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New Red Hat Linux Beta: Severn
JofCoRe writes "Just got a message from the redhat watch list today, announcing the availability of a new beta, called "Severn". Some snippets from the announcement:
What's its development status?
"It doesn't seem too horrendously in flux. Difficult at this
moment to make a specific diagnosis."
Among other things, SEVERN has: a new graphical boot, GCC 3.3, an updated 2.4.21 kernel, updated Evolution and Mozilla,
More information about the beta can be found at rhl.redhat.com. And the Release notes are found here. Looks like they have it currently labeled as v9.0.93." Update: 07/21 15:11 GMT by H : It's 3.2.3 GCC, not 3.3, as I had above.
http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/
Just the Binary ISOs
From the release notes, it seems Severn uses GCC 3.2.3, not 3.3.
thanx to an AC a few posts down:
http://torrent.dulug.duke.edu/
And more specifically:
severn-i386-disc1.iso.torrent
severn-i386-disc2.iso.torrent
severn-i386-disc3.iso.torrent
orAll severn Binary isos in one torrent directory
Theres torrent linx to the SRPMS there too.
Thanx AC!
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The RH9 beta was also called 8.0.93 as this is 9.0.93
Standard release practice, we won't know if it's a 9.1 or 10 until they release it =)
Also they went RH8 to RH9 with no point release because there binary breakage in the packages (major system changes) which made lots of RH8 packages incompatable with the latest release
"Some things have to be believed to be seen." - Ralph Hodgson
Lilo is removed from the packages *shrug*
Removal of lprng and sndconfig might cause a few grumbles but otherwise nothing remarkable here.
Yes, it's GTK2--ironically Gimp is one of the last GTK1 users!
I'll guess it's from Dam Simmons' Hyperion cantos.
9 was named "Shrike". This beta is "Severn". Both are characters from Hyperion.
In Hyperion, Joseph Severn was a cybrid reconstruction of the deceased 19th-century poet John Keats.
At the end of the release notes is this gem:
The Red Hat Linux 9.0.93 kernel now includes support for laptop mode. When placed in laptop mode, the kernel batches disk I/O, allowing the disk drive to become idle long enough for the drive's power-saving features to take affect. This can result in significant increases in battery runtime.
Considering I used to do most of my development while on batteries, this is great! (Gotta love the dell 7000 with its 7 hour batteries!)
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http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/
These files are also setup as an apt repository if you read the readme.txt file.
Not sure if they will work with the beta.
Someone with the bandwidth to download this might be able to confirm this, but it appears that the beta doesn't come with ALSA. A shame for those of us who like RedHat, but want to use the latest MIDI apps "out of the box".
Chris
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It is a damn confusing name. Eleven wouldn't be much better, so I say skip to twelve.
But when they called it 9 instead of 9.0, I considered it a very bad sign.
/., so why am I surprised?), Redhat increments major version numbers only when there is binary incompatibility. Right now there's no reason not to make this 9.1. If they integrate the 2.6 kernel later on in beta, however, then this will probably need to become Redhat 10.
So when they released "Redhat 7" did you consider it a bad sign then as well? There was no 7.0 -- there was 7, 7.1, 7.2, and 7.3. Any reference to "7.0" was either not following the official Redhat naming scheme or was changed after 7.1 was released.
As has been stated many times before (to no apparent effect... but this is
If you look at the Web page, Red Hat Linux X (Cambridge) will not include 2.6. The first version with 2.6 is Cambridge++.
Crap. The notes page points out several cool new packages (including acpid for power management and the dvd+rw tools for dvd mastering. But several important packages are falling by the wayside.
Among them:
pine (I've just finished, after 8 years or so) getting used to this thing after the migration from elm. Does this mean I finally have to use mutt?
tripwire. I know lots of people didn't actually use this, but it's really important and the fact that redhat integrated it really raised its visibility.
postgresql72. what's going on here? are they running a more recent version and simply removing the old one?
I wonder if a checksummed p2p system like bittorrent will ever be merged with apt.
Never tried it myself, but I did hear that someone was working on setting up a debian apt repository on freenet.
Everything will be taken away from you.
but Mandrake is diverging more and more from the Red Hat model
...
You say that like it's a bad thing to have decent package management software (urpmi[e,i,q,f] and rpmdrake), multiple 3rd-party software "media" available (plf.zarb.org, jpackage.org), a sane library naming convention (so you can happily have two versions of the same library installed), solid community involvement (yes, some contributors who know their stuff maintain packages in the main distribution), and an open development process (the cooker distribution itself, the mailing lists, cvs, wiki).
Actually, with their recent announcement, it seems more like RH is converging on the Mandrake model
Your comments on the bookmarks sytem use to be true, but they now have a bookmarks menu item like other browsers. The bookmarks system still works how it use to, categorize bookmarks into topics. This means each topic will show up as a bookmark folder in your bookmark list, and you can't have it deeper than 1 folder.
There is an option to open links in tabs by default. Which I have turned on and clicking the middle mouse button on links opens them in tabs. Not sure if that is what you wanted.
As far as the total idea of your post, I kind of agree. The epiphany developers seem to be going overboard with the less options is better philosophy. I understand it but when they took out the fine-grained popup blocking options and just replaced it with an "Allow Popups" checkbox I got pretty pissed. I mean what does this mean, will all popups be gone, will unrequested onLoad type of popups be gone? This is important stuff that they thumb their nose at.
I do like the interface better than galeon though. I have learned to love the bookmark system which you bashed. The coolest thing about it is that it is integrated with the URL autocomplete so typing a name of a topic, for example "news" would have the autocomplete choices be your bookmarks in the news topic. Very cool. It also allows you to bookmark GET form results, such as google's search page and replace the important part with a "%s". Once you do this all of your autocomplete results will have that bookmark at the bottom and selecting it will replace what you typed with the %s in the url. Hard to explain, but it's damn easy to use.
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You don't.