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The Impending IP Crisis
Factomatic writes "With the supply of IP addresses expected to run out by 2005 due to the popularity explosion of the Internet and the expectation that everything from your phone to your washing machine will soon have its own IP address, Alex Lightman, CEO of Charmed Technology and chairman of last month's North American IPv6 Global Summit tells the New York Times "we're going to need something like 100 IP addresses for each human being." IPv6 will increase the supply of addresses from 4 billion today to a number in excess of 35 trillion that is "so big that there's not a word for the number," says Cody Christman, director of product engineering for Verio, which offers IPv6 in San Francisco, Washington and elsewhere. The article is a good layman's backgrounder on the looming IP crisis."
Who needs a new word to describe the number of possible addresses? It's just 1/2.9387358770557187699218413430556e+61st of a google.
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To quote the article "Such sensors could allow people to operate devices from anywhere there is an Internet connection." and "Now that the address space is available, the next step is figuring out how to use it."
I've got an idea, a internet connected toilet. "Using a cellphone in Los Angeles", I could flush the toilet at my home remotely and have the toilet seat drop down automatically (you know, to keep domestic tranquility). I could even call the toilet to see if anyone is using it.
I better go patent it...
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IPv6 will increase the supply of addresses from 4 billion today to a number in excess of 35 trillion that is "so big that there's not a word for the number,"
how about "thirty six trillion" ?
I'm kind of hoping to not have any IP addresses in 10 years. I'm becoming rapidly overwhelmed by technology even though I've been a working linux admin for 10+ years.
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I wonder how long it will be before we have a washing machine buffer overflow...
Apartment dwellers below the afflicted system should take precautions now....
Rule #1 -- Politics always trumps technology.
Don't forget the spammers. We can take a few IPs away from them as well.
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IPv6 is only 50% bigger than IPv4.
Someone needs to recheck their figures.
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Oh god! Billion dollar multi-national corporations will have to HIRE NEW PEOPLE to make the changeover! Capitilism is failing, the sky is falling!
-Reid
When I first glanced at the headline, I thought, oh no, not another SCO article! Well, this doesn't sound quite as serious. I, for one, don't WANT my washing machine to have an IP address. I have visions of my underwear getting 0wNeD...
We will run out of IPv9 addresses... http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1606.html
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Hey, if all of China is behind a firewall anyway, that should work. Just give them one public IP and let them put the rest of the nation behind 10.x.x.x and 172.16.x.x.
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Tell me about it, it took me weeks to get my electric bidet back on line after it was 0wn3d.
The number of IP addresses IP6 will allow is truely astronomical, 6.65x10^23 addresses for every square
Heh. Reminds of a REALLY old joke: For a good time call Avogadro 6.022*10^23!
Ha! I kill me! I'll be here all week.
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A possibility of success for SCO would see the resultant world-wide demand for IP addresses drop to a manageable level: Somewhere's about a hundred and seven, or so...
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Maybe your brain is going to start identifying body parts by IP address. If you get a serious neck injury, your brain will start frantically pinging your feet to see if they still respond, stuff like that.
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yeah, and no one will ever need more than 640K of RAM, either.
The things we think of as futuristic always changes by the time that date gets here. "Where's my flying car?" I asked my grandmother what she thought was "futuristic" when she was a kid. She told me that everything would be attached to those scissors things that extend. She and I didn't know what they were called. Back then, some phones would be attached to the wall with this invention, and it was super high tech for the day. Her idea of futuristic was to have everything in the kitchen on this rig. Coffee maker, spice rack, everything.
Now, had they actually made a kitchen with this device, she would have seen how ridiculous it was.
Just because Bill Gates thought the idea of IP addresses assigned to everyone and everything doesn't mean it was a good idea.
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Damn short sighted engineers! Who would have thought we'd have more than 4 billion networked devices over 20 years ago!
Okay, that was a bit of a ramblin' rant, but this really pisses me off. I'm tired of hearing how we're running out of addresses when the simple solution is to stop friggin' using them!
Would the last person to leave the Internet please turn off the routers?
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Uh, this would break a lot of other stuff aswell.
IM file transfers : broke
Video Confrencing: broke
voice over IP: broke
host a game (on xbox live for example): broke
now, i dont know about you but most of the people do one of the above things regually. IM has latley became the killer app of the internet (for the younger people).
This would reduce the internet to one way communication - something that I dont want.
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try:
three hundred forty undecillion, two hundred eighty-two decillion, three hundred sixty-six nonillion, nine hundred twenty octillion, nine hundred thirty-eight septillion, four hundred sixty-three sextillion, four hundred sixty-three quintillion, three hundred seventy-four quadrillion, six hundred seven trillion, four hundred thirty-one billion, seven hundred sixty-eight million, two hundred eleven thousand, four hundred fifty-five.
Pardon me. The ACTUAL number is:
Three hundred forty undecillion two hundred eight-two decillion three hundred sixty-six nonillion nine hundred twenty octillion nine hundred thirty-eight septillion four hundred sixty-three sextillion four hundred sixty-three quintillion three hundred seventy-four quadrillion six hundred seven trillion four hundred thirty-one billion seven hundred sixty-eight million two hundred eleven thousand four hundred fifty-six.
Or just: 340 282 366 920 938 463 463 374 607 431 768 211 456
I could even call the toilet to see if anyone is using it.
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>For example, teleportation might require separate addressing for all possible energy states of all elementary particles in the teleported object.
Doesn't the Heisenberg compensator eleminate the need for particle addressing?
especially peer-to-peer
Really? Huh and all this time I've been grabbing and sharing off of Kazaa on my machine behind a NAT router. Silly me, I must've imagined all that porn I downloaded. Man, do *I* have a sick imagination! :)
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I'm gonna subnet like it's 255.255.255.254.
I can already see the call to tech support..
customer "My web server/P2P/Warez FTP/etc doesn't work now that you changed my account to use a private IP."
Customer: "Why can't I play games online anymore?"
Consider an RTS game such as Starcraft. If you and your friend both have a private IP, you can't play. NAT is not a good solution.
That would be us here at MIT. And you can pry it out of our cold dead hands.
>IPv6 will increase the supply of addresses from 4 billion today to a number in excess of 35 trillion
:)
>that is "so big that there's not a word for the number,"
Said with the same confidence that Gates used when announcing that 640KB memory should be enough for anyone...
Abuse! Abuse!
I mean, this could go on forever:
Poster1(p1): "The word 'theory', in practice, has more meanings than in theory."
Poster2(p2): "Yes but theory and practice are closer in theory than in practice."
p1: "I don't want to read your theory about practice; practise your theories!"
p2: "Bah! Your theory and practice only hold together in theory, not practice."
p1: "What?! Shove this practice into your theory!"
p2: "Oh yeah, theory this!"
p1: "You short, mustachioed, german, national-socialist pig!"
p2: "Godwin's law! Godwin's law!"
etc, etc, etc.
<yawn>
-Tez
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How about an IP address for the RFID chips in your clothing?
That way your socks can tell your washing machine to ask the fridge to remind you to wash them whilst also emailing the NSA about you attending a meeting of [insert-fringe-organisation-currently-in-policial- disfavour-here] and your partner about the visit to the strip club afterwards. And obviously every CD (and CDplayer) will need it's own IP address so the embedded device (running WinCE) can connect back to the RIAA over the secret pervasive wireless network to tell them who's playing what as an antipiracy measure (the customer profiling use to allow them to send you even more junk mail is purely a side effect).
Anything I missed?
Stephen
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