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OpenOffice.org Resource Kit

Eater writes "With a 1.1 release imminent, this review may be of interest to users of Linux on the desktop. OpenOffice.org is a group of small projects that collectively make up the open source community's premier office suite. Based on code from Sun's StarOffice and maintained by a worldwide community of developers, the OpenOffice.org project provides a full-featured office application suite. It includes a language independent API and open XML-based file formats." Read on for the rest of Eater's review. OpenOffice.org Resource Kit author Solveig Haugland, Floyd Jones pages 1040 publisher Prentice-Hall PTR rating 9 reviewer Eater ISBN 0131407457 summary An essential introduction to OpenOffice.org.

With a stable 1.0 release and spectacular cross-platform functionality, it's finally time to seriously consider putting this software to work in your company. Whether you are completely new to OpenOffice.org or just moving from its predecessor StarOffice, you'll want to take a look at OpenOffice.org 1.0 Resource Kit from Prentice Hall PTR.

The "kit" consists of a well written tutorial book and a companion CD-ROM. The book's authors (Solveig Haughland and Floyd Jones) are salty veterans in the technical training field, and it shows in the quality of the text. The CD contains the OpenOffice.org release itself, as one might expect. It provides builds for every supported platform, to include the Mac OS X developer alpha version. At the time this review was written, two minor upgrades have been made available since my book's CD-ROM was pressed. These are, naturally, available for free via the OpenOffice.org web-site. In addition to the releases, the CD includes templates, macros, and examples from the developer community. The authors provide additional templates and resources at http://www.getopenoffice.org

The first five chapters of the book are devoted to basic issues such as installation, migrating existing data, printer issues, and global setup tips. Special guidance is given to users switching over from StarOffice, or even that Redmond company's office suite. Speaking of that company, OpenOffice.org is superb at converting Word, Excel, and PowerPoint files into its own open formats. The book shows how to use the handy "AutoPilot", which can perform batch conversions of your existing data for use with OpenOffice.org's equivalent applications. Originals are kept safely intact-- AutoPilot produces converted copies. This could make a large office transition much easier, if not completely seamless.

The next six chapters cover the creation of written documents in fantastic detail. The organization of this section is quite intuitive; you'll easily learn how to create a simple letter. When you're ready to write your memoirs, you won't need to buy another book--it's all there: complex formatting options, page layout functionality, object manipulation, linking cross-references, and indexing. And don't forget office goodies like mail merges, label printing, and business cards.

Chapters 13-17 focus entirely on web-page development. Serious web designers may find this section bordering on useless, but the casual user will be able to create a home page without learning a single tag of HTML.

The next several chapters deal with Calc (a spreadsheet program), Impress (for creating presentations), and Draw ("the best drawing program you've never used," say the authors). The layout of each section follows the comprehensive example from the earlier chapters detailing OpenOffice.org's word processor, Writer. Basic topics are organized neatly along with the more advanced ones, and neither seem to get in the way of the other. Both the novice and the expert will find very little lacking from this material.

Organizations who deal frequently with databases will not be disappointed with OpenOffice.org, either. The final three chapters of the book explain how to incorporate data from any flavor database you're likely to be using in your network. Throw in an appendix on macros, and you've got one very complete tutorial masquerading as an all-in-one reference. I'm very picky when it comes to my geek shelf space, and this one gets high marks in all the important areas: comprehensive, well organized, and with a great signal-to-noise ratio.

We have learned that superior open source software alone isn't always enough to supplant the existing closed source way of doing things. However, "document it, and they will come!" The OpenOffice.org 1.0 Resource Kit will go a long way toward fulfilling that prophecy.

Reader Marcus Green sent in a review of this book as well. Here are some of his thoughts:
In addition to the document management features the book covers the more "Page Layout" style features of StarOffice such as the ability to manage columns and to place vertical text running up the page. These are features I was not even aware existed in StarOffice before I read this book.

The StarOffice companion has over 1030 pages, but it is really bigger than it sounds because it is very dense. Although it has many screen shots, plenty of use is made of text based instructions. Instead of repeating instructions, the text will often point you to the page where a concept was first explained. This does break up the flow of instructions but it also means that the book contains more information than if they had repeated the text every time it was needed.

I found the section on the graphics module useful because I had not realised how StarOffice has some slightly non-standard ways of working with menus and selections. For example I spent quite a bit of time trying to get the 3d shapes menu to pop out and show all the possible shape options. It was only on a closer reading of the text of this book did I appreciate that you need to click and hold down the mouse for a few seconds before the menu pops out.

The tone of the book comes across as being created by people who like the program rather than a creation of a faceless corporation. Thus in the graphics section they have included the amusing Moose with moving fly graphic that is used for the logo of the JavaRanch website. Here is an example of the text style from the section on macros. "Macros can do things like open a file when you do a particular task, process data, or take your grandmothers' credit cards and buy $3000 worth of cat toys." It also features a section titled "Turning Off Annoying Features," which of course is about the autoformatting and word completion.

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  1. Too early? by Transient0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    With release 1.1 on the way, wouldn't it make sense to wait until after that release to buy a book about it?

    I wouldn't want to miss out on all the yummy 1.1 goodies and it sounds like it will be a pretty significant change.

    1. Re:Too early? by javamutt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I've had quite a bit of experience on the StarOffice side of things (which may as well be OO)... I think that while some things have changed signifcantly, the basic religion is similar enough that you culd still benefit from the book. For a lot of people brought up on MS Office, there are some new ways of ding things in OO/SO that having a book could help with. Especially page/paragraph/section/character styles. If you do complex technical writing, a bok culd definitely help make the transition.

  2. Setup by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'd be happy with soem simple tips on scripting a setup so that "open file" points by default to a user's network drive and so that the display and toolbars are uniform within our firm. I do not relish setting up a dozen computers to make the settings match.

    Basically, scripts or config tools would be cool.

  3. Whatever happened to REXX? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Back in the days, the Amiga had AREXX & OS/2 had REXX. These were for scripting ANY compatable application.

    Why don't we have these nowadays?!?!?!?

    Then we wouldn't need entire books like this, and could get better functionality from all our programs...

    1. Re:Whatever happened to REXX? by Zestius · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I don't know, but on the Mac you have AppleScript, which works great for scripting any Mac application. You can even create your own standalone applications using AppleScript and AppleScript Studio (free with Apple's dev tools).

      So maybe it's time to change platforms? ;) Especially now that OpenOffice is coming to MacOS X. It will undoubtedly support AppleScript as well (heck, it probably does already).

    2. Re:Whatever happened to REXX? by ReelOddeeo · · Score: 2, Informative

      If you want to program OOo, you need to learn UNO.

      On Windows, you can program OOo from any application that works with automation. (i.e. Visual Basic, Delphi, MS Visual FoxPro, etc.)

      OOo can be programmed from any language for which a complete UNO bridge has been written. Recently Python was just added as a first-class language.

      AppleScript could have an UNO bridge written for it. (Perhaps as a scripting extension. You know what I'm talking about if you are a Mac user.) But AppleScript's typical syntax way of scripting applications is definitely NOT how you will work with OOo. It involves a lot of method calls and objects.

      Perhaps a scripting extension could be written that accepts AppleEvents, and therefore within AppleScript uses a syntax more conventional for AppleScript users. But such a thing would be completely outside of OOo proper. As a Mac user who has moved to Linux, I wouldn't care much. But there may be someone who would have the motivation to build such a thing.

      See this for examples of the dabbling I have done for OOo in three languages: StarBasic, Java and MS Visual FoxPro. The link takes you to a directory where you can download Danny's Draw Power Tools. (Click "parent directory" to find other things. But especially the Turtle Graphics tutorial for OOo.)

      My favorite of the Draw Power Tools is Flower Gears. I had a lot of fun writing it. What is it? It is like a certian toy whose name I won't mention that you might have had as a child. A plastic ring has gear teeth on its inside. A smaller wheel with gear teeth rides along the inside of the ring. You put a ball point pen through a hole in the smaller inner wheel and create drawings that can resemble a flower. This tool lets you enter the parameters (such as number of gear teeth) and then creates an OOo Drawing of the figure.

      --

      Those who would give up liberty in exchange for security and DRM should switch to Microsoft Palladium!
  4. Here we go again. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Heres all the possible trolls, rolled up into one mod point.

    1) OpenOffice is slow
    2) No font config support
    3) Ugly paper clip clone (the lightbulb)
    4) Uses a non standard printer library
    5) Won't work on my 386SX running Slackware 1.0
    6) I don't wan't to start a holy war here, but my linux box is taking 20 minutes to.....
    7) join the GNAA
    8) Mirror
    9) Openoffice has no footnote support
    10) My Mom says linux dosen't have any decent solitare games
    11) ???
    12) -12, troll.

    1. Re:Here we go again. by po8 · · Score: 2, Informative

      2) No font config support

      I know you were just funning, but folks may want to know that the OOo and fontconfig developers are working together, and fontconfig support is likely to appear shortly. This would be a Good Thing: many of my remaining problems with OOo are font-related.

  5. Re:What's sad... by Trigun · · Score: 3, Insightful

    A bunch of coders release an entire office package, yet can't get an import routine to work properly. That must be entirely their fault.

  6. Leave Norm out of this... by djupedal · · Score: 5, Funny

    Are you kidding?

    MS Word doesn't import MS Word documents properly...

    1. Re:Leave Norm out of this... by cduffy · · Score: 2, Informative

      There is absolutely no issue importing Word documents written on other machines.

      There *are* issues importing Word documents written with other versions of Word, though.

  7. Re:What's sad... by nobody69 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    luugi -

    What problems have you had with opening MS Word docs? I've been using OO.o for a while, using myself as a test subject to see if we could replace all/some of our MS Office suites with something comparable. I haven't noticed any problems, but I'd like to hear what other people have issues with.

    --
    "Bugger this, I want a better world." - Jenny Sparks
  8. Slightly OT, but related to OpenOffice: by aussersterne · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While we're on the subject of StarOffice/OpenOffice, I'm going to post a question about it here because Slashdotters are more likely to be able to anwer than those kids over at the OO forums.

    OpenOffice is able to inherit and use the toolkit/widget colors that I select in Linux/KDE. i.e. if my widgets are all brown in other apps, they are also brown in OpenOffice. However, when I am using WindowMaker or another simple managed environment rather than KDE, OpenOffice comes up in Windows NT gray and I can't seem to change that.

    I've done an "xrdb -all -edit myrsrcs.txt" from within KDE to grab all the krdb stuff and then an "xrdb myrsrcs.txt" from within WindowMaker, but that didn't help. All of my GTK/GTK2 apps look the way I want them to at this point because my .gtkrc and .gtkrc-2.0 files and relateds are all configured correctly for my color preferences... but OO doesn't seem to see these either (I haven't checked to see if OO is a GTK app at all).

    I even tried "kfmclient file:/opt/OpenOffice.org/progrms/swriter" to see if I could get the KDE colors into OO that way without actually having to be logged in to KDE, but it didn't help.

    Does anyone know how to change the widget colors in OpenOffice without having to simply log into KDE or GNOME?

    P.S. final hint: using the Tools menu is not the right answer, it contains color options for a great many things, but the menu and toolbar widgets are not among them.

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    STOP . AMERICA . NOW
  9. Re:OS X uses beware!! by JLyle · · Score: 3, Funny
    ... it's like Hank Brooks said in classic "The Mythical Man Month"...
    That would be Fred Brooks. Maybe his friends call him Hank, though.
  10. Upgrade by HogGeek · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Do they mention a manner in which to upgrade an installation vs. re-install?

  11. Re:What's sad... by jason0000042 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    is that it simply doesn't import MS Word documents properly. MS Word is the still the norm wether you like it or not.

    So we have two choices to what we can do.

    1. Give up.
    2. Support OOo whenever possible. By contributing, donating, or just using it when ever it makes sense for the project.

    I'm not much of a defeatist, so I'm going with option 2.

    Besides, it imports simple word docs fine. And really, Word is a word processor, not a page layout program. If you really want to do some fancy stuff neither word nor OOo are good. Go get pagemaker or quark.

    --
    i don't like my old sig.
  12. OpenOffice writer is not ready by Swayne+Shabazz · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The more I use it (on both Linux and Windows) the more bugs and crashes I see. Granted, the more you use any particular application the more bugs you'll see - but OpenOffice Writer is the only application that I use that always seems to suprise me with an amazing crash or wild bug every single time I use it. Take for instance what happened about 5 minutes ago - when printing a document the window resized itself wildly, crashed, and the system locked up.

    It needs some real work.

    1. Re:OpenOffice writer is not ready by ebuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Please respond to the OpenOffice team with your problems. Often they are already fixed, and updating your installation is all you need. However, you cannot expect them to fix something you never tell them about.

      I like open source software. I like how it works. I like how I work when I'm using it. But using open source software is a bit of a social contract. Either pay back the developers with bug reports, or it shouldn't be important enough to complain about (to anyone).

      Sometimes the bugs won't get fixed. Now THATS when you should REALLY complain!

  13. Re:What's sad... by ebuck · · Score: 2, Funny

    I don't think it's sad. After all, I have a secret light socket which I've been developing without the use of standards committees.

    If you wish to gain access to this light socket, you need to give me the electrical cord of the appliance of your choice, and I will route it through the 2x2x2 iron safe that protects my newly created intellectual property. If you throw tons of cash at me, I might allow you to look at the plug directly, but only on the condition that I can prevent you from telling anyone else about it (and I'm going to change it completely next year too!)

    Of course, my plug's tolerances are incredible, so if you attempt to access it incorrectly, your lamps may flicker or totally self destruct. But hey, that's your problem! You should have paid me to use the "secret" plug which I won't show you.

    I imagine that my competitors will have a fully working substitute interface in about 30 years. But I've still got the upper hand, hehehe.... See I've made the plug not work properly, so they'll actually have to include ALL of the BUGS for "full functionality"!

  14. Re:What's sad... by mopslik · · Score: 2, Informative

    Sounds more like a Linux-vs-Windows font issue to me. If you're running OO.o on a Linux box, are you positive you're using the same true-type fonts that Office is using?

  15. One of Kraft's better-kept secrets by Mr.+Bad+Example · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...salty veterans...

    Worst snack food ever.

  16. 1.1 is faster; better Word import; speedy spreadsh by squashed · · Score: 5, Informative
    In a revolution compared to 1.0, the new 1.1 OpenOffice RC apps open almost instantaneously, offer much improved Word import, and process some of my day-to-day recursive spreadsheets about 10x faster than before.

    Don't judge OpenOffice besed on 1.0.

  17. We use this book by rindeee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    for our OpenOffice.org training classes and it is quite good. The customers/students have really given posotive feedback about it not only as a classroom textbook, but also as a reference for ongoing use. For what it's worth.

    ER

  18. Re:Hey this is great! by Hard_Code · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And even if you don't...does anybody EVER read documentation on something as boring as an office suite? If it isn't intuitive, it should be fixed to begin with.

    --

    It's 10 PM. Do you know if you're un-American?
  19. Re:What's sad... by Darth+Hubris · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Also Printing an imported MS Word document never looks the same way as printing an original MS Word document.


    I used to work for Kinko's way back when, and companies would send us documents created in Word 97, We'd open them in Word 97, and I'll be damned if Word couldn't format the stupid thing correctly. Bottom line is that people have been joking about MS Word not opening MS Word documents correctly, and they're not joking.

    My experience with OO is that it will open a good 95% of what MS Office docs I throw at it. Haven't tried pivot tables or Docs with TOC's yet, though.
    --
    The party's over ... the drink ... and the luck ... ran out
  20. Some solutions. by pmsr · · Score: 5, Informative
    For those that complain about documents not looking the same in OO as in Microsoft Word because of the fonts, please think out of the box and consider that you don't have the exact same fonts available. The same happens with Microsoft Word if someone uses a special font you dont have in your system. Complaining about this is like complaining that water is wet or fire burns. I mean, isn't it obvious? You are replacing software, not a stinking china tea set. Now, having vented my anger, please look at

    http://avi.alkalay.net/software/msfonts/

    for a solution. Hint, just get Microsoft fontpack.

    One more thing, Microsoft supplies free viewers for Word, Excel and Powerpoint. They even run inside Wine. Google for them. I run OO with Windows 2000 and have these viewers installed, plus the fonts. What can i say? It works.

    /Pedro

    1. Re:Some solutions. by HermanAB · · Score: 2, Insightful

      At last, a post by somebody with a clue!

      --
      Oh well, what the hell...
    2. Re:Some solutions. by pmsr · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Yes, to tell you the truth I have tried it now for the first time, and it does work. I tend to prefer to open the document directly, though.

      /Pedro

  21. OS X Final is out...CD and review out of date. by soullessbastard · · Score: 4, Informative
    Mac OS X (X11) 1.0.3 Final has been out for three weeks now, and it's been out of alpha since last October. If the review is correct and the CD contains the alpha version, I think the book is just a tad out of date.

    If you're looking to get OpenOffice.org for the Mac, you should get the GM from the official download site and not use what's on the CD with this book. As the "GM" implies, there were lots of bugs fixed between the "Final Beta" and "GM", and definitely lots of serious issues were fixed since the alpha.

    If you're on another platform, you should probably check the version on the CD as well. Even though it's now being called a "legacy build", the latest stable version is 1.0.3.1 which fixes nasty printing errors in 1.0.3 on other platforms (didn't happen on the Mac! woo hoo!). The "RC" in 1.1 RC stands for "Release Candidate", so if you're thinking of going the whole way to 1.1 you may want to wait until the RC is dropped from the name.

    I guess, in short, don't buy this book just to get OpenOffice.org on a CD since you'll probably have to download a newer version anyway.

    1. Re:OS X Final is out...CD and review out of date. by ebuck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering that it usually takes months to get a book on the shelves after the last word was written, I hope we can excuse the inclusion of old software and old reference to "upcoming items" which have already been released.

      Remember, there's marketing, proofreading, typesetting, printing, binding, warehousing,
      distribution, and shelving which all have to be done before you invest your time and money by buying it and reading it. Technology continually speeds up some of these steps, but it will never be automatic. It's just the price you pay for a printed book.

      The web can provide you with the latest info, distro, whatever; however, it is a rare website which pours as much effort into one of its articles as a good author / editor / publisher is willing to put into a book.

  22. Re:What's sad... by fermion · · Score: 5, Insightful
    The fact that everyone wants to deny is that MS changes Word formats so often that, out of the box, Word itself has trouble opening up older or cross-platform formats. This has always been the case.

    For instance, the version that was realized around the time of Windows 3.11 did not by default install the filters needed to load Word files from many other versions of word, particularly DOS and Macintosh. Even when the filters were installed, corruption of data was common.

    More recently certain versions and installations of Word 2000 seemed to chew up my Word 95 files. Headers went missing, text was garbles, all sorts of stuff.

    The reality is that MS is so obsessed in keeping monopoly though the closed and convoluted Word format, that they do not seem to care if inter-version file can be moved perfectly. Likewise, they are so obsessed with all user upgrading with every version, they do not seem feel responsible about full support of older formats.

    What we need is a really inclusive formatted text file format. If companies like Sun, IBM, Redhat, and Thinkfree would just get together to come up with something, then there could be a competitive force. RTF just does not seem good enough. At this point MS is no longer selling the tool, but the file format. The competition needs to be on that basis.

    --
    "She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
  23. Table numbering, for example by johannesg · · Score: 2, Informative
    Our company template uses numbered tables, but OO displays numbers that are different from MSO. For example, if there is a table "1" in section "5.1" than in MSO the number is "5.1.1" but in OO it becomes "5.1-5.1.1" which is rather ugly.

    In the table of contents, there is a bit of space between the section number and title in MSO, but OO concatenates the number and title, which also looks ugly.

    We also spotted an empty chapter 1 before the actual text started, which was not present in the MSO interpretation of the document. This also means all the chapter numbers changed, which we really don't like.

    Finally, in the header the document title suddenly popped up twice whereas MSO just displays it once. There could be a hidden field there that gets displayed anyway by OO, I haven't checked yet.

    Before you ask, I haven't reported any of these problems yet. Don't shoot, they were only discovered yesterday...

    And don't take all this as whining: I am very pleased by the way OO is progressing, and I want to help making it a little better by reporting these errors.

    1. Re:Table numbering, for example by CharterTerminal · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I have spent more years of my life working with Microsoft Word than I care to contemplate at this juncture. I assure you that the problems you're describing are not inherent to porting documents from Word to OO. They're problems which you will see whenever you open a document with a word processing program which is not configured the same as the word processing program which originated the document.

      Most people don't notice this problem because most people never bother to change the default Word configurations. If Mary makes a Word document and sends it to Steve, and they're both using Word's defaults, it will look exactly the same when Steve opens it. However, if Mary then sends her Word document to Bob (who has spent many hours configuring Word to his liking) Bob's instance of Word will "translate" Mary's document into Bob's preferred formatting. Or rather, it will attempt to do so, with varying degrees of success.

      I have personally had to tackle the problem of importing Word documents into Word more times than you can possibly imagine. I've also had to import Open Office documents into Open Office. The problem isn't that "Word sucks" or "Open Office sucks." The problem is that both programs need to find a way to properly import formatting rules on a per-document basis.

      (Of course, that's easy for me to say, isn't it? I'm not the one trying to program it, am I?)

    2. Re:Table numbering, for example by H310iSe · · Score: 2, Interesting

      God I wish I didn't have to choose between replying and moderating...

      Anyway, the parent is only part of the truth. I can say from extensive experience with Word in a legal environment that yes, in fact Word documents do blow up when opened in Word. Number formatting is a big problem, but really any time you have a document stretching over 100 pages or so you're asking for all sorts of weird problems. Not every one, but maybe 1 in a couple hundred or so. Take a library with several million documents and you realize that's a @#*)! load of *&*)@!# up documents.

      MS intentionally obfuscated and otherwise complicated their binary document format (need I explain why?) and they have suffered almost as much as those trying to interoperate with it. Of course, since the world is locked in to Word it doesn't matter that their anti-competitive-driven technology decisions led to a fucked up product.

      I've tried to sort out deep-seeded Word document problems with high-level (like, the ones you pay millions in support contracts to get to call) MS folks and even they couldn't sort out the document on a binary level. Ghost in the machine is about as far as they could say whenever I called with a completely impossible-but-it's-happening problem. Save document as plain text and reformat is the mantra for anyone working with large Word documents for a living.

      For a small sample of Word-related issues see
      annoyances dot org
      Woody's Office Watch (amazing resource but you have to search through a lot of junk to find it).

      And, just as a foot note, VBA is the most buggy, slow, impossible to use programming language I've ever had the horror to use. I'm not just throwing the Buggy word around either, it's unpredictable, awkward, ass-backwards and slow slow slow.

      Me, I do web development now and use Edit Plus for all my document needs. I'm much, much, much happier now :)

      --
      closed minded is as closed minded does
  24. Here at the office... by r_j_prahad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...we use OpenOffice to repair hopelessly munged-up Microsoft Word documents - which happens more often than anybody is willing to admit. I used to fix all the formatting fubars with WordPerfect but the two products have diverged so much in the last two years that we've discontinued using WordPerfect for anything. Anyway, everytime I get a user who asks me why she can't get her headers and columns to do such-and-such I snarf a copy off his/her server, import it into OO, undo the hideousness (sp?) and export it back out. And it generally stays fixed, even after subsequent exposures to MS Word, plus it's a lot smaller.

    Thanks to Microsoft, OpenOffice looks pretty damned good.

  25. Re:1.1 is faster; better Word import; speedy sprea by Elote · · Score: 2, Informative

    I'm using OpenOffice 1.1 on an optimized gentoo linux installation running on an Athlon XP 1900+ 256MB and 80GB Western Digital special edition harddrive and it still takes about 50 seconds to load for the first time if no quickstarting is used.Even after loading it still feels like a java app with slight delays in menu appearance, although I'm sure whatever parts of OO are written in java have been compiled to native code.In short, performance is STILL a major issue not to mention the UI could use some tweaking ex: icons are flat and not easy to distinguish at a glance, menu items placed in strange places. I have a professor who exports lecture notes to WordXP from Openoffice and images are always placed in the wrong location in his document, sometimes on the wrong page, although he is probably not using 1.1. Don't kid yourself, OO needs some serious work. Hopefully the developers will work to improve on the existing features before adding anything new in the next release.

  26. Boring, Uninformative "Review" by Percy_Blakeney · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Am I the only one who is sick of completely non-critical reviews of books? Many of the book reviews seem to be "this is what the book said," rather than "this is what I thought of the book."

    This review, in particular, almost seems like it was copied straight off of Amazon or something. Some of the quotes seem to come from a marketing firm rather than an independent critic:

    Whether you are completely new to OpenOffice.org or just moving from its predecessor StarOffice, you'll want to take a look at OpenOffice.org 1.0 Resource Kit from Prentice Hall PTR.

    If only there were some sort of meta-moderation for book reviews...

    OpenOffice.org Resource Kit Review (Score: -1, Uninformative)

    1. Re:Boring, Uninformative "Review" by ksw2 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      I typically don't waste time reviewing books I don't like. I suspect most reviewers share this behavior.

  27. Re:1.1 is faster; better Word import; speedy sprea by ca1v1n · · Score: 3, Funny

    50 seconds to load on an Athlon 1900+? Well, there's your problem. I'm using an Athlon 2000+ and it takes me about 4 seconds, again without quickstart. I think you need a faster processor.

  28. Re:1.1 is faster; better Word import; speedy sprea by MarcQuadra · · Score: 3, Informative

    I have a similar (but lower in hardware) setup:

    Athlon 1400
    512MB RAM
    10GB Quantum Fireball IDE HD
    Gentoo Linux "-march=athlon-tbird -O3 -pipe"

    OOo takes about 5 or 6 seconds to load for me. It's a bit laggy if I leave it for a while, but it picks up to speed as I use it. I think that something is wrong with your configuration/setup since mine _should_ be about 20-30% SLOWER than yours and it's 900% faster.

    BTW, my memory usage is about 75MB with OOo loaded, not including cache or buffers.

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  29. Re:What's sad... by Saeger · · Score: 2, Informative
    I have no idea what a CV document is

    A 'CV' is just the snooty name for a résumé, especially if used outside Europe. A lot of people seem to think that using latin somehow gives them a professional highbrow edge.

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  30. Re:What's sad... by styrotech · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A 'CV' is just the snooty name for a résumé, especially if used outside Europe. A lot of people seem to think that using latin somehow gives them a professional highbrow edge.

    or....

    What's a résumé? Something to do with resuming a career?

    It's the pretentious french name for CV, especially in the US.

    In NZ, CV is the common name - hell most people probably don't realise it's short for some latin stuff.