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New Red Hat Linux Beta: Severn
JofCoRe writes "Just got a message from the redhat watch list today, announcing the availability of a new beta, called "Severn". Some snippets from the announcement:
What's its development status?
"It doesn't seem too horrendously in flux. Difficult at this
moment to make a specific diagnosis."
Among other things, SEVERN has: a new graphical boot, GCC 3.3, an updated 2.4.21 kernel, updated Evolution and Mozilla,
More information about the beta can be found at rhl.redhat.com. And the Release notes are found here. Looks like they have it currently labeled as v9.0.93." Update: 07/21 15:11 GMT by H : It's 3.2.3 GCC, not 3.3, as I had above.
I didn't see anything in the notes about this (sorry if I missed it) but is this a GTK2 version? This is the last GTK1 app that I'm still using, and I'd love to upgrade if a GTK2 version is included in this install.
Curmudgeon Gamer: Not happy
I see that they removed Galeon. How does Epiphany stack up to it right now?
I also like the option of a graphical boot... soothes the nerves of less-knowledgable people who will wonder why X, Y, or Z service is coming up.
Hopefully they'll add some more graphical configuration stuff for the system. I've always liked their style with it.
-Erwos
Plausible conjecture should not be misrepresented as proof positive.
Since the promising 2.6 is alredy in a test phase, I would wait a couple of week to avoid the infamous module-related issues to upgrade a 2.4 kernel.
Is it possible to have 2.6.x (or even 2.5.75) as an option for the installation? Of course I woluld like it.
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According to distrowatch, this release still has OpenOffice.org 1.0.2
Wasn't the purpose of having 2 products (commercial and community) to offer the latest and greatest software? I hope Red Hat will include OOo 1.1 in the next beta.
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Anyone know why it's called Severn?
Just finished reading Hyperion and I was wondering if there might be a link with "Joseph Severn".
Yes, should work just fine both ways
/proc, or use a program called chstk to enable executable stacks for specific programs. It's not included in this beta, but you can grab it from
One issue that might affect some people is the exec-shield anti-stack overflow technology, which
most notably doesn't play will with wine and alsalib (latter might be fixed nowadays, alsalib used to use a gcc feature that made it place code on the stack).
You can easily disable it through
here
lilo is deprecated, not removed. This means it is still there, but will probably be removed in the future.
Personally, I think this is bad. I've run into situations where GRUB just couldn't handle the configurations I needed to do. And changing hardware on GRUB can sometimes force one to a boot disk where it shouldn't be necessary.
Now pine IS on the removed list, ACK!! Guess it's time to pick a new mailer, but man, a decade old habit is hard to break.
Anything is possible given time and money.
RH9.0, nVidia .bin driver installer, it was foolproof and easy. A tainted kernel was a small price to pay, IMHO.
Oh, and a suggestion: Don't try running your system at default runlevel 5 when messing with the video. Use runlevel 3 and startx.
It was a joke! When you give me that look it was a joke.
It's not your BIOS, it's most likely the AGP on your mobo. There was a bunch of work on the nVIDIA related AGP code in the post 2.4.20 kernel series, particularly 2.4.22. Depending on your mobo and kernel patches RH applied to 2.4.20, this could explain your problems. The 2.4.21 series in general hasn't been anything to brag about -but- stability is getting much better again as of 2.4.22-pre3 (haven't tried pre7 yet). You may want to try 2.4.22-pre7 to see if it solves the lockup issues for you.
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Have they added the ability to alter the Gnome menus in a fashion that does not require binary editing the inodes with a needle?
I have RH8 at home, and the there seems to be a decided lack of any way to add items to the menu structure.
There also seems to be no easy way to get a snapshot of the desktop or of an app window.
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RedHat has an odd way of naming releases; the way I understand it is that each consecutive pair of release names has something in common, but (see here) for a good explanation). So for instance, "Pinstripe" followed "Zoot" (both kinds of suits), and "Guiness" followed "Pinstripe" (both British beers). So the last one was "Shrike" and this one is "Severn" which previous posters have noted are both characters in the "Hyperion" novels. Maybe the next one will be a river or a UFC guy.
From the changelog:
With this release, the Red Hat Linux product is becoming the Red Hat Linux Project -- an openly-developed project designed by Red Hat, open for general participation, led by a meritocracy, following a set of project objectives.
Looks like the old setup of 2 boxed sets (personal and professional) is going, as is the x.0, x.1, x.2 release cycle. This means they can break binary compatibility with each release. Also means that despite the fact that RH officially stops supporting this relase afer 1 year, package maintainers will be responsible for their own bug-fixes, not RH. Check out the article on The Register for more info. Looking at the package list, it looks too bleeding edge (Apache 2.045, PHP 4.32) for server use. If you want to keep with Apache 1.3x, then your only choice is RHES. Goodbye RedHat, it was good while it lasted.
hm, boost seems to be there... hopefully things like gtkmm will start making their way in so c++ developers don't need to download half-of-the-world before they can start coding...
soup++
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It's also still rife with bugs, eg. the toolbar does not work correctly using the "text beside icons" setting in GNOME.
Furthermore, it's been dumbed down to a point where it is below the level of complexity most casual web users want - excluding the confusing bookmark functionality. If you like using tabs, Epiphany has made a wreck of them. The options for opening new links in tabs, etc. have all been removed.
Frankly, I don't think they know WTF they're doing...
I invite anyone who knows more about Epiphany than me to correct anything that is factually incorrect.
Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
Just a guess, but ALSA is sponsored by SuSE. RH tends to not like using things sponsored by other companies (Reiser, ALSA, etc).
That'd be my guess.
while planetccrma might take you an hour or two to install and configure, its AWSOME... i love it. once its up and running its so much slicker than windows or macos for keeping your audio environment up to date.
bascially planetccrma is a multimedia distro on top of redhat (7.3, 8.0 or 9.0). it gives you a new kernel with alsa and the low latency + preemptive patches built in. plus it uses Apt-Rpm so installing and updating all those constantly developing linux audio apps is dead simple.
nando, the guy who puts it all together is really friendly and usually answers any install questions or program requests within a day.
I'm a total convert and this is actually letting move away from windows for my main audio performace OS.
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