make a version that

    1) doesn't require me to push a button to detect WiFi networks (i.e. works continuously)
    2) has a connector for an external antenna and an optional car lighter plug to power it
    3) has a 4th led to indicate if the network uses encryption or not ?

    I believe such a device would sell very much better. Thank you.

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    1. Re:Kensington WiFi detector by pv2b · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And an LCD display showing ESSID's...

    2. Re:Kensington WiFi detector by JamesP · · Score: 5, Funny

      I have another couple of requirements too:

      1) doesn't require a computer to access web pages
      2) has lots of internal memory and automatically download all my MP3
      3) Connects to slashdot and checks any new articles
      4) if it's encrypted, automatically tries to infiltrate itselt
      5) costs less than $10

      thank you...

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  4. Heh by bazik · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do I see Google links in that article? ;)

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  5. How well does this work in indoor environments? by pv2b · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The signal gets weaker as it passes through walls. Therefore, the signal strength can not be easilly be correlated to a distance from the base station for purposes of triangulation.

    Triangulation traditionally relies on measuring distance through signal strengths and so is limited to an outdoor environment, where the signal loss per kilometer can be predicted with much greater accuracy than in an indoor environment.

    The article is short on technical details -- did they somehow also enter a 3D-model of how the building weakens radio signals, and use that in order to create three 3D-shapes at the point of intersection the transmitter can be located? Just like traditional triangulation, but with weirder shapes than simple spheres...

    Perhaps a better way would be to use "ping" to check the travel times, rather than the signal strength, compensating for any delays imposed by TCP/IP-stacks and hardware etc. Is this even possible, or is the Signal/Noise ratio just too low?

    1. Re:How well does this work in indoor environments? by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 4, Informative

      Triangulation traditionally relies on measuring distance through signal strengths and so is limited to an outdoor environment, where the signal loss per kilometer can be predicted with much greater accuracy than in an indoor environment.

      Where did you get that ?

      Triangulation works by being in 2 or 3 different locations, determining what direction the signal comes from with a directional antenna at each location, then drawing the lines on a map and see where they intersect. It'a called triangulation because it draws a triangle on the map. It has nothing to do with signal stength.

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    2. Re:How well does this work in indoor environments? by pv2b · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Then the slashdot article is also wrong.

      There is no way for the base station to know what direction the signal is coming from, since the antenna is omnidirectional, so I assumed it was using SNR's.

      I was under impression that the word triangulation could be used for both techniques, both using directional antennas, and by determining the distance to the receiver from several points and checking where circles intersect.

    3. Re:How well does this work in indoor environments? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Almost.

      TRIangulation works exactly as you say (except the tri means 3 measurements only). Multiangulation uses >3 measurements in the same way.

      When you have ranges (i.e. distances as derived from signal attenuation), it's called lateration. Trilateration == 3 ranges. Multilateration == >3 ranges.

      However, triangulation is commonly used when lateration is meant, just because people are more familiar with the term.

    4. Re:How well does this work in indoor environments? by tim.kerby · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Not always. It can work on direction or signal strength or combination of the two (especially in terms of radio aerials). For instance, lets say we are in open land with omnidirectional aerials. Direction cannot be known so we plot strength (equating approximate distance) on a graph. Where the circles overlap gives us an approximate position. This can be done with other aerial shapes and in three dimensions by working out the signal in every aera on the map. Imagine it as three circles with a gradient pattern strongest in the centre. The starting strength at the receiver determines where on the gradient we start and it gets lighter the further out by the law dealing with signal strength (such as the inverse square law). The darkest points on the map indicate potential locations.

      Given direction only, we draw three lines from our APs. Where they cross is the predicted location

    5. Re:How well does this work in indoor environments? by mlush · · Score: 2, Interesting
      There is no way for the base station to know what direction the signal is coming from, since the antenna is omnidirectional, so I assumed it was using SNR's.

      It would be possible to create a directional antenna using a tetrahedron of omnidirectionals and measuring the signal delay between them, I don't know if thats what they did though

    6. Re:How well does this work in indoor environments? by forged · · Score: 3, Interesting
      It has nothing to do with signal stength.

      Actually, it has everything to do with signal strength. I believe that the poster of the comment to which you responded to, meant that indoors you can't just assume that the signal strength will diminish on a more or less linear scale (or whatever) with distance.

      Take into account the thickness and materials of the floors and walls, the office furniture, the people inside packed lecture rooms, and you will understand what he meant. You cannot just assume that because signal from base station A is twice as strong as signal from base station B, that user is closer to B. It may be that there is some obstacle on the path to A weakening the signal, making it look loke user is several meters apart the triangulated position assumed from the signal strength alone.

      Ideally the calculations should be done based on knowlege of how well Wifi signals transmits through various indoors obstacles, and with a detailed map of the premices. But I can't think of anyone in their right mind who would want to do that unless they had considerable resources.

  6. Simpler solution by stefanvt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the article they mention the use of this in a hospital to push patient information to a handheld the doctor is carrying when doing rounds.

    Instead of triangulating (requiring more power) wouldn't it be simpler and possibly quicker to outfit each bed with e.g. a rfid tag?

    This seems an overly complex solution to a, relatively, simple problem.

    The rfid would also be a plus when the patient is being transfered in his bed (from his room to the or)

    1. Re:Simpler solution by mashx · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yup, agreed, then the doctor/surgeon/nurse just needs to read the patient code, and retrieve the info from the server. Wherever they are.

      But rather than the bed, why not just put it in the wrist tag that most patients wear now? Then you wouldn't get any mix ups in the nursery, or any problems when patients go walkabout.

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    2. Re:Simpler solution by espo812 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Wouldn't it be simpler and possibly easier to outfit each patient with an RFID tag? I mean - that way there would be no confusion if a patient switched beds. The hospital could track all patient information in a database keyed on this tag. Then when nurses/doctors/security walk up they can easily scan and get all the relevant personal information.

      Even better is that the hospital could then sell this information to preferred buisness partners (such as Wal Mart). This will allow the hopsital an alternative source of revenue, and thus your hospital stay would be cheaper (it's the economy stupid.) And the next time you walk into a Wal Mart or some other affiliate store with a pharmacy, they can start filling your perscription so by the time you get to the pharmacist he can greet you by name and hand you your pills. This would virtually eliminate botched perscriptions and be good for the environment (no need for the doc to sign dead tree for a script.)

      Isn't technology great?

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    3. Re:Simpler solution by Mr.+No+Skills · · Score: 2, Interesting

      There is a whole market niche in medicine for location tracking, which includes beds, patients, and equipment. If seen products based on RF, and the RFID things are just starting to influence these products.

      I've also seen products based on IR, where there are sensors along the ceilings and the IR transmitters are on the tops of devices to be tracked.

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      One vendor's explanation here

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  7. Re:-1 MORON by pv2b · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A troll? Or just someone thinking too fast? Either way I'll bite.

    They provide any information you put in it. You could conceivably put an RFID tag on the hospital bed that said "I AM BED NUMBER 37" and the RFID receiver would get this information and know where it was.

  8. Pretty stupid approach by dg1kjd · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is a pretty stupid approach from the communications theory point of view. 802.11b frames contain a pretty long preamble in front of the packet header and data payload. This preamble (basically 11-bit barker sequences convolved with a prn-sequence) have excellent autocorrelation characteristics since they must be used for time and frequency syncronization at the RX station.
    By cross correlating the received signal with the (known) barker sequence at all three base stations precision would be increased drastically as it would be possible to measure the actual time lag (->way) the signal took to the receiver.

    1. Re:Pretty stupid approach by pv2b · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Moderate parent up.

      At risk of being moderated as redundant here, I'll just attempt to clarify this.

      Finding positions through time measurements is much more practical in a wireless solution than using directional antennas, mostly since you don't want to get the packet loss incurred by using a rotating directional antenna, although it might look cool. :-)

      Signal/Noise ratio measurements, that the people mentioned in the article is doing, is problematic becuase the unpredictable nature of radio wave signal weakening (I don't know the technical term), although they seem to have tackled that problem to some degree of accuracy.

      However, the speed of light is constant never mind how weakened the signal is, making it an excellent way to determine distance from the base station. This is in essence what GPS does, and also why it needs to carry along precise atomic clocks.

  9. Slightly OT, but here's a nice OSS tool... by pen · · Score: 5, Informative

    AirTrafis a 100% passive packet sniffing tool for the wireless 802.11b networks. It captures and tracks all wireless activity in the coverage area, decodes packets, and maintains acquired information associated by access points, as well as detected individual wireless nodes. It dynamically detects any access points in the area, finds association between wireless clients and access points, and builds information table for each packet that is transmitted via the air. AirTraf is able to maintain packet count, byte information, related bandwidth, as well as signal strength of nodes.

  10. Not that new... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Positioning in office environments using WLAN really isn't that new. Microsoft did it in 2000 with the RADAR system (http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/bahl00radar.html), and loads of people have tried since.

    There are two approaches to it:

    1. Use signal strength to estimate range and then multilaterate. This usually does a poor job because you can't match distance reliably to signal strength because of wall attenuation etc. Also, most WLAN systems quantize the signal strength into a few bins. :-(

    2. Pattern recognition. Have a calibration phase where you put the device in lots of positions around the office, measuring the signal strengths to various stations. Record all this. Then try to match what you're seeing to this database of strengths to localise yourself. Problem is, the radio environment changes VERY easily, so you need lots of points in calibration. Plus, if the environment changes, so do the signal strengths!

    The best I've seen for a WLAN system achieved accuracy to about 2 metres. That used quite a few WLAN dase stations, too. And they had a fair error on that too - enough that you wouldn't be able to guarantee which office you're in...

    Location indoors is a tricky business. It's an active research area. The best so far is based on ultrasonics (the Bat system at (www.uk.research.att.com/bat). UWB looks good too (www.ubisense.net).

  11. This has been around for a while by Jarit99 · · Score: 5, Informative

    The same discussion seems to be popping up every 6 months or so. Check out what companies such as Ekahau and BlueSoft are offering.

  12. other wifi finder dissapeared... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    there used to be idetect, from www.idetect.co.sg.
    based in singapore, i mailed them for prices, but they only had a product samples available, no real production was going on. now their site is down, have they dissapeared? their wifi finder was featured in wired magazine a few months back.

  13. Real life example by alanjstr · · Score: 4, Informative

    This article on Computerworld talks about tracking down unauthorized access points.

  14. The other detectors by AndroidCat · · Score: 5, Funny
    This is the cheapest detector I've seen; have the others all disappeared?

    They were tracked and located.

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  15. Erricsson does the same with GSM by Peer · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Erricsson MPS allows for location aware services on GSM phones. I've seen a demo from a WAP (hehehe) site that showed your location on a map, but that was a few years ago. I haven't seen anything after that.

    ERRICSSON'S MOBILE POSITIONING SYSTEM (MPS)

    The Ericsson mobile positioning system (MPS) (to be delivered to the Taiwanese company) is a server based solution that allows positioning services to be introduced into any GSM network that has Ericsson switching systems. The system will work with any GSM standard radio network and all existing GSM phones. At the heart of the Ericsson MPS is the mobile location centre (MLC), a system that allows user applications to access position information for GSM phones. An application programming interface (API) will be available to allow the development of custom applications. The MLC also handles access security and protects subscriber privacy by allowing GSM users to choose whether or not their phones and other devices are tracked.

  16. Could this stop war-driving? by KrunZ · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Could this be used to stop war-driving, by not letting anybody in that hadn't the right 2d/3d position (eg: inside the company)?
    It would probably not stop sniffing, but possibly it could prevent a break-in?

  17. = a new security method? by huntz0r · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It occurs to me that this system could seal a major hole in the concept of wireless security. As we all know, the biggest problem with trying to lock down a wireless network is that it's basically just a radio broadcast and anyone within range can easily tap into the signal (whether they can get anywhere from there is another matter, but theoretically it's always possible to crack through software guards). But if the triangulation worked well enough, then a system could be set up to, say, detect if a client is sitting on the ground in the alley next to the building, and if so shut off the connection to that client. Or it could be used to limit wireless access to only clients in certain offices or floors - no access for random people in the lobby, for instance.

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    1. Re:= a new security method? by RevMike · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I was thinking the same thing, but with a public twist...

      It is my opinion, which I know many share, that public hotspots are cheap enough that many businesses will soon provide free access as a loss leader. A potential problem is, however, that without a fee based subscription, there is substantial risk that free-loaders will use the internet access without using the services of the business.

      As an example, I live withing 500 feet of a Starbucks. I have clear line-of-sight from my roof. With an appropriate antenna I can use the hotspot to tie my home network to the internet. The only thing stopping me now is that Starbucks charges $30 a month - and my cable modem is $50 a month - not enough savings for the trouble. But if Starbucks started offering it for free...

      A system like this, implemented inexpensively, would allow the hotspot provider to insure that only people in their establishment could use the service.

      Did anyone else read the subject and interpret ":=" as the PL/SQL assignment operator?

  18. This is awesome! by capt.Hij · · Score: 3, Funny

    With this in place I just have to set up my laptop so that the network card turns on and off at the right times, and my boss can just sit in his office with that smug look thinking that I'm working my tail off while I'm sitting in the star bucks with my laptop working away.... Oh kr4p. Does Kensington sell an 802.11b emitter?

  19. Great... by deman1985 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now my boss can track me down to the bathroom if I keep my PDA with me

  20. Prices and usefulness by v1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Following the links, Kensington doesn't list an MSRP or sell it directly, but the other links indicated the "going rate" for the toy is $22.00, and I think that's well within budget for a computer toy.

    It could really use an external antenna though. If it had this, (or if the unit itself exhibited some amount of directional reception?) then it would be much more useful to find the actual location (down to say, which building on the storefront) the hotspot was at. The closer bench gets the better connectivity!

    Maybe someone will post a hack shortly that shows how to jurry-rig an antenna port on the little bugger. I'd also like to "me too" a previous post that suggested an external power connection. Just keep the puppy sitting on your dash whilst driving around town until the green lights start climbing up.

    Was anyone able to spot where these could be bought at? (this really looks like something ThinkGeek would carry)

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    1. Re:Prices and usefulness by naner42 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Best Buy carries them, but it seems like they may be selling quickly. They should be back in the computer department with all of the cheesy laptop accessories (ie. USB fans, lights, etc.). My local store had several but I've heard complaints that other stores sell out quickly.

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  21. Re:"On the Market Today" by naner42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I bought mine yesterday at the local Best Buy and they had at least a dozen. There's probably not a huge demand for this in Indiana though...
    The thing doesn't work all that well. You press the button, then for two minutes it scans. I was 10 feet away from my WAP and it didn't show a signal. 8 feet: full signal, 12 feet: full signal - all within line-of-sight. It's a fun toy for $30, but It'd not a very practical/reliable tool.
    Although it is fun to walk around downtown holding this little credit-card looking thing and acting like you're searching for radioactive emmisions... People get nervous when you point it at them and yell "Ah ha! It's YOU!" especially when it's right in front of a Borders book store and it's lit up like a Christmas tree.

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  22. I haven't seen this referenced... by Bagheera · · Score: 4, Interesting

    One pertinant thing I noted in the article was the following:

    As part of that work, Dr. Junglas modified a Wi-Fi network that operated in the business school's two buildings so that each of its many base stations had a radius of about 15 feet.

    Emphasis mine. This is an insanely dense network of AP's! At over $100 a pop for a cheap one, it seems wildly impractical to simply use stock access points with software corelation to figure out where people are - assuming such density is required.

    In a commercial deployment, AP's are going to be deployed in such a way as to give good coverage without costing too damn much. ie: as few AP's as will give adequate coverage for the site.

    There are other solutions, of course. Using a phased array antenna (sorry, no cool rotating dish) to get a direction and using signal strength to approximate range (random attenuation in the site will have a large affect on accuracy) or using multiple antennas in fixed locations to triangulate a source location (the more vectors you can get, the more accurate your fix will be) Using signal timing between different AP's (time difference between arriving signals) is plausible, but would add considerably to the cost (current AP's aren't equipped with ultra accurate clocks and transmission times over the network aren't accurate enough for the purpose.)

    Phased arrays for direction finding use precise measurements between antenna elements to get their accuracy. They effectively use a harmonic tone to determing the shift angle between antennas, and thus the relative direction to the source. Accurately placing and orienting the AP's would be vital.

    Locating wireless source points isn't exceptionally hard, and could be rather useful. But accuracy costs. Existing AP's would give limited accuracy, so this study used lots of them. More acurate location capability on an AP would cost more.

    Take your pick.

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  23. Surveillance in the workplace? by el_cabong · · Score: 2

    I'm just as whiney as the next guy about Big Brother, but businesses monitoring their facilities for 802.11 traffic is not about Big Brother, it is about network security. What use is hardening your wired network if someone can put a $99.00 wireless access point on your network and open a gaping hole in your security. For this reason it seems prudent network security to monitor for these "rogue" wireless access points. We use a product called AirMagnet, which is an iPaq based, packet sniffer developed by the guy who developed NetXray (now known as Sniffer) to periodically survey the facilities for these rogue access points. We've have added a 4db gain directional antenna to really hone in on these access points. Another advantage of this product is that we can use it to ensure that our legitimate wireless access points are configured securely. It would be nice to have a distributed system to perform these surveys automagically, but the solutions I have seen (including AirMagnet's) are a bit cost prohibitive. Most people wouldn't consider packet sniffing, intrusion detection, and other wired network monitoring as "workplace surveillance", so why rail against 802.11 sniffing as another example of Big Brother's "workplace surveillance"? What you call surveillance in this example, I call basic network security.

  24. Travel times is much better, but... by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The signal gets weaker as it passes through walls. Therefore, the signal strength can not be easilly be correlated to a distance [...]

    Perhaps a better way would be to use "ping" to check the travel times, rather than the signal strength, compensating for any delays imposed by TCP/IP-stacks and hardware etc. Is this even possible?


    It's possible. But IMHO indoors the variability of the response time of the processor to the message will probably introduce far too much jitter for the result to be useful. Finding the right neighborhood, or even the right house, yes. Finding the right desk, no.

    But I understand that some of the underlying net-discovery and scheduling protocols (where the cards are talking directly to each other and picking times to transmit) give you a much better measurement of transit time, which may be good enough for the purpose.

    Perhaps someone with more intimate knowlege can fill us in.

    = = = = =

    Given a good measure of transit time, two base stations can construct a hyperboloid on which the mobile is located. (With uncertainty it's actually the space between two hyperboloids.) Add a third and you intersect two hyperboloids, giving you a curved line. Add a fourth and you've got it located to a single point (or two points if all four bases are in the same plane).

    It's basically GPS or LORAN run backward (with an extra base station relative to LORAN to give you altitude, since you don't know you're "on the ocean's surface").

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